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  • stroughtonsmith@mastodon.socialS stroughtonsmith@mastodon.social

    I made sure all my interactions work right with the Logitech Muse (i.e. stylus won't orbit the viewport, will modally lock to highlighted gizmo axes, etc), so now I can do a bit of vertex editing on the Apple Vision Pro, channeling @Dreamwieber

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    I never really thought about it before, but multitouch is actually legit for 3D modeling tools, maybe even better than a desktop. On a Mac, you need to hold modifier keys (or buy a multi-button mouse) to do everything you want with the viewport, but on touch you can orbit, pan, zoom, and multi-select very easily. If you special-case the stylus too, like I am, it feels very powerful.

    Almost all of this extends to spatial computing, though visionOS struggles a bit with two-hand gestures

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    • stroughtonsmith@mastodon.socialS stroughtonsmith@mastodon.social

      I never really thought about it before, but multitouch is actually legit for 3D modeling tools, maybe even better than a desktop. On a Mac, you need to hold modifier keys (or buy a multi-button mouse) to do everything you want with the viewport, but on touch you can orbit, pan, zoom, and multi-select very easily. If you special-case the stylus too, like I am, it feels very powerful.

      Almost all of this extends to spatial computing, though visionOS struggles a bit with two-hand gestures

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      @stroughtonsmith I mostly use Shapr3D on my iPad for CAD stuff I am so much faster than on my Mac with the same app.

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        @stroughtonsmith I mostly use Shapr3D on my iPad for CAD stuff I am so much faster than on my Mac with the same app.

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        @stroughtonsmith it’s great to use with the pencil and as you said touch for navigation.

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        • stroughtonsmith@mastodon.socialS stroughtonsmith@mastodon.social

          I never really thought about it before, but multitouch is actually legit for 3D modeling tools, maybe even better than a desktop. On a Mac, you need to hold modifier keys (or buy a multi-button mouse) to do everything you want with the viewport, but on touch you can orbit, pan, zoom, and multi-select very easily. If you special-case the stylus too, like I am, it feels very powerful.

          Almost all of this extends to spatial computing, though visionOS struggles a bit with two-hand gestures

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          The raytrace operation will now be dispatched into the background on iOS, allowing for long-running background tasks

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          • stroughtonsmith@mastodon.socialS stroughtonsmith@mastodon.social

            The raytrace operation will now be dispatched into the background on iOS, allowing for long-running background tasks

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            @stroughtonsmith only available on M3+ iPads, though 😩

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            • gregggreg@sfba.socialG gregggreg@sfba.social

              @stroughtonsmith only available on M3+ iPads, though 😩

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              @gregggreg oh no this runs on devices before that. I think it needs an M1/A14-class device or higher

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              • stroughtonsmith@mastodon.socialS stroughtonsmith@mastodon.social

                @gregggreg oh no this runs on devices before that. I think it needs an M1/A14-class device or higher

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                @stroughtonsmith using GPU in background tasks requires M3+ iPad I thought?

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                • gregggreg@sfba.socialG gregggreg@sfba.social

                  @stroughtonsmith using GPU in background tasks requires M3+ iPad I thought?

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                  @gregggreg do you have a source for that? I haven’t seen that documented

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                  • stroughtonsmith@mastodon.socialS stroughtonsmith@mastodon.social

                    @gregggreg do you have a source for that? I haven’t seen that documented

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                    @stroughtonsmith https://developer.apple.com/forums/thread/797538?answerId=854825022#854825022

                    "...which is that the iPhone 16 Pro does not support background GPU. I don't know of anywhere we formally state exactly which devices support it, but I believe it's only support on iPad's with an M3 or better (and not supported on any iPhone)."

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                    • stroughtonsmith@mastodon.socialS stroughtonsmith@mastodon.social

                      The raytrace operation will now be dispatched into the background on iOS, allowing for long-running background tasks

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                      iPadOS has never been better for rich, complex, desktop-class apps. Almost all of the old barriers and blockers are gone.

                      Sadly, Apple waited until most developers had run out of patience with the platform.

                      If this thing had Xcode, a real Xcode, it would be effectively complete

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                      • stroughtonsmith@mastodon.socialS stroughtonsmith@mastodon.social

                        iPadOS has never been better for rich, complex, desktop-class apps. Almost all of the old barriers and blockers are gone.

                        Sadly, Apple waited until most developers had run out of patience with the platform.

                        If this thing had Xcode, a real Xcode, it would be effectively complete

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                        (Maybe I should vibe code Xcode, next.)

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                        • stroughtonsmith@mastodon.socialS stroughtonsmith@mastodon.social

                          (Maybe I should vibe code Xcode, next.)

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                          Complex scenes are kinda fun 😎

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                          • stroughtonsmith@mastodon.socialS stroughtonsmith@mastodon.social

                            (Maybe I should vibe code Xcode, next.)

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                            @stroughtonsmith

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                            • stroughtonsmith@mastodon.socialS stroughtonsmith@mastodon.social

                              Complex scenes are kinda fun 😎

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                              Even my iPhone 12 Pro Max can raytrace!

                              Which I guess is not all that surprising, considering the A14 chip is the same generation as the M1

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                              • stroughtonsmith@mastodon.socialS stroughtonsmith@mastodon.social

                                Even my iPhone 12 Pro Max can raytrace!

                                Which I guess is not all that surprising, considering the A14 chip is the same generation as the M1

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                                @stroughtonsmith

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                                • stroughtonsmith@mastodon.socialS stroughtonsmith@mastodon.social

                                  (Maybe I should vibe code Xcode, next.)

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                                  @stroughtonsmith The moment you vibe code it and it doesn’t have a modal pop up whenever it connects to the watch, we will know we’ve achieved the singularity

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                                  • stroughtonsmith@mastodon.socialS stroughtonsmith@mastodon.social

                                    Even my iPhone 12 Pro Max can raytrace!

                                    Which I guess is not all that surprising, considering the A14 chip is the same generation as the M1

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                                    @stroughtonsmith Petition to rename all A Series SoC as M Series "Mini".
                                    A14 -> M1 Mini
                                    A18 Pro -> M4 Mini

                                    The benchmarks don't lie.

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                                    • stroughtonsmith@mastodon.socialS stroughtonsmith@mastodon.social

                                      Even my iPhone 12 Pro Max can raytrace!

                                      Which I guess is not all that surprising, considering the A14 chip is the same generation as the M1

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                                      That’s a whole lot of raytracing from a little iPad. Biggest render to date, at 5120x2880 — took about an hour to get to the final pass.

                                      Crashed right at the end, so I didn’t get to take a picture of the final output 🥲

                                      The raytracer still needs a bunch of work, but it’s more and more capable day by day

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                                      • stroughtonsmith@mastodon.socialS stroughtonsmith@mastodon.social

                                        iPadOS has never been better for rich, complex, desktop-class apps. Almost all of the old barriers and blockers are gone.

                                        Sadly, Apple waited until most developers had run out of patience with the platform.

                                        If this thing had Xcode, a real Xcode, it would be effectively complete

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                                        @stroughtonsmith Much like with the windowed UI, I feel like Apple is putting in more work avoiding Xcode while previously making Swift Playgrounds nearly capable enough. It seems simpler to just have Xcode at this point.

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                                        • stroughtonsmith@mastodon.socialS stroughtonsmith@mastodon.social

                                          (Maybe I should vibe code Xcode, next.)

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                                          @stroughtonsmith yes please! Would be interesting how much of the toolchain can be included out of the box (of course not AppStore compatible)

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