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Welp, Gallup is no longer a source of viable anything, let along survey data:

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  • octothorpe@mastodon.onlineO octothorpe@mastodon.online

    @gbargoud outlook not so good!

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    @octothorpe @gbargoud Isn't that what one of the pilots on the recent moon mission said?

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    • octothorpe@mastodon.onlineO octothorpe@mastodon.online

      Welp, Gallup is no longer a source of viable anything, let along survey data:

      February: Gallup says that due to cost reasons it will no longer do presidential approval polling
      May: Gallup says it is exploring "digital twin" technology that replaces human respondents with AI/LLM-generated answers

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      Gallup Begins Research on Simulated Responses

      Gallup is exploring whether AI-generated agents perform well in predicting people's responses and where they fall short.

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      Gallup.com (news.gallup.com)

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      @octothorpe I expected a venerable polling company at least, unlike the rest of the modern world, to understand the fundamental implications of basic statistical sampling methods on data validity. Alas.

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      • octothorpe@mastodon.onlineO octothorpe@mastodon.online

        Welp, Gallup is no longer a source of viable anything, let along survey data:

        February: Gallup says that due to cost reasons it will no longer do presidential approval polling
        May: Gallup says it is exploring "digital twin" technology that replaces human respondents with AI/LLM-generated answers

        Link Preview Image
        Gallup Begins Research on Simulated Responses

        Gallup is exploring whether AI-generated agents perform well in predicting people's responses and where they fall short.

        favicon

        Gallup.com (news.gallup.com)

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        @octothorpe

        »Gallup says it is exploring "digital twin" technology that replaces human respondents with AI/LLM-generated answers«

        What #Gallup says instead:
        »Simulated responses will not be used to produce Gallup’s published population estimates, and they will not replace direct measurement of people in our tracking research. […] We will always be transparent about our use of simulated responses and will never present them as human responses.«
        From the linked text.

        The critical point is…

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        • stekopf@mstdn.socialS stekopf@mstdn.social

          @octothorpe

          »Gallup says it is exploring "digital twin" technology that replaces human respondents with AI/LLM-generated answers«

          What #Gallup says instead:
          »Simulated responses will not be used to produce Gallup’s published population estimates, and they will not replace direct measurement of people in our tracking research. […] We will always be transparent about our use of simulated responses and will never present them as human responses.«
          From the linked text.

          The critical point is…

          1/2

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          …that they plan to filter research:
          »Simulated approaches may also expand what is practically researchable, enabling organizations to explore attitudinal questions at a scale or speed that would otherwise be prohibitive, to model responses among hard-to-reach populations, or to test how different groups might react to novel stimuli before investing in full-scale data collection. In short, agent banks may help researchers and practitioners anticipate likely outcomes and support decision-making.«

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          • octothorpe@mastodon.onlineO octothorpe@mastodon.online

            Welp, Gallup is no longer a source of viable anything, let along survey data:

            February: Gallup says that due to cost reasons it will no longer do presidential approval polling
            May: Gallup says it is exploring "digital twin" technology that replaces human respondents with AI/LLM-generated answers

            Link Preview Image
            Gallup Begins Research on Simulated Responses

            Gallup is exploring whether AI-generated agents perform well in predicting people's responses and where they fall short.

            favicon

            Gallup.com (news.gallup.com)

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            @octothorpe 🤦‍♀️

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            • octothorpe@mastodon.onlineO This user is from outside of this forum
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              @noodlemaz thanks!

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              • d_rift@beige.partyD d_rift@beige.party

                @octothorpe I expected a venerable polling company at least, unlike the rest of the modern world, to understand the fundamental implications of basic statistical sampling methods on data validity. Alas.

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                @d_rift they have a lot of name recognition but often their methodologies are questionable, allowing the sponsor of the study to kinda numberwang the results they want to promote.

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                • octothorpe@mastodon.onlineO octothorpe@mastodon.online

                  @d_rift they have a lot of name recognition but often their methodologies are questionable, allowing the sponsor of the study to kinda numberwang the results they want to promote.

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                  @octothorpe still; thanks for the heads-up on them moving from numberwang to "no number, all wang" territory.

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