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  • lapcatsoftware@mastodon.socialL lapcatsoftware@mastodon.social

    @glamcode @_elena Don’t read me! I don’t even pretend to be an expert. I just rant sometimes. 😉

    glamcode@openbiblio.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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    @lapcatsoftware @_elena Ranting counts as „publicly resisting“ 😝

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    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

      Dear Fedi friends,

      I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

      Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

      Do you have any recommendations?

      So far, at the top of my list I have:

      @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

      plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

      Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

      hikingdude@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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      #65

      @_elena
      That's difficult.
      Aislop and hype are one side, there are good uses for it as well. So, just blaming LLMs feels like blaming a knife for murder.

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      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

        Dear Fedi friends,

        I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

        Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

        Do you have any recommendations?

        So far, at the top of my list I have:

        @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

        plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

        Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

        dataknightmare@mastodon.xyzD This user is from outside of this forum
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        #66

        @_elena
        Outside of academia, yours truly was likely one of the first ones.

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        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

          @_elena @kawunngg Thank you!

          The sentence that inspired most of my humble resistance, was the one I read by the author of Nepenthes:

          “I’m just fed up, and you know what? Let’s fight back, even if it’s not successful. Be indigestible. Grow spikes.”

          (src: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/01/ai-haters-build-tarpits-to-trap-and-trick-ai-scrapers-that-ignore-robots-txt/ )

          mkj@social.mkj.earthM This user is from outside of this forum
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          @davidrevoy Let's all make something imperfect, as an act of resistance. 🦜

          🙂

          @_elena @kawunngg

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          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

            Dear Fedi friends,

            I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

            Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

            Do you have any recommendations?

            So far, at the top of my list I have:

            @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

            plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

            Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

            dataknightmare@mastodon.xyzD This user is from outside of this forum
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            dataknightmare@mastodon.xyz
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            #68

            @_elena also consider David Gerard @davidgerard (his wonderful Pivot to AI podcast is a gem)

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            • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

              @_elena @kawunngg Thank you!

              The sentence that inspired most of my humble resistance, was the one I read by the author of Nepenthes:

              “I’m just fed up, and you know what? Let’s fight back, even if it’s not successful. Be indigestible. Grow spikes.”

              (src: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/01/ai-haters-build-tarpits-to-trap-and-trick-ai-scrapers-that-ignore-robots-txt/ )

              707kat@mastodon.art7 This user is from outside of this forum
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              @davidrevoy Been a fan since I first saw your beautiful illustrations on @Framasoft years back and your comic contributions and words in the fight against Loud Literal Machines TM has made me smile so much.

              Thank you, David!

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              • ckl@ioc.exchangeC ckl@ioc.exchange

                @_elena @jwildeboer @jan
                I had the very same idea for such a story as well, although apparently vi is out of scope now
                https://ioc.exchange/@CKL/116161896679343123

                zipkid@gts.solfood.beZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                @CKL #EVi to the rescue! https://mastodon.social/@mrmasterkeyboard/116206795065369412

                @_elena @jwildeboer @jan

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                • romuald@piaille.frR romuald@piaille.fr

                  @_elena Pas immédiatement l’IA, mais sur la matérialité du numérique et des centres de données il y a @lenuageetaitsousnospieds et @tunubesecamirio . @Aepasek a publié une très bonne brochure sur comment résister aux datacenters, et sur la géopolitique du numérique je ne peux que conseiller le livre de @opheliecoelho ! @dataforgood fait du bon boulot également 👍

                  aepasek@scholar.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #71

                  @romuald @_elena @lenuageetaitsousnospieds @tunubesecamirio @opheliecoelho @dataforgood

                  merci!

                  Si un veux le lire: https://emmlab.info/Resources_page/Lutter%20contre%20les%20data%20centers.pdf

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                  • aepasek@scholar.socialA aepasek@scholar.social

                    @romuald @_elena @lenuageetaitsousnospieds @tunubesecamirio @opheliecoelho @dataforgood

                    merci!

                    Si un veux le lire: https://emmlab.info/Resources_page/Lutter%20contre%20les%20data%20centers.pdf

                    _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #72

                    @Aepasek merci Anne !

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                    • dataknightmare@mastodon.xyzD dataknightmare@mastodon.xyz

                      @_elena also consider David Gerard @davidgerard (his wonderful Pivot to AI podcast is a gem)

                      _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #73

                      @DataKnightmare thanks! putting you both on my list 🙏

                      P.S.: your SUPERB podcast is really my favorite these days... I wish everyone spoke Italian so they could enjoy it 🥲

                      @davidgerard

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                      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                        @_elena @kawunngg Thank you!

                        The sentence that inspired most of my humble resistance, was the one I read by the author of Nepenthes:

                        “I’m just fed up, and you know what? Let’s fight back, even if it’s not successful. Be indigestible. Grow spikes.”

                        (src: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/01/ai-haters-build-tarpits-to-trap-and-trick-ai-scrapers-that-ignore-robots-txt/ )

                        _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @davidrevoy awww I LOVE this quote. Thanks for sharing David!!! And taking this opportunity to thank you for your extraordinary work

                        @kawunngg

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                        • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                          @esi @_elena henlo 👋

                          I also write critically about tech, including "AI", for Polish media, specifically OKO.press:
                          https://oko.press/autor/michal-rysiek-wozniak

                          Some relevant examples:
                          https://oko.press/sztuczna-inteligencja-prace-nam-zabiera-czy-to-tylko-bajera
                          https://oko.press/chinski-deepseek-upuscil-powietrza-z-amerykanskiej-banki-ai-co-teraz
                          https://oko.press/ai-nie-rozwiaze-kryzysu-klimatycznego

                          _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @rysiek of course I should have already thought of you. Adding you to the list! ❤️

                          @esi

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                          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                            Dear Fedi friends,

                            I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                            Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                            Do you have any recommendations?

                            So far, at the top of my list I have:

                            @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                            plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                            Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                            drewtowler@mas.toD This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante I'm a cloud app developer and I post from a fairly rabid anti-AI viewpoint sometimes - though whether that makes me recommendable I have no idea.

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                            • anildash@me.dmA anildash@me.dm

                              @Standard_Phil @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante I think they’re all real researchers, I’m just a commentator here.

                              _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @anildash you 1000% belong to my list Anil ! And thanks @Standard_Phil for the suggestion

                              FYI Anil if you don't know @jaredwhite he has a superb podcast titled Vibe Coded ("about the perils & pitfalls of creative intellectual automation; and why the future of good Internet vibes is for the humans, by the humans") : https://jaredwhite.com/projects/

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                              • hikingdude@mastodon.socialH hikingdude@mastodon.social

                                @_elena
                                That's difficult.
                                Aislop and hype are one side, there are good uses for it as well. So, just blaming LLMs feels like blaming a knife for murder.

                                justin@social.younger.wtfJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #78

                                @hikingdude @_elena smoking a cigarette feels good but it's still bad and we should talk about it being bad all the time and never say good things about it

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