Can web developers stop fucking with scroll bars please?

[leeloo@c.im]

@tanavit @tj
The real one, yes.

But you can set an area of the page to overflow: hidden, meaning that if there is too much content to fit, don't display the excess - which is useful on fixed size boxes because otherwise the content overlaps with other content.

But that also means that you can hide the browser scrollbar and replace it with a slow broken one written in javascript.

[ertain@mast.linuxgamecast.com]

@tj Preach it.

[rusty@piaille.fr]

@argv_minus_one @tj Mobile phones usually dont display the scroll bar. That's a mobile phone design pattern leaking on the desktop.

[songxisto@icosahedron.website]

@TerrorBite @tj firts time I saw that was on the Apple website I guess

[aral@mastodon.ar.al]

@tj Meanwhile, web developers: “Why is the livestock we’re trying to farm for its data talking? John, did you know they could talk?”

[mees@sunny.garden]

@tj but, you would lose interest in our sales pitch if you knew how long it was!

[lukeharby@infosec.exchange]

@tj Hate it. Seems like it also might be an accessibility minefield.

[cavyherd@wandering.shop]

@tj

Can •all• the developers stop fucking with the scroll bars please? Same same—your design vision isn't worth a piss if I can't •use• it.

[cavyherd@wandering.shop]

@lukeharby @tj

s/might be/is/

[damiab@peculiar.florist]

@tj Here on MacOS the scroll bars only appears when needed, i.e. while scrolling. We can see its size and position. It keeps beeing displayed a few seconds after beeing used and disappear. But, we can also hover it, click on it and scroll while sliding the mouse.

But, that beeing said, I didn't encounter much website that disabled totally the scroll bar. I didn't knew it was a thing up until your toot.

[drewtowler@mas.to]

@Cal @tj Thanks! Will try it.

[lyrial@transfem.social]

@tj@howse.social I'll just drop this here: https://scrollbars.matoseb.com/

[2003mugishaphocit@mastodon.social]

@tj Do you know how to create websites?

[fedithom@social.saarland]

@tj THIS!

[veronica@mastodon.online]

@TerrorBite Or when the scroll wheel (or finger scroll on the phone) scrolls a box in the middle of the page and there is just a tiny area left where you can actually scroll the page to get past the box. Happens a lot on certain news sites.

@tj

[pteryx@dice.camp]

@lyrial @tj
Ooh, they're interactable!

[project1enigma@chaos.social]

@aligorith @tj Xaw scrollbars were the best in my eyes.

[daz@floss.social]

@tj can I add disabling control click to open link in a new tab to the list? I was on a docs site that did this. Really frustrating.

[daz@floss.social]

@RedFacedUakari @tj "user agent" brilliant. I'm gonna quote that some time I expect when I'm advocating for HDA (hypermedia driven applications)

[dysfun@social.treehouse.systems]

@tj what i have never understood is why they consider the scroll bar as part of the design rather than the window framing