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  • coffee@toot.cafeC coffee@toot.cafe

    @sharkNserg Okay, but why can't we just meow at each other? It would make things so much easier...

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    #23

    @Coffee@toot.cafe @sharkNserg@plush.city If the purpose of small talk is to make friendly noises, then meowing is also a form of small talk

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    • sharknserg@plush.cityS sharknserg@plush.city

      Saw this elsewhere, thought it'd be a good to share here

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      #24

      @sharkNserg And a friendly wave or a handshake proves you don't have a weapon in your hand, at least ATM.

      A hug is more ambiguous.

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      • sharknserg@plush.cityS sharknserg@plush.city

        Saw this elsewhere, thought it'd be a good to share here

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        #25

        @sharkNserg I do small talk at the beginning of work meetings to hopefully find some connection with people. Knitters, runners, bakers, readers etc. people who love pickles. If you share a tiny bit of your day sometimes you can start making friends.

        So I agree with this definition of small talk completely!

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        • 3janeta@beige.party3 3janeta@beige.party

          @sharkNserg I do small talk at the beginning of work meetings to hopefully find some connection with people. Knitters, runners, bakers, readers etc. people who love pickles. If you share a tiny bit of your day sometimes you can start making friends.

          So I agree with this definition of small talk completely!

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          #26

          @3janeTA @sharkNserg

          omg they love pickles. heathens! GET THEM!

          (just kidding, I love pickles.)

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          • sharknserg@plush.cityS sharknserg@plush.city

            Saw this elsewhere, thought it'd be a good to share here

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            #27

            @sharkNserg As someone who's never been fond of small talk (though I understand its social-interaction purpose), I would probably do well to practice it more.

            I probably come across as aloof or unapproachable at times, but then once I get comfortable with a person, I can very easily over-share.

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            • intaglio_dragon@furry.engineerI intaglio_dragon@furry.engineer

              @sharkNserg As someone who's never been fond of small talk (though I understand its social-interaction purpose), I would probably do well to practice it more.

              I probably come across as aloof or unapproachable at times, but then once I get comfortable with a person, I can very easily over-share.

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              #28

              @Intaglio_Dragon @sharkNserg

              I've been trying to be more sociable and more at ease talking to strangers. My approach is to pretend (more or less) that I am interviewing them for a magazine or something. But with genuine interest.

              The best is when I get someone talking about something arcane that they are excited about, and I try to understand why.

              People love talking about their passions, and I've learned all kinds of things.

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              • billiglarper@rollenspiel.socialB billiglarper@rollenspiel.social

                @adar @sharkNserg

                A not so secret trick to small talk is to ask the other person about themselves with open questions, imho.

                People like to talk about the stuff they care about, and just having an active listener makes them feel seen.

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                #29

                @billiglarper @adar @sharkNserg

                The secret to being a wonderful conversationalist is to ask questions. Many won't realize you aren't talking about yourself.

                Another secret is to learn to mirror the other's responses converationally. Show that you heard and ask follow up questions.

                But you don't build strong friendships this way.

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                • sharknserg@plush.cityS sharknserg@plush.city

                  Saw this elsewhere, thought it'd be a good to share here

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                  #30

                  @sharkNserg I too see the utility - maybe even the evolutionary origins - of small talk. And then there is Norwegian society, where small talk between strangers seems to be anathema lol.

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                  • sharknserg@plush.cityS sharknserg@plush.city

                    Saw this elsewhere, thought it'd be a good to share here

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                    #31

                    @sharkNserg people who hate small talk freak me out

                    I do not know you why are you trying to talk about something so serious. It's very selfish and no one likes an edgelord.

                    Or even worse: if you refuse to talk to strangers your world will be very small and the antithesis of the community based world that needs to come into being.

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                    • erik@mastodon.infrageeks.socialE erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social

                      @sharkNserg @afewbugs Definitely not wrong. The content of the discussion is pointless, ephemeral and irrelevant, but the action of an agreeable verbal exchange has its own value

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                      #32

                      @erik @sharkNserg I started thinking of it as like when I meet an anxious dog and babble nonsense in a calm tone of voice just to show I'm not scary. The actual words don't matter

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                      • sharknserg@plush.cityS sharknserg@plush.city

                        Saw this elsewhere, thought it'd be a good to share here

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                        #33

                        @sharkNserg I've explained small talk to many Germans. (they have their own small talk rituals, but many think they don't and like ragging on the American rituals they see on TV and among tourists.) I have one thing to add to OP's spot-on take:

                        small talk is also a status check. if someone lacks spoons for small talk, something else might be up. unfortunately some use that check to gatekeep, but kind souls regard small-talk failure as an occasion to check in with a fellow human. "you ok?"

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                        • sharknserg@plush.cityS sharknserg@plush.city

                          Saw this elsewhere, thought it'd be a good to share here

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                          i love this so much. i've never really had an issue with talking small, and this kinda makes me feel less imposter syndromey about participating so much in it.

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                          • navi@catcatnya.comN navi@catcatnya.com

                            @ide @sharkNserg @Coffee counterpoint: any "anti-social" "psycho" (descriptors that are ableist when used as they are here) can hold smalltalk.

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                            #35

                            @navi @sharkNserg @Coffee
                            Couldn't come up with a succinct descriptor for a-person-you-don't-want-to-associate-with, you could replace it with a "chud" or whatever.
                            Point being you get a pretty good read on a person based on how they approach you, interact with you and how they respond to social cues. Doing the whole cumbersome social dance of small talk helps with sussing that out.

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                            • ide@masto.aiI ide@masto.ai

                              @navi @sharkNserg @Coffee
                              Couldn't come up with a succinct descriptor for a-person-you-don't-want-to-associate-with, you could replace it with a "chud" or whatever.
                              Point being you get a pretty good read on a person based on how they approach you, interact with you and how they respond to social cues. Doing the whole cumbersome social dance of small talk helps with sussing that out.

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                              @ide @sharkNserg @Coffee unfortunately, your assumption sounds to me like the introduction of the double-empathy problem.

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                              • navi@catcatnya.comN navi@catcatnya.com

                                @ide @sharkNserg @Coffee unfortunately, your assumption sounds to me like the introduction of the double-empathy problem.

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                                #37

                                @navi @sharkNserg @Coffee
                                Eh, if there's a serious enough compatibility problem at small talk level I don't think most people would see much prospects for a deeper relationship/association, one way or the other.

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                                • ide@masto.aiI ide@masto.ai

                                  @navi @sharkNserg @Coffee
                                  Eh, if there's a serious enough compatibility problem at small talk level I don't think most people would see much prospects for a deeper relationship/association, one way or the other.

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                                  #38

                                  @ide @sharkNserg @Coffee this is true, but not for the reason one might think

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                                  • sharknserg@plush.cityS sharknserg@plush.city

                                    if you dislike small talk: this post isn't to convince you to like it

                                    It's only to explain, if you have ever thought "small talk is so pointless and I don't understand why people do it", well, why they do it

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                                    #39

                                    @sharkNserg

                                    Getting canceled on Fedi for my pro-normie urges. This is a trap, isn't it?

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                                    • sharknserg@plush.cityS sharknserg@plush.city

                                      Saw this elsewhere, thought it'd be a good to share here

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                                      #40

                                      @sharkNserg
                                      I get checking in and aligning, but why so indirect, and awkwardly empty and shallow?

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                                      • sharknserg@plush.cityS sharknserg@plush.city

                                        if you dislike small talk: this post isn't to convince you to like it

                                        It's only to explain, if you have ever thought "small talk is so pointless and I don't understand why people do it", well, why they do it

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                                        #41

                                        @sharkNserg
                                        Should have read this disclaimer before replying l, thanks.

                                        As small talk usually is an amazing downer for me, it's good to know this.

                                        Knowing this, it might be OK to not engage and instead try to do a friendly checkin, possibly by opening up sharing your own state first?

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                                        • ide@masto.aiI ide@masto.ai

                                          @Coffee @sharkNserg
                                          Having an actual social interaction gives a lot more information to both parties. Any anti-social psycho can make cat noises.

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                                          #42

                                          @ide so any «anti-social psycho» can talk about weather. And?

                                          meowing IS a social interaction, too

                                          @Coffee @sharkNserg

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