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  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

    Dear Fedi friends,

    I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

    Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

    Do you have any recommendations?

    So far, at the top of my list I have:

    @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

    plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

    Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

    glamcode@openbiblio.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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    glamcode@openbiblio.social
    wrote last edited by
    #58

    @_elena I have a “Critical AI reading list” on Mastodon that contains among others and among the ones you listed:

    - @baldur
    - @RainerMuehlhoff
    - @Weizenbaum_Institut
    - @olivia
    - @quinta
    - @lapcatsoftware
    - @dylan

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    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

      Dear Fedi friends,

      I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

      Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

      Do you have any recommendations?

      So far, at the top of my list I have:

      @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

      plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

      Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

      brib@disabled.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
      brib@disabled.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
      brib@disabled.social
      wrote last edited by
      #59

      @_elena I'm noisy enough about it to release a slopfree index and blog about it a bit, although I try (only semi-successfully) to balance out my feed with stuff that isn't AI

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      • glamcode@openbiblio.socialG glamcode@openbiblio.social

        @_elena I have a “Critical AI reading list” on Mastodon that contains among others and among the ones you listed:

        - @baldur
        - @RainerMuehlhoff
        - @Weizenbaum_Institut
        - @olivia
        - @quinta
        - @lapcatsoftware
        - @dylan

        lapcatsoftware@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote last edited by
        #60

        @glamcode @_elena Don’t read me! I don’t even pretend to be an expert. I just rant sometimes. 😉

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        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

          @davidgerard THANK YOU!!!

          kimcrawley@zeroes.caK This user is from outside of this forum
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          #61

          @_elena @davidgerard ❤️

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          • esi@merveilles.townE esi@merveilles.town

            @_elena You might want to check out @rysiek and his blog at https://rys.io/en/index.html

            rysiek@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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            #62

            @esi @_elena henlo 👋

            I also write critically about tech, including "AI", for Polish media, specifically OKO.press:
            https://oko.press/autor/michal-rysiek-wozniak

            Some relevant examples:
            https://oko.press/sztuczna-inteligencja-prace-nam-zabiera-czy-to-tylko-bajera
            https://oko.press/chinski-deepseek-upuscil-powietrza-z-amerykanskiej-banki-ai-co-teraz
            https://oko.press/ai-nie-rozwiaze-kryzysu-klimatycznego

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            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

              @kawunngg YES of course!!! I LOVE his work ❤️

              @davidrevoy

              davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote last edited by
              #63

              @_elena @kawunngg Thank you!

              The sentence that inspired most of my humble resistance, was the one I read by the author of Nepenthes:

              “I’m just fed up, and you know what? Let’s fight back, even if it’s not successful. Be indigestible. Grow spikes.”

              (src: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/01/ai-haters-build-tarpits-to-trap-and-trick-ai-scrapers-that-ignore-robots-txt/ )

              mkj@social.mkj.earthM 707kat@mastodon.art7 _elena@mastodon.social_ 3 Replies Last reply
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              • lapcatsoftware@mastodon.socialL lapcatsoftware@mastodon.social

                @glamcode @_elena Don’t read me! I don’t even pretend to be an expert. I just rant sometimes. 😉

                glamcode@openbiblio.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                wrote last edited by
                #64

                @lapcatsoftware @_elena Ranting counts as „publicly resisting“ 😝

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                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                  Dear Fedi friends,

                  I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                  Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                  Do you have any recommendations?

                  So far, at the top of my list I have:

                  @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                  plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                  Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                  hikingdude@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                  hikingdude@mastodon.social
                  wrote last edited by
                  #65

                  @_elena
                  That's difficult.
                  Aislop and hype are one side, there are good uses for it as well. So, just blaming LLMs feels like blaming a knife for murder.

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                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                    Dear Fedi friends,

                    I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                    Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                    Do you have any recommendations?

                    So far, at the top of my list I have:

                    @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                    plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                    Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                    dataknightmare@mastodon.xyzD This user is from outside of this forum
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                    dataknightmare@mastodon.xyz
                    wrote last edited by
                    #66

                    @_elena
                    Outside of academia, yours truly was likely one of the first ones.

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                    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                      @_elena @kawunngg Thank you!

                      The sentence that inspired most of my humble resistance, was the one I read by the author of Nepenthes:

                      “I’m just fed up, and you know what? Let’s fight back, even if it’s not successful. Be indigestible. Grow spikes.”

                      (src: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/01/ai-haters-build-tarpits-to-trap-and-trick-ai-scrapers-that-ignore-robots-txt/ )

                      mkj@social.mkj.earthM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #67

                      @davidrevoy Let's all make something imperfect, as an act of resistance. 🦜

                      🙂

                      @_elena @kawunngg

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                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                        Dear Fedi friends,

                        I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                        Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                        Do you have any recommendations?

                        So far, at the top of my list I have:

                        @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                        plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                        Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                        dataknightmare@mastodon.xyzD This user is from outside of this forum
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                        dataknightmare@mastodon.xyz
                        wrote last edited by
                        #68

                        @_elena also consider David Gerard @davidgerard (his wonderful Pivot to AI podcast is a gem)

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                        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                          @_elena @kawunngg Thank you!

                          The sentence that inspired most of my humble resistance, was the one I read by the author of Nepenthes:

                          “I’m just fed up, and you know what? Let’s fight back, even if it’s not successful. Be indigestible. Grow spikes.”

                          (src: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/01/ai-haters-build-tarpits-to-trap-and-trick-ai-scrapers-that-ignore-robots-txt/ )

                          707kat@mastodon.art7 This user is from outside of this forum
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                          wrote last edited by
                          #69

                          @davidrevoy Been a fan since I first saw your beautiful illustrations on @Framasoft years back and your comic contributions and words in the fight against Loud Literal Machines TM has made me smile so much.

                          Thank you, David!

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                          • ckl@ioc.exchangeC ckl@ioc.exchange

                            @_elena @jwildeboer @jan
                            I had the very same idea for such a story as well, although apparently vi is out of scope now
                            https://ioc.exchange/@CKL/116161896679343123

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                            @CKL #EVi to the rescue! https://mastodon.social/@mrmasterkeyboard/116206795065369412

                            @_elena @jwildeboer @jan

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                            • romuald@piaille.frR romuald@piaille.fr

                              @_elena Pas immédiatement l’IA, mais sur la matérialité du numérique et des centres de données il y a @lenuageetaitsousnospieds et @tunubesecamirio . @Aepasek a publié une très bonne brochure sur comment résister aux datacenters, et sur la géopolitique du numérique je ne peux que conseiller le livre de @opheliecoelho ! @dataforgood fait du bon boulot également 👍

                              aepasek@scholar.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                              wrote last edited by
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                              @romuald @_elena @lenuageetaitsousnospieds @tunubesecamirio @opheliecoelho @dataforgood

                              merci!

                              Si un veux le lire: https://emmlab.info/Resources_page/Lutter%20contre%20les%20data%20centers.pdf

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                              • aepasek@scholar.socialA aepasek@scholar.social

                                @romuald @_elena @lenuageetaitsousnospieds @tunubesecamirio @opheliecoelho @dataforgood

                                merci!

                                Si un veux le lire: https://emmlab.info/Resources_page/Lutter%20contre%20les%20data%20centers.pdf

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                                @Aepasek merci Anne !

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                                • dataknightmare@mastodon.xyzD dataknightmare@mastodon.xyz

                                  @_elena also consider David Gerard @davidgerard (his wonderful Pivot to AI podcast is a gem)

                                  _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #73

                                  @DataKnightmare thanks! putting you both on my list 🙏

                                  P.S.: your SUPERB podcast is really my favorite these days... I wish everyone spoke Italian so they could enjoy it 🥲

                                  @davidgerard

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                                  • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                    @_elena @kawunngg Thank you!

                                    The sentence that inspired most of my humble resistance, was the one I read by the author of Nepenthes:

                                    “I’m just fed up, and you know what? Let’s fight back, even if it’s not successful. Be indigestible. Grow spikes.”

                                    (src: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/01/ai-haters-build-tarpits-to-trap-and-trick-ai-scrapers-that-ignore-robots-txt/ )

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                                    @davidrevoy awww I LOVE this quote. Thanks for sharing David!!! And taking this opportunity to thank you for your extraordinary work

                                    @kawunngg

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                                    • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                                      @esi @_elena henlo 👋

                                      I also write critically about tech, including "AI", for Polish media, specifically OKO.press:
                                      https://oko.press/autor/michal-rysiek-wozniak

                                      Some relevant examples:
                                      https://oko.press/sztuczna-inteligencja-prace-nam-zabiera-czy-to-tylko-bajera
                                      https://oko.press/chinski-deepseek-upuscil-powietrza-z-amerykanskiej-banki-ai-co-teraz
                                      https://oko.press/ai-nie-rozwiaze-kryzysu-klimatycznego

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                                      @rysiek of course I should have already thought of you. Adding you to the list! ❤️

                                      @esi

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                                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                        Dear Fedi friends,

                                        I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                                        Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                                        Do you have any recommendations?

                                        So far, at the top of my list I have:

                                        @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                                        plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                                        Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                                        drewtowler@mas.toD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #76

                                        @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante I'm a cloud app developer and I post from a fairly rabid anti-AI viewpoint sometimes - though whether that makes me recommendable I have no idea.

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                                        • anildash@me.dmA anildash@me.dm

                                          @Standard_Phil @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante I think they’re all real researchers, I’m just a commentator here.

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                                          @anildash you 1000% belong to my list Anil ! And thanks @Standard_Phil for the suggestion

                                          FYI Anil if you don't know @jaredwhite he has a superb podcast titled Vibe Coded ("about the perils & pitfalls of creative intellectual automation; and why the future of good Internet vibes is for the humans, by the humans") : https://jaredwhite.com/projects/

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