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Welp, Gallup is no longer a source of viable anything, let along survey data:

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  • octothorpe@mastodon.onlineO octothorpe@mastodon.online

    Welp, Gallup is no longer a source of viable anything, let along survey data:

    February: Gallup says that due to cost reasons it will no longer do presidential approval polling
    May: Gallup says it is exploring "digital twin" technology that replaces human respondents with AI/LLM-generated answers

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    Gallup Begins Research on Simulated Responses

    Gallup is exploring whether AI-generated agents perform well in predicting people's responses and where they fall short.

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    mildpeach@mstdn.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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    @octothorpe @JonChevreau This is bad. No matter what we think of AI slop, actual human driven chaos is worse. That is why there is not modeling it…

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    • octothorpe@mastodon.onlineO octothorpe@mastodon.online

      Welp, Gallup is no longer a source of viable anything, let along survey data:

      February: Gallup says that due to cost reasons it will no longer do presidential approval polling
      May: Gallup says it is exploring "digital twin" technology that replaces human respondents with AI/LLM-generated answers

      Link Preview Image
      Gallup Begins Research on Simulated Responses

      Gallup is exploring whether AI-generated agents perform well in predicting people's responses and where they fall short.

      favicon

      Gallup.com (news.gallup.com)

      oliver_schafeld@mastodon.onlineO This user is from outside of this forum
      oliver_schafeld@mastodon.onlineO This user is from outside of this forum
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      #20

      "Due to cost reasons" has gotta be a forward-looking statement translating as "we're afraid to be sued or regulated out of business by you-know-who" if we publish polls about you-know-who.

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      • octothorpe@mastodon.onlineO octothorpe@mastodon.online

        @gbargoud outlook not so good!

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        #21

        @octothorpe @gbargoud Isn't that what one of the pilots on the recent moon mission said?

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        • octothorpe@mastodon.onlineO octothorpe@mastodon.online

          Welp, Gallup is no longer a source of viable anything, let along survey data:

          February: Gallup says that due to cost reasons it will no longer do presidential approval polling
          May: Gallup says it is exploring "digital twin" technology that replaces human respondents with AI/LLM-generated answers

          Link Preview Image
          Gallup Begins Research on Simulated Responses

          Gallup is exploring whether AI-generated agents perform well in predicting people's responses and where they fall short.

          favicon

          Gallup.com (news.gallup.com)

          d_rift@beige.partyD This user is from outside of this forum
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          @octothorpe I expected a venerable polling company at least, unlike the rest of the modern world, to understand the fundamental implications of basic statistical sampling methods on data validity. Alas.

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          • octothorpe@mastodon.onlineO octothorpe@mastodon.online

            Welp, Gallup is no longer a source of viable anything, let along survey data:

            February: Gallup says that due to cost reasons it will no longer do presidential approval polling
            May: Gallup says it is exploring "digital twin" technology that replaces human respondents with AI/LLM-generated answers

            Link Preview Image
            Gallup Begins Research on Simulated Responses

            Gallup is exploring whether AI-generated agents perform well in predicting people's responses and where they fall short.

            favicon

            Gallup.com (news.gallup.com)

            stekopf@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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            #23

            @octothorpe

            »Gallup says it is exploring "digital twin" technology that replaces human respondents with AI/LLM-generated answers«

            What #Gallup says instead:
            »Simulated responses will not be used to produce Gallup’s published population estimates, and they will not replace direct measurement of people in our tracking research. […] We will always be transparent about our use of simulated responses and will never present them as human responses.«
            From the linked text.

            The critical point is…

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            • stekopf@mstdn.socialS stekopf@mstdn.social

              @octothorpe

              »Gallup says it is exploring "digital twin" technology that replaces human respondents with AI/LLM-generated answers«

              What #Gallup says instead:
              »Simulated responses will not be used to produce Gallup’s published population estimates, and they will not replace direct measurement of people in our tracking research. […] We will always be transparent about our use of simulated responses and will never present them as human responses.«
              From the linked text.

              The critical point is…

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              #24

              …that they plan to filter research:
              »Simulated approaches may also expand what is practically researchable, enabling organizations to explore attitudinal questions at a scale or speed that would otherwise be prohibitive, to model responses among hard-to-reach populations, or to test how different groups might react to novel stimuli before investing in full-scale data collection. In short, agent banks may help researchers and practitioners anticipate likely outcomes and support decision-making.«

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              • octothorpe@mastodon.onlineO octothorpe@mastodon.online

                Welp, Gallup is no longer a source of viable anything, let along survey data:

                February: Gallup says that due to cost reasons it will no longer do presidential approval polling
                May: Gallup says it is exploring "digital twin" technology that replaces human respondents with AI/LLM-generated answers

                Link Preview Image
                Gallup Begins Research on Simulated Responses

                Gallup is exploring whether AI-generated agents perform well in predicting people's responses and where they fall short.

                favicon

                Gallup.com (news.gallup.com)

                ariaflame@masto.aiA This user is from outside of this forum
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                #25

                @octothorpe 🤦‍♀️

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                  #26

                  @noodlemaz thanks!

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                  • d_rift@beige.partyD d_rift@beige.party

                    @octothorpe I expected a venerable polling company at least, unlike the rest of the modern world, to understand the fundamental implications of basic statistical sampling methods on data validity. Alas.

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                    #27

                    @d_rift they have a lot of name recognition but often their methodologies are questionable, allowing the sponsor of the study to kinda numberwang the results they want to promote.

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                    • octothorpe@mastodon.onlineO octothorpe@mastodon.online

                      @d_rift they have a lot of name recognition but often their methodologies are questionable, allowing the sponsor of the study to kinda numberwang the results they want to promote.

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                      #28

                      @octothorpe still; thanks for the heads-up on them moving from numberwang to "no number, all wang" territory.

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