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  • sharknserg@plush.cityS sharknserg@plush.city

    Saw this elsewhere, thought it'd be a good to share here

    brunomcgee@newsie.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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    brunomcgee@newsie.social
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    #30

    @sharkNserg I too see the utility - maybe even the evolutionary origins - of small talk. And then there is Norwegian society, where small talk between strangers seems to be anathema lol.

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    • sharknserg@plush.cityS sharknserg@plush.city

      Saw this elsewhere, thought it'd be a good to share here

      vapaad@wandering.shopV This user is from outside of this forum
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      #31

      @sharkNserg people who hate small talk freak me out

      I do not know you why are you trying to talk about something so serious. It's very selfish and no one likes an edgelord.

      Or even worse: if you refuse to talk to strangers your world will be very small and the antithesis of the community based world that needs to come into being.

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      • erik@mastodon.infrageeks.socialE erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social

        @sharkNserg @afewbugs Definitely not wrong. The content of the discussion is pointless, ephemeral and irrelevant, but the action of an agreeable verbal exchange has its own value

        afewbugs@social.coopA This user is from outside of this forum
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        #32

        @erik @sharkNserg I started thinking of it as like when I meet an anxious dog and babble nonsense in a calm tone of voice just to show I'm not scary. The actual words don't matter

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        • sharknserg@plush.cityS sharknserg@plush.city

          Saw this elsewhere, thought it'd be a good to share here

          datn@xoxo.zoneD This user is from outside of this forum
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          #33

          @sharkNserg I've explained small talk to many Germans. (they have their own small talk rituals, but many think they don't and like ragging on the American rituals they see on TV and among tourists.) I have one thing to add to OP's spot-on take:

          small talk is also a status check. if someone lacks spoons for small talk, something else might be up. unfortunately some use that check to gatekeep, but kind souls regard small-talk failure as an occasion to check in with a fellow human. "you ok?"

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          • sharknserg@plush.cityS sharknserg@plush.city

            Saw this elsewhere, thought it'd be a good to share here

            tenderleaves@donphan.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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            #34

            i love this so much. i've never really had an issue with talking small, and this kinda makes me feel less imposter syndromey about participating so much in it.

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            • navi@catcatnya.comN navi@catcatnya.com

              @ide @sharkNserg @Coffee counterpoint: any "anti-social" "psycho" (descriptors that are ableist when used as they are here) can hold smalltalk.

              ide@masto.aiI This user is from outside of this forum
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              #35

              @navi @sharkNserg @Coffee
              Couldn't come up with a succinct descriptor for a-person-you-don't-want-to-associate-with, you could replace it with a "chud" or whatever.
              Point being you get a pretty good read on a person based on how they approach you, interact with you and how they respond to social cues. Doing the whole cumbersome social dance of small talk helps with sussing that out.

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              • ide@masto.aiI ide@masto.ai

                @navi @sharkNserg @Coffee
                Couldn't come up with a succinct descriptor for a-person-you-don't-want-to-associate-with, you could replace it with a "chud" or whatever.
                Point being you get a pretty good read on a person based on how they approach you, interact with you and how they respond to social cues. Doing the whole cumbersome social dance of small talk helps with sussing that out.

                navi@catcatnya.comN This user is from outside of this forum
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                #36

                @ide @sharkNserg @Coffee unfortunately, your assumption sounds to me like the introduction of the double-empathy problem.

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                • navi@catcatnya.comN navi@catcatnya.com

                  @ide @sharkNserg @Coffee unfortunately, your assumption sounds to me like the introduction of the double-empathy problem.

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                  #37

                  @navi @sharkNserg @Coffee
                  Eh, if there's a serious enough compatibility problem at small talk level I don't think most people would see much prospects for a deeper relationship/association, one way or the other.

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                  • ide@masto.aiI ide@masto.ai

                    @navi @sharkNserg @Coffee
                    Eh, if there's a serious enough compatibility problem at small talk level I don't think most people would see much prospects for a deeper relationship/association, one way or the other.

                    navi@catcatnya.comN This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #38

                    @ide @sharkNserg @Coffee this is true, but not for the reason one might think

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                    • sharknserg@plush.cityS sharknserg@plush.city

                      if you dislike small talk: this post isn't to convince you to like it

                      It's only to explain, if you have ever thought "small talk is so pointless and I don't understand why people do it", well, why they do it

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                      #39

                      @sharkNserg

                      Getting canceled on Fedi for my pro-normie urges. This is a trap, isn't it?

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                      • sharknserg@plush.cityS sharknserg@plush.city

                        Saw this elsewhere, thought it'd be a good to share here

                        janneke@todon.nlJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #40

                        @sharkNserg
                        I get checking in and aligning, but why so indirect, and awkwardly empty and shallow?

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                        • sharknserg@plush.cityS sharknserg@plush.city

                          if you dislike small talk: this post isn't to convince you to like it

                          It's only to explain, if you have ever thought "small talk is so pointless and I don't understand why people do it", well, why they do it

                          janneke@todon.nlJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #41

                          @sharkNserg
                          Should have read this disclaimer before replying l, thanks.

                          As small talk usually is an amazing downer for me, it's good to know this.

                          Knowing this, it might be OK to not engage and instead try to do a friendly checkin, possibly by opening up sharing your own state first?

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                          • ide@masto.aiI ide@masto.ai

                            @Coffee @sharkNserg
                            Having an actual social interaction gives a lot more information to both parties. Any anti-social psycho can make cat noises.

                            mo@mastodon.mlM This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #42

                            @ide so any «anti-social psycho» can talk about weather. And?

                            meowing IS a social interaction, too

                            @Coffee @sharkNserg

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                            • ide@masto.aiI ide@masto.ai

                              @Coffee @sharkNserg
                              Having an actual social interaction gives a lot more information to both parties. Any anti-social psycho can make cat noises.

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                              #43

                              @ide@masto.ai @sharkNserg@plush.city @Coffee@toot.cafe antisocial psychos who make cat noises,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ​​​​​​

                              @mo@mastodon.ml

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                              • sharknserg@plush.cityS sharknserg@plush.city

                                Saw this elsewhere, thought it'd be a good to share here

                                beth@weird.autosB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #44

                                @sharkNserg this is how I talk to all the men I deliver parts to despite hating talking to men.

                                Works almost every time B3

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                                • sharknserg@plush.cityS sharknserg@plush.city

                                  Saw this elsewhere, thought it'd be a good to share here

                                  hugo@social.treehouse.systemsH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #45

                                  @sharkNserg our little introduction rituals

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                                  • billiglarper@rollenspiel.socialB billiglarper@rollenspiel.social

                                    @adar @sharkNserg

                                    A not so secret trick to small talk is to ask the other person about themselves with open questions, imho.

                                    People like to talk about the stuff they care about, and just having an active listener makes them feel seen.

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                                    #46

                                    @billiglarper @adar @sharkNserg Any tips for making it sound less like an interrogation?

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                                    • coffee@toot.cafeC coffee@toot.cafe

                                      @sharkNserg Okay, but why can't we just meow at each other? It would make things so much easier...

                                      vesen@chaos.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #47

                                      @Coffee @sharkNserg i think just walking up to someone and meow will work too. 😺

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                                      • sharknserg@plush.cityS sharknserg@plush.city

                                        Saw this elsewhere, thought it'd be a good to share here

                                        petrichorsquirrel@meow.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #48

                                        @sharkNserg when people rail against small talk I'm always left internally asking myself "so, what, like a psychopath or something?"

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                                        • janneke@todon.nlJ janneke@todon.nl

                                          @sharkNserg
                                          Should have read this disclaimer before replying l, thanks.

                                          As small talk usually is an amazing downer for me, it's good to know this.

                                          Knowing this, it might be OK to not engage and instead try to do a friendly checkin, possibly by opening up sharing your own state first?

                                          sharknserg@plush.cityS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #49

                                          @janneke that's reasonable enough!

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