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  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

    @onepict @WeirdWriter thank you for the great recommendation!

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    #49

    @_elena I should also toot my own horn ☺️:

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    • fmarini@mastodon.socialF fmarini@mastodon.social

      @jwildeboer @_elena @jan just read a wonderful piece on literature and LLMs, which has a part that is eerily similar to your idea 😁

      I think you might like it ☺️

      The Colonization of Confidence., Sightless Scribbles

      A fabulously gay blind author.

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      (sightlessscribbles.com)

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      #50

      @fmarini Yes, I read (and shared) that too the day it was published 🙂 @_elena @jan

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      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

        Dear Fedi friends,

        I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

        Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

        Do you have any recommendations?

        So far, at the top of my list I have:

        @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

        plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

        Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

        standard_phil@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote last edited by
        #51

        @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante Anil Dash @anildash belongs on your list, I think.

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        • onepunchmango@radikal.socialO onepunchmango@radikal.social

          @707Kat they argue and explain heavily against their usage and limitations in most things, and eloquently so. It's a good way both to keep up with* recent developments, learn, and get the vocabluary to talk about it with other people.

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          wrote last edited by
          #52

          @onepunchmango I'm aware of what the EFF do. I'm not saying they don't do a lot of good. However, they are not against LLMs and up until recently they were positive about its usage. Even though the technology inherently relies on voiding people's privacy. For the longest time they cheered on it as a way to beat Copyright and boost free information, ignoring people who tried to explain why it would be damaging.

          Try taking a look at how this page has changed this month:
          https://web.archive.org/web/20260000000000*/https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/02/effs-policy-llm-assisted-contributions-our-open-source-projects

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          • standard_phil@infosec.exchangeS standard_phil@infosec.exchange

            @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante Anil Dash @anildash belongs on your list, I think.

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            #53

            @Standard_Phil @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante I think they’re all real researchers, I’m just a commentator here.

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            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

              Dear Fedi friends,

              I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

              Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

              Do you have any recommendations?

              So far, at the top of my list I have:

              @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

              plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

              Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

              esi@merveilles.townE This user is from outside of this forum
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              esi@merveilles.town
              wrote last edited by
              #54

              @_elena You might want to check out @rysiek and his blog at https://rys.io/en/index.html

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              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                Dear Fedi friends,

                I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                Do you have any recommendations?

                So far, at the top of my list I have:

                @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                eivind@mastodon.fjerland.noE This user is from outside of this forum
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                eivind@mastodon.fjerland.no
                wrote last edited by
                #55

                @_elena I certainly don't expect to be on such a list, but I sympahtise, and I am of course strongly opposed to LLMs. I think you got good suggestions already, so I'll just chime in to say I agree.

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                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                  Dear Fedi friends,

                  I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                  Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                  Do you have any recommendations?

                  So far, at the top of my list I have:

                  @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                  plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                  Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                  onepict@chaos.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote last edited by
                  #56

                  @_elena We also have projects that are explicitly not accepting AI like @gentoo .

                  We also have folk like @xgranade who is working on a fork of calibre. Which I am very grateful for.

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                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                    Dear Fedi friends,

                    I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                    Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                    Do you have any recommendations?

                    So far, at the top of my list I have:

                    @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                    plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                    Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                    fasterandworse@hci.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                    wrote last edited by
                    #57

                    @_elena @zzt @davidgerard @froztbyte @kimcrawley / @crowgirl

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                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                      Dear Fedi friends,

                      I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                      Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                      Do you have any recommendations?

                      So far, at the top of my list I have:

                      @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                      plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                      Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                      glamcode@openbiblio.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                      wrote last edited by
                      #58

                      @_elena I have a “Critical AI reading list” on Mastodon that contains among others and among the ones you listed:

                      - @baldur
                      - @RainerMuehlhoff
                      - @Weizenbaum_Institut
                      - @olivia
                      - @quinta
                      - @lapcatsoftware
                      - @dylan

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                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                        Dear Fedi friends,

                        I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                        Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                        Do you have any recommendations?

                        So far, at the top of my list I have:

                        @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                        plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                        Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                        brib@disabled.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                        wrote last edited by
                        #59

                        @_elena I'm noisy enough about it to release a slopfree index and blog about it a bit, although I try (only semi-successfully) to balance out my feed with stuff that isn't AI

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                        • glamcode@openbiblio.socialG glamcode@openbiblio.social

                          @_elena I have a “Critical AI reading list” on Mastodon that contains among others and among the ones you listed:

                          - @baldur
                          - @RainerMuehlhoff
                          - @Weizenbaum_Institut
                          - @olivia
                          - @quinta
                          - @lapcatsoftware
                          - @dylan

                          lapcatsoftware@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                          wrote last edited by
                          #60

                          @glamcode @_elena Don’t read me! I don’t even pretend to be an expert. I just rant sometimes. 😉

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                          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                            @davidgerard THANK YOU!!!

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                            #61

                            @_elena @davidgerard ❤️

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                            • esi@merveilles.townE esi@merveilles.town

                              @_elena You might want to check out @rysiek and his blog at https://rys.io/en/index.html

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                              #62

                              @esi @_elena henlo 👋

                              I also write critically about tech, including "AI", for Polish media, specifically OKO.press:
                              https://oko.press/autor/michal-rysiek-wozniak

                              Some relevant examples:
                              https://oko.press/sztuczna-inteligencja-prace-nam-zabiera-czy-to-tylko-bajera
                              https://oko.press/chinski-deepseek-upuscil-powietrza-z-amerykanskiej-banki-ai-co-teraz
                              https://oko.press/ai-nie-rozwiaze-kryzysu-klimatycznego

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                              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                @kawunngg YES of course!!! I LOVE his work ❤️

                                @davidrevoy

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                                wrote last edited by
                                #63

                                @_elena @kawunngg Thank you!

                                The sentence that inspired most of my humble resistance, was the one I read by the author of Nepenthes:

                                “I’m just fed up, and you know what? Let’s fight back, even if it’s not successful. Be indigestible. Grow spikes.”

                                (src: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/01/ai-haters-build-tarpits-to-trap-and-trick-ai-scrapers-that-ignore-robots-txt/ )

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                                • lapcatsoftware@mastodon.socialL lapcatsoftware@mastodon.social

                                  @glamcode @_elena Don’t read me! I don’t even pretend to be an expert. I just rant sometimes. 😉

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                                  #64

                                  @lapcatsoftware @_elena Ranting counts as „publicly resisting“ 😝

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                                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                    Dear Fedi friends,

                                    I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                                    Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                                    Do you have any recommendations?

                                    So far, at the top of my list I have:

                                    @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                                    plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                                    Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                                    hikingdude@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #65

                                    @_elena
                                    That's difficult.
                                    Aislop and hype are one side, there are good uses for it as well. So, just blaming LLMs feels like blaming a knife for murder.

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                                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                      Dear Fedi friends,

                                      I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                                      Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                                      Do you have any recommendations?

                                      So far, at the top of my list I have:

                                      @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                                      plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                                      Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                                      dataknightmare@mastodon.xyzD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #66

                                      @_elena
                                      Outside of academia, yours truly was likely one of the first ones.

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                                      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                        @_elena @kawunngg Thank you!

                                        The sentence that inspired most of my humble resistance, was the one I read by the author of Nepenthes:

                                        “I’m just fed up, and you know what? Let’s fight back, even if it’s not successful. Be indigestible. Grow spikes.”

                                        (src: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/01/ai-haters-build-tarpits-to-trap-and-trick-ai-scrapers-that-ignore-robots-txt/ )

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                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #67

                                        @davidrevoy Let's all make something imperfect, as an act of resistance. 🦜

                                        🙂

                                        @_elena @kawunngg

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                                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                          Dear Fedi friends,

                                          I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                                          Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                                          Do you have any recommendations?

                                          So far, at the top of my list I have:

                                          @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                                          plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                                          Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                                          dataknightmare@mastodon.xyzD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #68

                                          @_elena also consider David Gerard @davidgerard (his wonderful Pivot to AI podcast is a gem)

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