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  • glamcode@openbiblio.socialG glamcode@openbiblio.social

    @_elena I have a “Critical AI reading list” on Mastodon that contains among others and among the ones you listed:

    - @baldur
    - @RainerMuehlhoff
    - @Weizenbaum_Institut
    - @olivia
    - @quinta
    - @lapcatsoftware
    - @dylan

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    @glamcode @_elena Don’t read me! I don’t even pretend to be an expert. I just rant sometimes. 😉

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    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

      @davidgerard THANK YOU!!!

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      @_elena @davidgerard ❤️

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      • esi@merveilles.townE esi@merveilles.town

        @_elena You might want to check out @rysiek and his blog at https://rys.io/en/index.html

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        @esi @_elena henlo 👋

        I also write critically about tech, including "AI", for Polish media, specifically OKO.press:
        https://oko.press/autor/michal-rysiek-wozniak

        Some relevant examples:
        https://oko.press/sztuczna-inteligencja-prace-nam-zabiera-czy-to-tylko-bajera
        https://oko.press/chinski-deepseek-upuscil-powietrza-z-amerykanskiej-banki-ai-co-teraz
        https://oko.press/ai-nie-rozwiaze-kryzysu-klimatycznego

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        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

          @kawunngg YES of course!!! I LOVE his work ❤️

          @davidrevoy

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          @_elena @kawunngg Thank you!

          The sentence that inspired most of my humble resistance, was the one I read by the author of Nepenthes:

          “I’m just fed up, and you know what? Let’s fight back, even if it’s not successful. Be indigestible. Grow spikes.”

          (src: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/01/ai-haters-build-tarpits-to-trap-and-trick-ai-scrapers-that-ignore-robots-txt/ )

          mkj@social.mkj.earthM 707kat@mastodon.art7 _elena@mastodon.social_ 3 Replies Last reply
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          • lapcatsoftware@mastodon.socialL lapcatsoftware@mastodon.social

            @glamcode @_elena Don’t read me! I don’t even pretend to be an expert. I just rant sometimes. 😉

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            @lapcatsoftware @_elena Ranting counts as „publicly resisting“ 😝

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            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

              Dear Fedi friends,

              I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

              Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

              Do you have any recommendations?

              So far, at the top of my list I have:

              @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

              plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

              Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

              hikingdude@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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              @_elena
              That's difficult.
              Aislop and hype are one side, there are good uses for it as well. So, just blaming LLMs feels like blaming a knife for murder.

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              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                Dear Fedi friends,

                I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                Do you have any recommendations?

                So far, at the top of my list I have:

                @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                dataknightmare@mastodon.xyzD This user is from outside of this forum
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                #66

                @_elena
                Outside of academia, yours truly was likely one of the first ones.

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                • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                  @_elena @kawunngg Thank you!

                  The sentence that inspired most of my humble resistance, was the one I read by the author of Nepenthes:

                  “I’m just fed up, and you know what? Let’s fight back, even if it’s not successful. Be indigestible. Grow spikes.”

                  (src: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/01/ai-haters-build-tarpits-to-trap-and-trick-ai-scrapers-that-ignore-robots-txt/ )

                  mkj@social.mkj.earthM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @davidrevoy Let's all make something imperfect, as an act of resistance. 🦜

                  🙂

                  @_elena @kawunngg

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                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                    Dear Fedi friends,

                    I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                    Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                    Do you have any recommendations?

                    So far, at the top of my list I have:

                    @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                    plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                    Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                    dataknightmare@mastodon.xyzD This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #68

                    @_elena also consider David Gerard @davidgerard (his wonderful Pivot to AI podcast is a gem)

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                    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                      @_elena @kawunngg Thank you!

                      The sentence that inspired most of my humble resistance, was the one I read by the author of Nepenthes:

                      “I’m just fed up, and you know what? Let’s fight back, even if it’s not successful. Be indigestible. Grow spikes.”

                      (src: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/01/ai-haters-build-tarpits-to-trap-and-trick-ai-scrapers-that-ignore-robots-txt/ )

                      707kat@mastodon.art7 This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @davidrevoy Been a fan since I first saw your beautiful illustrations on @Framasoft years back and your comic contributions and words in the fight against Loud Literal Machines TM has made me smile so much.

                      Thank you, David!

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                      • ckl@ioc.exchangeC ckl@ioc.exchange

                        @_elena @jwildeboer @jan
                        I had the very same idea for such a story as well, although apparently vi is out of scope now
                        https://ioc.exchange/@CKL/116161896679343123

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                        @CKL #EVi to the rescue! https://mastodon.social/@mrmasterkeyboard/116206795065369412

                        @_elena @jwildeboer @jan

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                        • romuald@piaille.frR romuald@piaille.fr

                          @_elena Pas immédiatement l’IA, mais sur la matérialité du numérique et des centres de données il y a @lenuageetaitsousnospieds et @tunubesecamirio . @Aepasek a publié une très bonne brochure sur comment résister aux datacenters, et sur la géopolitique du numérique je ne peux que conseiller le livre de @opheliecoelho ! @dataforgood fait du bon boulot également 👍

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                          @romuald @_elena @lenuageetaitsousnospieds @tunubesecamirio @opheliecoelho @dataforgood

                          merci!

                          Si un veux le lire: https://emmlab.info/Resources_page/Lutter%20contre%20les%20data%20centers.pdf

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                          • aepasek@scholar.socialA aepasek@scholar.social

                            @romuald @_elena @lenuageetaitsousnospieds @tunubesecamirio @opheliecoelho @dataforgood

                            merci!

                            Si un veux le lire: https://emmlab.info/Resources_page/Lutter%20contre%20les%20data%20centers.pdf

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                            @Aepasek merci Anne !

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                            • dataknightmare@mastodon.xyzD dataknightmare@mastodon.xyz

                              @_elena also consider David Gerard @davidgerard (his wonderful Pivot to AI podcast is a gem)

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                              @DataKnightmare thanks! putting you both on my list 🙏

                              P.S.: your SUPERB podcast is really my favorite these days... I wish everyone spoke Italian so they could enjoy it 🥲

                              @davidgerard

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                              • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                @_elena @kawunngg Thank you!

                                The sentence that inspired most of my humble resistance, was the one I read by the author of Nepenthes:

                                “I’m just fed up, and you know what? Let’s fight back, even if it’s not successful. Be indigestible. Grow spikes.”

                                (src: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/01/ai-haters-build-tarpits-to-trap-and-trick-ai-scrapers-that-ignore-robots-txt/ )

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                                @davidrevoy awww I LOVE this quote. Thanks for sharing David!!! And taking this opportunity to thank you for your extraordinary work

                                @kawunngg

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                                • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                                  @esi @_elena henlo 👋

                                  I also write critically about tech, including "AI", for Polish media, specifically OKO.press:
                                  https://oko.press/autor/michal-rysiek-wozniak

                                  Some relevant examples:
                                  https://oko.press/sztuczna-inteligencja-prace-nam-zabiera-czy-to-tylko-bajera
                                  https://oko.press/chinski-deepseek-upuscil-powietrza-z-amerykanskiej-banki-ai-co-teraz
                                  https://oko.press/ai-nie-rozwiaze-kryzysu-klimatycznego

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                                  @rysiek of course I should have already thought of you. Adding you to the list! ❤️

                                  @esi

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                                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                    Dear Fedi friends,

                                    I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                                    Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                                    Do you have any recommendations?

                                    So far, at the top of my list I have:

                                    @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                                    plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                                    Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                                    drewtowler@mas.toD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante I'm a cloud app developer and I post from a fairly rabid anti-AI viewpoint sometimes - though whether that makes me recommendable I have no idea.

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                                    • anildash@me.dmA anildash@me.dm

                                      @Standard_Phil @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante I think they’re all real researchers, I’m just a commentator here.

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                                      @anildash you 1000% belong to my list Anil ! And thanks @Standard_Phil for the suggestion

                                      FYI Anil if you don't know @jaredwhite he has a superb podcast titled Vibe Coded ("about the perils & pitfalls of creative intellectual automation; and why the future of good Internet vibes is for the humans, by the humans") : https://jaredwhite.com/projects/

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                                      • hikingdude@mastodon.socialH hikingdude@mastodon.social

                                        @_elena
                                        That's difficult.
                                        Aislop and hype are one side, there are good uses for it as well. So, just blaming LLMs feels like blaming a knife for murder.

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                                        @hikingdude @_elena smoking a cigarette feels good but it's still bad and we should talk about it being bad all the time and never say good things about it

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