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  • sharknserg@plush.cityS sharknserg@plush.city

    Saw this elsewhere, thought it'd be a good to share here

    janneke@todon.nlJ This user is from outside of this forum
    janneke@todon.nlJ This user is from outside of this forum
    janneke@todon.nl
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    #40

    @sharkNserg
    I get checking in and aligning, but why so indirect, and awkwardly empty and shallow?

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    • sharknserg@plush.cityS sharknserg@plush.city

      if you dislike small talk: this post isn't to convince you to like it

      It's only to explain, if you have ever thought "small talk is so pointless and I don't understand why people do it", well, why they do it

      janneke@todon.nlJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #41

      @sharkNserg
      Should have read this disclaimer before replying l, thanks.

      As small talk usually is an amazing downer for me, it's good to know this.

      Knowing this, it might be OK to not engage and instead try to do a friendly checkin, possibly by opening up sharing your own state first?

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      • ide@masto.aiI ide@masto.ai

        @Coffee @sharkNserg
        Having an actual social interaction gives a lot more information to both parties. Any anti-social psycho can make cat noises.

        mo@mastodon.mlM This user is from outside of this forum
        mo@mastodon.mlM This user is from outside of this forum
        mo@mastodon.ml
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        #42

        @ide so any «anti-social psycho» can talk about weather. And?

        meowing IS a social interaction, too

        @Coffee @sharkNserg

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        • ide@masto.aiI ide@masto.ai

          @Coffee @sharkNserg
          Having an actual social interaction gives a lot more information to both parties. Any anti-social psycho can make cat noises.

          plombirka@mk.ilyamikcoder.comP This user is from outside of this forum
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          plombirka@mk.ilyamikcoder.com
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          #43

          @ide@masto.ai @sharkNserg@plush.city @Coffee@toot.cafe antisocial psychos who make cat noises,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ​​​​​​

          @mo@mastodon.ml

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          • sharknserg@plush.cityS sharknserg@plush.city

            Saw this elsewhere, thought it'd be a good to share here

            beth@weird.autosB This user is from outside of this forum
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            beth@weird.autos
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            #44

            @sharkNserg this is how I talk to all the men I deliver parts to despite hating talking to men.

            Works almost every time B3

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            • sharknserg@plush.cityS sharknserg@plush.city

              Saw this elsewhere, thought it'd be a good to share here

              hugo@social.treehouse.systemsH This user is from outside of this forum
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              hugo@social.treehouse.systems
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              #45

              @sharkNserg our little introduction rituals

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              • billiglarper@rollenspiel.socialB billiglarper@rollenspiel.social

                @adar @sharkNserg

                A not so secret trick to small talk is to ask the other person about themselves with open questions, imho.

                People like to talk about the stuff they care about, and just having an active listener makes them feel seen.

                lornajane@indieweb.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                lornajane@indieweb.social
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                #46

                @billiglarper @adar @sharkNserg Any tips for making it sound less like an interrogation?

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                • coffee@toot.cafeC coffee@toot.cafe

                  @sharkNserg Okay, but why can't we just meow at each other? It would make things so much easier...

                  vesen@chaos.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #47

                  @Coffee @sharkNserg i think just walking up to someone and meow will work too. 😺

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                  • sharknserg@plush.cityS sharknserg@plush.city

                    Saw this elsewhere, thought it'd be a good to share here

                    petrichorsquirrel@meow.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                    petrichorsquirrel@meow.social
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                    #48

                    @sharkNserg when people rail against small talk I'm always left internally asking myself "so, what, like a psychopath or something?"

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                    • janneke@todon.nlJ janneke@todon.nl

                      @sharkNserg
                      Should have read this disclaimer before replying l, thanks.

                      As small talk usually is an amazing downer for me, it's good to know this.

                      Knowing this, it might be OK to not engage and instead try to do a friendly checkin, possibly by opening up sharing your own state first?

                      sharknserg@plush.cityS This user is from outside of this forum
                      sharknserg@plush.cityS This user is from outside of this forum
                      sharknserg@plush.city
                      wrote last edited by
                      #49

                      @janneke that's reasonable enough!

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                      • petrichorsquirrel@meow.socialP petrichorsquirrel@meow.social

                        @sharkNserg when people rail against small talk I'm always left internally asking myself "so, what, like a psychopath or something?"

                        sharknserg@plush.cityS This user is from outside of this forum
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                        sharknserg@plush.city
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                        #50

                        @PetrichorSquirrel it's fine to not like it and be bad at it and wish you didn't have to do it, honestly, I just wish it didn't so often turn into pathologizing people that *are* okay with it

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                        • sharknserg@plush.cityS sharknserg@plush.city

                          @janneke that's reasonable enough!

                          janneke@todon.nlJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #51

                          @sharkNserg
                          I was going to say, why don't they teach this sort of stuff in school or so, and then I wondered, how come typical folks somehow all know/learn such unwritten, amazingly silly, rules?

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                          • sharknserg@plush.cityS sharknserg@plush.city

                            Saw this elsewhere, thought it'd be a good to share here

                            sharknserg@plush.cityS This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #52

                            Based on my replies, I get the feeling people on Fedi are more likely to feel attacked by this, so, please take my reassurance:

                            It is ok to not like small talk, it is okay to be bad at it, it is okay to wish you didn't get put into situations where you feel like you're forced into it

                            All this post is for is demystifying why others do it and why it's not bad or shallow that they do it

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                            • janneke@todon.nlJ janneke@todon.nl

                              @sharkNserg
                              I was going to say, why don't they teach this sort of stuff in school or so, and then I wondered, how come typical folks somehow all know/learn such unwritten, amazingly silly, rules?

                              sharknserg@plush.cityS This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #53

                              @janneke Honestly, if you asked people that are good at and like small talk why they do it, most of them aren't going to explain it like this post does, because it's probably not something they ever really thought about

                              And, I would say school *is* the place where a lot of this is learned; not formally or with lessons, but just as part of socialization and (hopefully) with teachers or other leadership that take an active interest in helping kids get along

                              Doesn't always work, of course, but...

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                              • stephanie@thetransagenda.gayS stephanie@thetransagenda.gay

                                @Coffee@toot.cafe @sharkNserg@plush.city If the purpose of small talk is to make friendly noises, then meowing is also a form of small talk

                                coffee@toot.cafeC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #54

                                @Stephanie This is precisely my point.

                                @sharkNserg

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                                • coffee@toot.cafeC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #55

                                  @Bumblefish meowwww

                                  @sharkNserg

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                                  • ide@masto.aiI ide@masto.ai

                                    @Coffee @sharkNserg
                                    Having an actual social interaction gives a lot more information to both parties. Any anti-social psycho can make cat noises.

                                    coffee@toot.cafeC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #56

                                    @ide Wait wait wait. Are you telling me those clickbaity articles I have been reading all my life -- claiming that 90% of NT communication is nonverbal+subtext and words barely matter -- are wrong?

                                    Conversely, do you understand how much _subtext_ a single meow can hold?

                                    @sharkNserg

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                                    • sharknserg@plush.cityS sharknserg@plush.city

                                      if you dislike small talk: this post isn't to convince you to like it

                                      It's only to explain, if you have ever thought "small talk is so pointless and I don't understand why people do it", well, why they do it

                                      aearo@dragon.styleA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #57

                                      @sharkNserg

                                      Yeah, and even if you don't wanna do it yourself, knowing what the purpose of it is might inform what you do instead.

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                                      • coffee@toot.cafeC coffee@toot.cafe

                                        @Stephanie This is precisely my point.

                                        @sharkNserg

                                        ozzelot@mstdn.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        ozzelot@mstdn.social
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                                        #58

                                        @Coffee
                                        meow
                                        @Stephanie @sharkNserg

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                                        • sharknserg@plush.cityS sharknserg@plush.city

                                          Saw this elsewhere, thought it'd be a good to share here

                                          jgeorge@oldbytes.spaceJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @sharkNserg So funny (possibly) story, an old acquaintance of mine used to hame Strong Opinions about “small talk” that were in line with your comments - they are “polite noises” that we are set in our ways to both state and reply, and the *content* of the reply doesn’t matter, it’s that there *is* a reply that makes the other person feel seen and recognized and the lack of a response comes across as cold, caring, and inhuman, and likely is someone you would otherwise want to avoid.

                                          To prove that the ‘response’ to small talk was itself irrelevant, he used to reply to canned small talk comments by *quacking*. Almost nobody ever mentioned it, they took the response - any response - as an acknowldgement.

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