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  • navi@catcatnya.comN navi@catcatnya.com

    @ide @sharkNserg @Coffee unfortunately, your assumption sounds to me like the introduction of the double-empathy problem.

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    #37

    @navi @sharkNserg @Coffee
    Eh, if there's a serious enough compatibility problem at small talk level I don't think most people would see much prospects for a deeper relationship/association, one way or the other.

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    • ide@masto.aiI ide@masto.ai

      @navi @sharkNserg @Coffee
      Eh, if there's a serious enough compatibility problem at small talk level I don't think most people would see much prospects for a deeper relationship/association, one way or the other.

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      #38

      @ide @sharkNserg @Coffee this is true, but not for the reason one might think

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      • sharknserg@plush.cityS sharknserg@plush.city

        if you dislike small talk: this post isn't to convince you to like it

        It's only to explain, if you have ever thought "small talk is so pointless and I don't understand why people do it", well, why they do it

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        #39

        @sharkNserg

        Getting canceled on Fedi for my pro-normie urges. This is a trap, isn't it?

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        • sharknserg@plush.cityS sharknserg@plush.city

          Saw this elsewhere, thought it'd be a good to share here

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          #40

          @sharkNserg
          I get checking in and aligning, but why so indirect, and awkwardly empty and shallow?

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          • sharknserg@plush.cityS sharknserg@plush.city

            if you dislike small talk: this post isn't to convince you to like it

            It's only to explain, if you have ever thought "small talk is so pointless and I don't understand why people do it", well, why they do it

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            #41

            @sharkNserg
            Should have read this disclaimer before replying l, thanks.

            As small talk usually is an amazing downer for me, it's good to know this.

            Knowing this, it might be OK to not engage and instead try to do a friendly checkin, possibly by opening up sharing your own state first?

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            • ide@masto.aiI ide@masto.ai

              @Coffee @sharkNserg
              Having an actual social interaction gives a lot more information to both parties. Any anti-social psycho can make cat noises.

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              #42

              @ide so any ยซanti-social psychoยป can talk about weather. And?

              meowing IS a social interaction, too

              @Coffee @sharkNserg

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              • ide@masto.aiI ide@masto.ai

                @Coffee @sharkNserg
                Having an actual social interaction gives a lot more information to both parties. Any anti-social psycho can make cat noises.

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                @ide@masto.ai @sharkNserg@plush.city @Coffee@toot.cafe antisocial psychos who make cat noises,,,,,,,,,,,,,, โ€‹โ€‹โ€‹โ€‹โ€‹โ€‹

                @mo@mastodon.ml

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                • sharknserg@plush.cityS sharknserg@plush.city

                  Saw this elsewhere, thought it'd be a good to share here

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                  @sharkNserg this is how I talk to all the men I deliver parts to despite hating talking to men.

                  Works almost every time B3

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                  • sharknserg@plush.cityS sharknserg@plush.city

                    Saw this elsewhere, thought it'd be a good to share here

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                    #45

                    @sharkNserg our little introduction rituals

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                    • billiglarper@rollenspiel.socialB billiglarper@rollenspiel.social

                      @adar @sharkNserg

                      A not so secret trick to small talk is to ask the other person about themselves with open questions, imho.

                      People like to talk about the stuff they care about, and just having an active listener makes them feel seen.

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                      #46

                      @billiglarper @adar @sharkNserg Any tips for making it sound less like an interrogation?

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                      • coffee@toot.cafeC coffee@toot.cafe

                        @sharkNserg Okay, but why can't we just meow at each other? It would make things so much easier...

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                        @Coffee @sharkNserg i think just walking up to someone and meow will work too. ๐Ÿ˜บ

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                        • sharknserg@plush.cityS sharknserg@plush.city

                          Saw this elsewhere, thought it'd be a good to share here

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                          #48

                          @sharkNserg when people rail against small talk I'm always left internally asking myself "so, what, like a psychopath or something?"

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                          • janneke@todon.nlJ janneke@todon.nl

                            @sharkNserg
                            Should have read this disclaimer before replying l, thanks.

                            As small talk usually is an amazing downer for me, it's good to know this.

                            Knowing this, it might be OK to not engage and instead try to do a friendly checkin, possibly by opening up sharing your own state first?

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                            #49

                            @janneke that's reasonable enough!

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                            • petrichorsquirrel@meow.socialP petrichorsquirrel@meow.social

                              @sharkNserg when people rail against small talk I'm always left internally asking myself "so, what, like a psychopath or something?"

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                              #50

                              @PetrichorSquirrel it's fine to not like it and be bad at it and wish you didn't have to do it, honestly, I just wish it didn't so often turn into pathologizing people that *are* okay with it

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                              • sharknserg@plush.cityS sharknserg@plush.city

                                @janneke that's reasonable enough!

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                                #51

                                @sharkNserg
                                I was going to say, why don't they teach this sort of stuff in school or so, and then I wondered, how come typical folks somehow all know/learn such unwritten, amazingly silly, rules?

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                                • sharknserg@plush.cityS sharknserg@plush.city

                                  Saw this elsewhere, thought it'd be a good to share here

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                                  #52

                                  Based on my replies, I get the feeling people on Fedi are more likely to feel attacked by this, so, please take my reassurance:

                                  It is ok to not like small talk, it is okay to be bad at it, it is okay to wish you didn't get put into situations where you feel like you're forced into it

                                  All this post is for is demystifying why others do it and why it's not bad or shallow that they do it

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                                  • janneke@todon.nlJ janneke@todon.nl

                                    @sharkNserg
                                    I was going to say, why don't they teach this sort of stuff in school or so, and then I wondered, how come typical folks somehow all know/learn such unwritten, amazingly silly, rules?

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                                    @janneke Honestly, if you asked people that are good at and like small talk why they do it, most of them aren't going to explain it like this post does, because it's probably not something they ever really thought about

                                    And, I would say school *is* the place where a lot of this is learned; not formally or with lessons, but just as part of socialization and (hopefully) with teachers or other leadership that take an active interest in helping kids get along

                                    Doesn't always work, of course, but...

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                                    • stephanie@thetransagenda.gayS stephanie@thetransagenda.gay

                                      @Coffee@toot.cafe @sharkNserg@plush.city If the purpose of small talk is to make friendly noises, then meowing is also a form of small talk

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                                      @Stephanie This is precisely my point.

                                      @sharkNserg

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                                        @Bumblefish meowwww

                                        @sharkNserg

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                                        • ide@masto.aiI ide@masto.ai

                                          @Coffee @sharkNserg
                                          Having an actual social interaction gives a lot more information to both parties. Any anti-social psycho can make cat noises.

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                                          @ide Wait wait wait. Are you telling me those clickbaity articles I have been reading all my life -- claiming that 90% of NT communication is nonverbal+subtext and words barely matter -- are wrong?

                                          Conversely, do you understand how much _subtext_ a single meow can hold?

                                          @sharkNserg

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