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Can web developers stop fucking with scroll bars please?

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  • tj@howse.socialT tj@howse.social

    Can web developers stop fucking with scroll bars please? No website is so beautiful that it justifies losing the ability to see how far the page scrolls down. I don't give two shits about your design vision.

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    @tj@howse.social in a similar vein, don’t make a page scroll with smoothing at the beginning and in the end. it’s not natural

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    • terrorbite@meow.socialT terrorbite@meow.social

      @tj when you're scrolling down, and suddenly the page stops scrolling and the scroll is controlling some kind of animation instead

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      #32

      @TerrorBite @tj horrendous UX

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      • ariarhythmic@ohai.socialA ariarhythmic@ohai.social

        @TerrorBite @tj horrendous UX

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        #33

        @TerrorBite @tj it doesn't even look good.

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        • T tanavit@toot.aquilenet.fr

          @kagan

          Thanks.

          Is there a way to circumvent these stupidities and allow the browser to present a scrollbar when needed ?

          @tj

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          #34

          @tanavit @kagan @tj
          There are browser extensions, but they mostly require specific code per web site, so not a universal solution.

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          • T tanavit@toot.aquilenet.fr

            @tj

            Is not the scrollbar a feature of the browser, not the server ?

            Serious question.

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            @tanavit @tj
            The real one, yes.

            But you can set an area of the page to overflow: hidden, meaning that if there is too much content to fit, don't display the excess - which is useful on fixed size boxes because otherwise the content overlaps with other content.

            But that also means that you can hide the browser scrollbar and replace it with a slow broken one written in javascript.

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            • tj@howse.socialT tj@howse.social

              Can web developers stop fucking with scroll bars please? No website is so beautiful that it justifies losing the ability to see how far the page scrolls down. I don't give two shits about your design vision.

              ertain@mast.linuxgamecast.comE This user is from outside of this forum
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              #36

              @tj Preach it.

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              • argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org

                @tj

                Some websites now display a horizontal progress bar across the top of the viewport, which fills up as you scroll down the page, exactly like a scroll bar.

                Instead of just showing a scroll bar.

                Madness. Absolute madness.

                #webdev

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                @argv_minus_one @tj Mobile phones usually dont display the scroll bar. That's a mobile phone design pattern leaking on the desktop.

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                • terrorbite@meow.socialT terrorbite@meow.social

                  @tj when you're scrolling down, and suddenly the page stops scrolling and the scroll is controlling some kind of animation instead

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                  #38

                  @TerrorBite @tj firts time I saw that was on the Apple website I guess

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                  • tj@howse.socialT tj@howse.social

                    Can web developers stop fucking with scroll bars please? No website is so beautiful that it justifies losing the ability to see how far the page scrolls down. I don't give two shits about your design vision.

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                    #39

                    @tj Meanwhile, web developers: “Why is the livestock we’re trying to farm for its data talking? John, did you know they could talk?”

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                    • tj@howse.socialT tj@howse.social

                      Can web developers stop fucking with scroll bars please? No website is so beautiful that it justifies losing the ability to see how far the page scrolls down. I don't give two shits about your design vision.

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                      #40

                      @tj but, you would lose interest in our sales pitch if you knew how long it was!

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                      • tj@howse.socialT tj@howse.social

                        Can web developers stop fucking with scroll bars please? No website is so beautiful that it justifies losing the ability to see how far the page scrolls down. I don't give two shits about your design vision.

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                        #41

                        @tj Hate it. Seems like it also might be an accessibility minefield.

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                        • tj@howse.socialT tj@howse.social

                          Can web developers stop fucking with scroll bars please? No website is so beautiful that it justifies losing the ability to see how far the page scrolls down. I don't give two shits about your design vision.

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                          @tj

                          Can •all• the developers stop fucking with the scroll bars please? Same same—your design vision isn't worth a piss if I can't •use• it.

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                          • lukeharby@infosec.exchangeL lukeharby@infosec.exchange

                            @tj Hate it. Seems like it also might be an accessibility minefield.

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                            @lukeharby @tj

                            s/might be/is/

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                            • tj@howse.socialT tj@howse.social

                              Can web developers stop fucking with scroll bars please? No website is so beautiful that it justifies losing the ability to see how far the page scrolls down. I don't give two shits about your design vision.

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                              @tj Here on MacOS the scroll bars only appears when needed, i.e. while scrolling. We can see its size and position. It keeps beeing displayed a few seconds after beeing used and disappear. But, we can also hover it, click on it and scroll while sliding the mouse.

                              But, that beeing said, I didn't encounter much website that disabled totally the scroll bar. I didn't knew it was a thing up until your toot.

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                              • cal@kind.socialC cal@kind.social

                                @drewtowler @tj I strongly recommend https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/381674-don-t-with-my-scroll

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                                @Cal @tj Thanks! Will try it.

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                                • tj@howse.socialT tj@howse.social

                                  Can web developers stop fucking with scroll bars please? No website is so beautiful that it justifies losing the ability to see how far the page scrolls down. I don't give two shits about your design vision.

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                                  @tj@howse.social I'll just drop this here: https://scrollbars.matoseb.com/

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                                  • tj@howse.socialT tj@howse.social

                                    Can web developers stop fucking with scroll bars please? No website is so beautiful that it justifies losing the ability to see how far the page scrolls down. I don't give two shits about your design vision.

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                                    #47

                                    @tj Do you know how to create websites?

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                                    • tj@howse.socialT tj@howse.social

                                      Can web developers stop fucking with scroll bars please? No website is so beautiful that it justifies losing the ability to see how far the page scrolls down. I don't give two shits about your design vision.

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                                      #48

                                      @tj THIS!

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                                      • terrorbite@meow.socialT terrorbite@meow.social

                                        @tj when you're scrolling down, and suddenly the page stops scrolling and the scroll is controlling some kind of animation instead

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                                        @TerrorBite Or when the scroll wheel (or finger scroll on the phone) scrolls a box in the middle of the page and there is just a tiny area left where you can actually scroll the page to get past the box. Happens a lot on certain news sites.

                                        @tj

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                                        • lyrial@transfem.socialL lyrial@transfem.social

                                          @tj@howse.social I'll just drop this here: https://scrollbars.matoseb.com/

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                                          @lyrial @tj
                                          Ooh, they're interactable!

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