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  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

    @kawunngg YES of course!!! I LOVE his work ❤️

    @davidrevoy

    davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
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    #63

    @_elena @kawunngg Thank you!

    The sentence that inspired most of my humble resistance, was the one I read by the author of Nepenthes:

    “I’m just fed up, and you know what? Let’s fight back, even if it’s not successful. Be indigestible. Grow spikes.”

    (src: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/01/ai-haters-build-tarpits-to-trap-and-trick-ai-scrapers-that-ignore-robots-txt/ )

    mkj@social.mkj.earthM 707kat@mastodon.art7 _elena@mastodon.social_ 3 Replies Last reply
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    • lapcatsoftware@mastodon.socialL lapcatsoftware@mastodon.social

      @glamcode @_elena Don’t read me! I don’t even pretend to be an expert. I just rant sometimes. 😉

      glamcode@openbiblio.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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      #64

      @lapcatsoftware @_elena Ranting counts as „publicly resisting“ 😝

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      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

        Dear Fedi friends,

        I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

        Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

        Do you have any recommendations?

        So far, at the top of my list I have:

        @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

        plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

        Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

        hikingdude@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote last edited by
        #65

        @_elena
        That's difficult.
        Aislop and hype are one side, there are good uses for it as well. So, just blaming LLMs feels like blaming a knife for murder.

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        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

          Dear Fedi friends,

          I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

          Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

          Do you have any recommendations?

          So far, at the top of my list I have:

          @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

          plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

          Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

          dataknightmare@mastodon.xyzD This user is from outside of this forum
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          dataknightmare@mastodon.xyz
          wrote last edited by
          #66

          @_elena
          Outside of academia, yours truly was likely one of the first ones.

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          • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

            @_elena @kawunngg Thank you!

            The sentence that inspired most of my humble resistance, was the one I read by the author of Nepenthes:

            “I’m just fed up, and you know what? Let’s fight back, even if it’s not successful. Be indigestible. Grow spikes.”

            (src: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/01/ai-haters-build-tarpits-to-trap-and-trick-ai-scrapers-that-ignore-robots-txt/ )

            mkj@social.mkj.earthM This user is from outside of this forum
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            #67

            @davidrevoy Let's all make something imperfect, as an act of resistance. 🦜

            🙂

            @_elena @kawunngg

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            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

              Dear Fedi friends,

              I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

              Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

              Do you have any recommendations?

              So far, at the top of my list I have:

              @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

              plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

              Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

              dataknightmare@mastodon.xyzD This user is from outside of this forum
              dataknightmare@mastodon.xyzD This user is from outside of this forum
              dataknightmare@mastodon.xyz
              wrote last edited by
              #68

              @_elena also consider David Gerard @davidgerard (his wonderful Pivot to AI podcast is a gem)

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              • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                @_elena @kawunngg Thank you!

                The sentence that inspired most of my humble resistance, was the one I read by the author of Nepenthes:

                “I’m just fed up, and you know what? Let’s fight back, even if it’s not successful. Be indigestible. Grow spikes.”

                (src: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/01/ai-haters-build-tarpits-to-trap-and-trick-ai-scrapers-that-ignore-robots-txt/ )

                707kat@mastodon.art7 This user is from outside of this forum
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                wrote last edited by
                #69

                @davidrevoy Been a fan since I first saw your beautiful illustrations on @Framasoft years back and your comic contributions and words in the fight against Loud Literal Machines TM has made me smile so much.

                Thank you, David!

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                • ckl@ioc.exchangeC ckl@ioc.exchange

                  @_elena @jwildeboer @jan
                  I had the very same idea for such a story as well, although apparently vi is out of scope now
                  https://ioc.exchange/@CKL/116161896679343123

                  zipkid@gts.solfood.beZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #70

                  @CKL #EVi to the rescue! https://mastodon.social/@mrmasterkeyboard/116206795065369412

                  @_elena @jwildeboer @jan

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                  • romuald@piaille.frR romuald@piaille.fr

                    @_elena Pas immédiatement l’IA, mais sur la matérialité du numérique et des centres de données il y a @lenuageetaitsousnospieds et @tunubesecamirio . @Aepasek a publié une très bonne brochure sur comment résister aux datacenters, et sur la géopolitique du numérique je ne peux que conseiller le livre de @opheliecoelho ! @dataforgood fait du bon boulot également 👍

                    aepasek@scholar.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    wrote last edited by
                    #71

                    @romuald @_elena @lenuageetaitsousnospieds @tunubesecamirio @opheliecoelho @dataforgood

                    merci!

                    Si un veux le lire: https://emmlab.info/Resources_page/Lutter%20contre%20les%20data%20centers.pdf

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                    • aepasek@scholar.socialA aepasek@scholar.social

                      @romuald @_elena @lenuageetaitsousnospieds @tunubesecamirio @opheliecoelho @dataforgood

                      merci!

                      Si un veux le lire: https://emmlab.info/Resources_page/Lutter%20contre%20les%20data%20centers.pdf

                      _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #72

                      @Aepasek merci Anne !

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                      • dataknightmare@mastodon.xyzD dataknightmare@mastodon.xyz

                        @_elena also consider David Gerard @davidgerard (his wonderful Pivot to AI podcast is a gem)

                        _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #73

                        @DataKnightmare thanks! putting you both on my list 🙏

                        P.S.: your SUPERB podcast is really my favorite these days... I wish everyone spoke Italian so they could enjoy it 🥲

                        @davidgerard

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                        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                          @_elena @kawunngg Thank you!

                          The sentence that inspired most of my humble resistance, was the one I read by the author of Nepenthes:

                          “I’m just fed up, and you know what? Let’s fight back, even if it’s not successful. Be indigestible. Grow spikes.”

                          (src: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/01/ai-haters-build-tarpits-to-trap-and-trick-ai-scrapers-that-ignore-robots-txt/ )

                          _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @davidrevoy awww I LOVE this quote. Thanks for sharing David!!! And taking this opportunity to thank you for your extraordinary work

                          @kawunngg

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                          • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                            @esi @_elena henlo 👋

                            I also write critically about tech, including "AI", for Polish media, specifically OKO.press:
                            https://oko.press/autor/michal-rysiek-wozniak

                            Some relevant examples:
                            https://oko.press/sztuczna-inteligencja-prace-nam-zabiera-czy-to-tylko-bajera
                            https://oko.press/chinski-deepseek-upuscil-powietrza-z-amerykanskiej-banki-ai-co-teraz
                            https://oko.press/ai-nie-rozwiaze-kryzysu-klimatycznego

                            _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @rysiek of course I should have already thought of you. Adding you to the list! ❤️

                            @esi

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                            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                              Dear Fedi friends,

                              I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                              Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                              Do you have any recommendations?

                              So far, at the top of my list I have:

                              @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                              plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                              Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                              drewtowler@mas.toD This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante I'm a cloud app developer and I post from a fairly rabid anti-AI viewpoint sometimes - though whether that makes me recommendable I have no idea.

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                              • anildash@me.dmA anildash@me.dm

                                @Standard_Phil @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante I think they’re all real researchers, I’m just a commentator here.

                                _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #77

                                @anildash you 1000% belong to my list Anil ! And thanks @Standard_Phil for the suggestion

                                FYI Anil if you don't know @jaredwhite he has a superb podcast titled Vibe Coded ("about the perils & pitfalls of creative intellectual automation; and why the future of good Internet vibes is for the humans, by the humans") : https://jaredwhite.com/projects/

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                                • hikingdude@mastodon.socialH hikingdude@mastodon.social

                                  @_elena
                                  That's difficult.
                                  Aislop and hype are one side, there are good uses for it as well. So, just blaming LLMs feels like blaming a knife for murder.

                                  justin@social.younger.wtfJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #78

                                  @hikingdude @_elena smoking a cigarette feels good but it's still bad and we should talk about it being bad all the time and never say good things about it

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