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  • stroughtonsmith@mastodon.socialS stroughtonsmith@mastodon.social

    Pretty much everything I've worked on with Codex up to now has been stuff I could have built myself, within my area of expertise (or learnable), it just would have taken weeks or months.

    This 3D scene app is something I never would have been able to build myself. I would have needed a team of rendering experts with domain-specific knowledge and human-years of research

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    I love how visionOS, uniquely, *explodes* when rendering goes wrong.

    Hello [MacBook] Neo.

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    • stroughtonsmith@mastodon.socialS stroughtonsmith@mastodon.social

      Pretty much everything I've worked on with Codex up to now has been stuff I could have built myself, within my area of expertise (or learnable), it just would have taken weeks or months.

      This 3D scene app is something I never would have been able to build myself. I would have needed a team of rendering experts with domain-specific knowledge and human-years of research

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      @stroughtonsmith your results are amazing, but got me curious about Codex writing Metal, so I asked it to make a solar system simulation

      After two hours of back-and-forth it still can't seem to texture a sphere in a way that doesn't cause the lighting and texture to rotate with the view

      I gave it six goes at trying to get the bloom effect correct, but in the end had to paste an entire blog post into its context about how to render bloom in Metal

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      • simsaens@mastodon.socialS simsaens@mastodon.social

        @stroughtonsmith your results are amazing, but got me curious about Codex writing Metal, so I asked it to make a solar system simulation

        After two hours of back-and-forth it still can't seem to texture a sphere in a way that doesn't cause the lighting and texture to rotate with the view

        I gave it six goes at trying to get the bloom effect correct, but in the end had to paste an entire blog post into its context about how to render bloom in Metal

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        @simsaens I could suggest things, but if you want to take this offline, DM me your iMessage maybe

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        • stroughtonsmith@mastodon.socialS stroughtonsmith@mastodon.social

          Pretty much everything I've worked on with Codex up to now has been stuff I could have built myself, within my area of expertise (or learnable), it just would have taken weeks or months.

          This 3D scene app is something I never would have been able to build myself. I would have needed a team of rendering experts with domain-specific knowledge and human-years of research

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          @stroughtonsmith watching you build these things over the past few weeks has been amazing. Do you think there is a chance you will create a blog post or have a thread with more details about how you are promoting the AI agents?

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          • jlaase@hachyderm.ioJ jlaase@hachyderm.io

            @stroughtonsmith watching you build these things over the past few weeks has been amazing. Do you think there is a chance you will create a blog post or have a thread with more details about how you are promoting the AI agents?

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            @jlaase I did blog about it, and it has one prompt session transcript: https://highcaffeinecontent.com/blog/20260301-A-Month-With-OpenAIs-Codex

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            • stroughtonsmith@mastodon.socialS stroughtonsmith@mastodon.social

              Pretty much everything I've worked on with Codex up to now has been stuff I could have built myself, within my area of expertise (or learnable), it just would have taken weeks or months.

              This 3D scene app is something I never would have been able to build myself. I would have needed a team of rendering experts with domain-specific knowledge and human-years of research

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              #158

              @stroughtonsmith for my use, the "vibe Coding" is most helpful for edge cases where it would be a huge rabbit whole to implement a relatively small feature, so we're aligned there. Thank you for sharing your work online

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              • stroughtonsmith@mastodon.socialS stroughtonsmith@mastodon.social

                I love how visionOS, uniquely, *explodes* when rendering goes wrong.

                Hello [MacBook] Neo.

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                So now that visionOS 26 lets you spawn immersive scenes from UIKit apps, I had Codex implement me an immersive scene using Metal and CompositorServices that mirrors the in-window viewport and lets you live in your scene 😁

                It's real frickin cool.

                The raytracer might be off limits for visionOS, but there's a lot of interesting stuff to do in other areas

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                • stroughtonsmith@mastodon.socialS stroughtonsmith@mastodon.social

                  So now that visionOS 26 lets you spawn immersive scenes from UIKit apps, I had Codex implement me an immersive scene using Metal and CompositorServices that mirrors the in-window viewport and lets you live in your scene 😁

                  It's real frickin cool.

                  The raytracer might be off limits for visionOS, but there's a lot of interesting stuff to do in other areas

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                  @stroughtonsmith I knew you will do it πŸ˜‰

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                  • stroughtonsmith@mastodon.socialS stroughtonsmith@mastodon.social

                    So now that visionOS 26 lets you spawn immersive scenes from UIKit apps, I had Codex implement me an immersive scene using Metal and CompositorServices that mirrors the in-window viewport and lets you live in your scene 😁

                    It's real frickin cool.

                    The raytracer might be off limits for visionOS, but there's a lot of interesting stuff to do in other areas

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                    @stroughtonsmith that is extremely cool

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                    • stroughtonsmith@mastodon.socialS stroughtonsmith@mastodon.social

                      So now that visionOS 26 lets you spawn immersive scenes from UIKit apps, I had Codex implement me an immersive scene using Metal and CompositorServices that mirrors the in-window viewport and lets you live in your scene 😁

                      It's real frickin cool.

                      The raytracer might be off limits for visionOS, but there's a lot of interesting stuff to do in other areas

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                      @stroughtonsmith to be honest, that concept might be one of the greatest use cases for Vision Pro. Imagine two controllers in your hand for much more precise input and you've got an awesome product

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                      • gklka@mastodon.socialG gklka@mastodon.social

                        @stroughtonsmith I knew you will do it πŸ˜‰

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                        @gklka I blame you

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                        • stroughtonsmith@mastodon.socialS stroughtonsmith@mastodon.social

                          I love how visionOS, uniquely, *explodes* when rendering goes wrong.

                          Hello [MacBook] Neo.

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                          @stroughtonsmith I imagine this screen still haunts some Apple engineers 🀣

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                          • stroughtonsmith@mastodon.socialS stroughtonsmith@mastodon.social

                            I figured I needed some kind of glass shader

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                            @stroughtonsmith but is it Liquid Glass πŸ™ƒ

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                            • stroughtonsmith@mastodon.socialS stroughtonsmith@mastodon.social

                              So now that visionOS 26 lets you spawn immersive scenes from UIKit apps, I had Codex implement me an immersive scene using Metal and CompositorServices that mirrors the in-window viewport and lets you live in your scene 😁

                              It's real frickin cool.

                              The raytracer might be off limits for visionOS, but there's a lot of interesting stuff to do in other areas

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                              I figured why not use RealityKit for the material previews, so now they are actual spheres.

                              Miraculously, it all still works β€” the Metal viewport, the Metal immersive scene, and the RealityKit UI elements, but it's very clear the Vision Pro (M2) doesn't have much headroom to build an actual app around this stuff

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                              • stroughtonsmith@mastodon.socialS stroughtonsmith@mastodon.social

                                I figured why not use RealityKit for the material previews, so now they are actual spheres.

                                Miraculously, it all still works β€” the Metal viewport, the Metal immersive scene, and the RealityKit UI elements, but it's very clear the Vision Pro (M2) doesn't have much headroom to build an actual app around this stuff

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                                The raytracer is, for now, a no-go on visionOS. It's possible I could throttle it and stay within visionOS' systemwide render budget. But it's probably worth improving the RT performance a bunch on its own first before I come back and try it here. I might run out of steam on this prototype before then.

                                This entire app project is still in my 'Temp' folder, where throwaway projects live πŸ˜…

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                                • stroughtonsmith@mastodon.socialS stroughtonsmith@mastodon.social

                                  The raytracer is, for now, a no-go on visionOS. It's possible I could throttle it and stay within visionOS' systemwide render budget. But it's probably worth improving the RT performance a bunch on its own first before I come back and try it here. I might run out of steam on this prototype before then.

                                  This entire app project is still in my 'Temp' folder, where throwaway projects live πŸ˜…

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                                  This project, which runs on iPhone, iPad, Mac, and Vision Pro (with Immersive Space), is now 16.5K lines of code

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                                  • stroughtonsmith@mastodon.socialS stroughtonsmith@mastodon.social

                                    The raytracer is, for now, a no-go on visionOS. It's possible I could throttle it and stay within visionOS' systemwide render budget. But it's probably worth improving the RT performance a bunch on its own first before I come back and try it here. I might run out of steam on this prototype before then.

                                    This entire app project is still in my 'Temp' folder, where throwaway projects live πŸ˜…

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                                    @stroughtonsmith β€œThis entire app project is still in my 'Temp' folder, where throwaway projects live”

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                                    • stroughtonsmith@mastodon.socialS stroughtonsmith@mastodon.social

                                      Pretty much everything I've worked on with Codex up to now has been stuff I could have built myself, within my area of expertise (or learnable), it just would have taken weeks or months.

                                      This 3D scene app is something I never would have been able to build myself. I would have needed a team of rendering experts with domain-specific knowledge and human-years of research

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                                      @stroughtonsmith interestingly for me it is the reverse: a basic modeler with a basic built in ray tracer would take me maybe a day or two to build on my own with an imgui based UI.

                                      But all of the native iOS/iPadOS/visionOS stuff would have required me to have dedicated Apple frameworks experts help out on. My experience with writing Apple native apps is super limited. But with Codex, I’ve now made several nice custom, just-for-me native apps to replace things that were just scripts before.

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                                      • yiningkarlli@mastodon.gamedev.placeY yiningkarlli@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                        @stroughtonsmith interestingly for me it is the reverse: a basic modeler with a basic built in ray tracer would take me maybe a day or two to build on my own with an imgui based UI.

                                        But all of the native iOS/iPadOS/visionOS stuff would have required me to have dedicated Apple frameworks experts help out on. My experience with writing Apple native apps is super limited. But with Codex, I’ve now made several nice custom, just-for-me native apps to replace things that were just scripts before.

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                                        @yiningkarlli you might be a special case, all things considered πŸ˜‚

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                                        • stroughtonsmith@mastodon.socialS stroughtonsmith@mastodon.social

                                          @jlaase I did blog about it, and it has one prompt session transcript: https://highcaffeinecontent.com/blog/20260301-A-Month-With-OpenAIs-Codex

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                                          @stroughtonsmith@mastodon.sociadang, I guess I missed it. Thank you for pointing it out for me!

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