<![CDATA[Can web developers stop fucking with scroll bars please?]]>Can web developers stop fucking with scroll bars please? No website is so beautiful that it justifies losing the ability to see how far the page scrolls down. I don't give two shits about your design vision.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/topic/bedbf0b8-8633-49d0-abd7-322ce40d0aa9/can-web-developers-stop-fucking-with-scroll-bars-pleaseRSS for NodeFri, 15 May 2026 06:42:40 GMTSun, 03 May 2026 01:36:27 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Can web developers stop fucking with scroll bars please? on Sun, 03 May 2026 11:56:09 GMT]]>@pteryx @lyrial @tj Sadly at least the Windows scrollbars don't behave like the real thing (clicking the shaded area outside the thumb doesn't move the thumb directly to the clicked position, but instead moves it a slightly larger amount than clicking the arrows).

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/jernej__s/statuses/116510514814514316https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/jernej__s/statuses/116510514814514316Sun, 03 May 2026 11:56:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can web developers stop fucking with scroll bars please? on Sun, 03 May 2026 11:34:59 GMT]]>@tj also, scrolling things in scrolling things. Like, they suck, just don’t. Possible exception is horizontal scrolling things in vertical scrolling.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://todon.nl/users/benjohn/statuses/116510431628120281https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://todon.nl/users/benjohn/statuses/116510431628120281Sun, 03 May 2026 11:34:59 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can web developers stop fucking with scroll bars please? on Sun, 03 May 2026 11:34:27 GMT]]>@tj there should be no API for this at all!]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.place/objects/1c309bd6-ab46-447f-b68f-5ce2896b6e3bhttps://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.place/objects/1c309bd6-ab46-447f-b68f-5ce2896b6e3bSun, 03 May 2026 11:34:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can web developers stop fucking with scroll bars please? on Sun, 03 May 2026 11:27:49 GMT]]>@tj let me click/tab amd grab that bitch. FFS

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/Mage_of_Chaos/statuses/116510403416642228https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/Mage_of_Chaos/statuses/116510403416642228Sun, 03 May 2026 11:27:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can web developers stop fucking with scroll bars please? on Sun, 03 May 2026 11:15:19 GMT]]>@tj what i have never understood is why they consider the scroll bar as part of the design rather than the window framing

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.treehouse.systems/users/dysfun/statuses/116510354278878713https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.treehouse.systems/users/dysfun/statuses/116510354278878713Sun, 03 May 2026 11:15:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can web developers stop fucking with scroll bars please? on Sun, 03 May 2026 10:25:33 GMT]]>@RedFacedUakari @tj "user agent" brilliant. I'm gonna quote that some time I expect when I'm advocating for HDA (hypermedia driven applications)

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://floss.social/users/daz/statuses/116510158583133218https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://floss.social/users/daz/statuses/116510158583133218Sun, 03 May 2026 10:25:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can web developers stop fucking with scroll bars please? on Sun, 03 May 2026 10:23:44 GMT]]>@tj can I add disabling control click to open link in a new tab to the list? I was on a docs site that did this. Really frustrating.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://floss.social/users/daz/statuses/116510151445973001https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://floss.social/users/daz/statuses/116510151445973001Sun, 03 May 2026 10:23:44 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can web developers stop fucking with scroll bars please? on Sun, 03 May 2026 09:41:26 GMT]]>@aligorith @tj Xaw scrollbars were the best in my eyes.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://chaos.social/users/project1enigma/statuses/116509985119581647https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://chaos.social/users/project1enigma/statuses/116509985119581647Sun, 03 May 2026 09:41:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can web developers stop fucking with scroll bars please? on Sun, 03 May 2026 09:37:30 GMT]]>@lyrial @tj
Ooh, they're interactable!

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://dice.camp/users/pteryx/statuses/116509969617971164https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://dice.camp/users/pteryx/statuses/116509969617971164Sun, 03 May 2026 09:37:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can web developers stop fucking with scroll bars please? on Sun, 03 May 2026 09:30:49 GMT]]>@TerrorBite Or when the scroll wheel (or finger scroll on the phone) scrolls a box in the middle of the page and there is just a tiny area left where you can actually scroll the page to get past the box. Happens a lot on certain news sites.

@tj

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.online/users/veronica/statuses/116509943339904185https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.online/users/veronica/statuses/116509943339904185Sun, 03 May 2026 09:30:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can web developers stop fucking with scroll bars please? on Sun, 03 May 2026 09:16:47 GMT]]>@tj THIS!

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.saarland/users/fedithom/statuses/116509888181429871https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://social.saarland/users/fedithom/statuses/116509888181429871Sun, 03 May 2026 09:16:47 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can web developers stop fucking with scroll bars please? on Sun, 03 May 2026 09:03:32 GMT]]>@tj Do you know how to create websites?

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/115563894722913318/statuses/116509836085391773https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/ap/users/115563894722913318/statuses/116509836085391773Sun, 03 May 2026 09:03:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can web developers stop fucking with scroll bars please? on Sun, 03 May 2026 09:01:25 GMT]]>@tj@howse.social I'll just drop this here: https://scrollbars.matoseb.com/

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://transfem.social/notes/alt3v8f1gjav0dp5https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://transfem.social/notes/alt3v8f1gjav0dp5Sun, 03 May 2026 09:01:25 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can web developers stop fucking with scroll bars please? on Sun, 03 May 2026 08:38:19 GMT]]>@Cal @tj Thanks! Will try it.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mas.to/users/drewtowler/statuses/116509736900553959https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mas.to/users/drewtowler/statuses/116509736900553959Sun, 03 May 2026 08:38:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can web developers stop fucking with scroll bars please? on Sun, 03 May 2026 08:37:02 GMT]]>@tj Here on MacOS the scroll bars only appears when needed, i.e. while scrolling. We can see its size and position. It keeps beeing displayed a few seconds after beeing used and disappear. But, we can also hover it, click on it and scroll while sliding the mouse.

But, that beeing said, I didn't encounter much website that disabled totally the scroll bar. I didn't knew it was a thing up until your toot.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://peculiar.florist/notes/alt2zvj9ib2r9m6thttps://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://peculiar.florist/notes/alt2zvj9ib2r9m6tSun, 03 May 2026 08:37:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can web developers stop fucking with scroll bars please? on Sun, 03 May 2026 08:33:38 GMT]]>@lukeharby @tj

s/might be/is/

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://wandering.shop/users/cavyherd/statuses/116509718491093811https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://wandering.shop/users/cavyherd/statuses/116509718491093811Sun, 03 May 2026 08:33:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can web developers stop fucking with scroll bars please? on Sun, 03 May 2026 08:32:03 GMT]]>@tj

Can •all• the developers stop fucking with the scroll bars please? Same same—your design vision isn't worth a piss if I can't •use• it.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://wandering.shop/users/cavyherd/statuses/116509712303478342https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://wandering.shop/users/cavyherd/statuses/116509712303478342Sun, 03 May 2026 08:32:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can web developers stop fucking with scroll bars please? on Sun, 03 May 2026 08:32:03 GMT]]>@tj Hate it. Seems like it also might be an accessibility minefield.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/lukeharby/statuses/116509712315195412https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://infosec.exchange/users/lukeharby/statuses/116509712315195412Sun, 03 May 2026 08:32:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can web developers stop fucking with scroll bars please? on Sun, 03 May 2026 08:25:59 GMT]]>@tj but, you would lose interest in our sales pitch if you knew how long it was!

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://sunny.garden/users/mees/statuses/116509688407305129https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://sunny.garden/users/mees/statuses/116509688407305129Sun, 03 May 2026 08:25:59 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can web developers stop fucking with scroll bars please? on Sun, 03 May 2026 08:25:08 GMT]]>@tj Meanwhile, web developers: “Why is the livestock we’re trying to farm for its data talking? John, did you know they could talk?”

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.ar.al/users/aral/statuses/116509685115308475https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.ar.al/users/aral/statuses/116509685115308475Sun, 03 May 2026 08:25:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can web developers stop fucking with scroll bars please? on Sun, 03 May 2026 08:01:50 GMT]]>@TerrorBite @tj firts time I saw that was on the Apple website I guess

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://icosahedron.website/users/songxisto/statuses/116509593443142723https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://icosahedron.website/users/songxisto/statuses/116509593443142723Sun, 03 May 2026 08:01:50 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can web developers stop fucking with scroll bars please? on Sun, 03 May 2026 07:54:56 GMT]]>@argv_minus_one @tj Mobile phones usually dont display the scroll bar. That's a mobile phone design pattern leaking on the desktop.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://piaille.fr/users/rusty/statuses/116509566322164471https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://piaille.fr/users/rusty/statuses/116509566322164471Sun, 03 May 2026 07:54:56 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can web developers stop fucking with scroll bars please? on Sun, 03 May 2026 07:45:58 GMT]]>@tj Preach it.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mast.linuxgamecast.com/users/Ertain/statuses/116509531086284119https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mast.linuxgamecast.com/users/Ertain/statuses/116509531086284119Sun, 03 May 2026 07:45:58 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Can web developers stop fucking with scroll bars please? on Sun, 03 May 2026 07:37:41 GMT]]>@tanavit @tj
The real one, yes.

But you can set an area of the page to overflow: hidden, meaning that if there is too much content to fit, don't display the excess - which is useful on fixed size boxes because otherwise the content overlaps with other content.

But that also means that you can hide the browser scrollbar and replace it with a slow broken one written in javascript.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://c.im/ap/users/116216635389955538/statuses/116509498519628671https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://c.im/ap/users/116216635389955538/statuses/116509498519628671Sun, 03 May 2026 07:37:41 GMT