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  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

    Dear Fedi friends,

    I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

    Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

    Do you have any recommendations?

    So far, at the top of my list I have:

    @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

    plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

    Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

    hikingdude@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
    hikingdude@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
    hikingdude@mastodon.social
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    #65

    @_elena
    That's difficult.
    Aislop and hype are one side, there are good uses for it as well. So, just blaming LLMs feels like blaming a knife for murder.

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    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

      Dear Fedi friends,

      I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

      Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

      Do you have any recommendations?

      So far, at the top of my list I have:

      @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

      plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

      Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

      dataknightmare@mastodon.xyzD This user is from outside of this forum
      dataknightmare@mastodon.xyzD This user is from outside of this forum
      dataknightmare@mastodon.xyz
      wrote last edited by
      #66

      @_elena
      Outside of academia, yours truly was likely one of the first ones.

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      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

        @_elena @kawunngg Thank you!

        The sentence that inspired most of my humble resistance, was the one I read by the author of Nepenthes:

        “I’m just fed up, and you know what? Let’s fight back, even if it’s not successful. Be indigestible. Grow spikes.”

        (src: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/01/ai-haters-build-tarpits-to-trap-and-trick-ai-scrapers-that-ignore-robots-txt/ )

        mkj@social.mkj.earthM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #67

        @davidrevoy Let's all make something imperfect, as an act of resistance. 🦜

        🙂

        @_elena @kawunngg

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        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

          Dear Fedi friends,

          I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

          Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

          Do you have any recommendations?

          So far, at the top of my list I have:

          @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

          plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

          Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

          dataknightmare@mastodon.xyzD This user is from outside of this forum
          dataknightmare@mastodon.xyzD This user is from outside of this forum
          dataknightmare@mastodon.xyz
          wrote last edited by
          #68

          @_elena also consider David Gerard @davidgerard (his wonderful Pivot to AI podcast is a gem)

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          • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

            @_elena @kawunngg Thank you!

            The sentence that inspired most of my humble resistance, was the one I read by the author of Nepenthes:

            “I’m just fed up, and you know what? Let’s fight back, even if it’s not successful. Be indigestible. Grow spikes.”

            (src: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/01/ai-haters-build-tarpits-to-trap-and-trick-ai-scrapers-that-ignore-robots-txt/ )

            707kat@mastodon.art7 This user is from outside of this forum
            707kat@mastodon.art7 This user is from outside of this forum
            707kat@mastodon.art
            wrote last edited by
            #69

            @davidrevoy Been a fan since I first saw your beautiful illustrations on @Framasoft years back and your comic contributions and words in the fight against Loud Literal Machines TM has made me smile so much.

            Thank you, David!

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            • ckl@ioc.exchangeC ckl@ioc.exchange

              @_elena @jwildeboer @jan
              I had the very same idea for such a story as well, although apparently vi is out of scope now
              https://ioc.exchange/@CKL/116161896679343123

              zipkid@gts.solfood.beZ This user is from outside of this forum
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              #70

              @CKL #EVi to the rescue! https://mastodon.social/@mrmasterkeyboard/116206795065369412

              @_elena @jwildeboer @jan

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              • romuald@piaille.frR romuald@piaille.fr

                @_elena Pas immédiatement l’IA, mais sur la matérialité du numérique et des centres de données il y a @lenuageetaitsousnospieds et @tunubesecamirio . @Aepasek a publié une très bonne brochure sur comment résister aux datacenters, et sur la géopolitique du numérique je ne peux que conseiller le livre de @opheliecoelho ! @dataforgood fait du bon boulot également 👍

                aepasek@scholar.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
                aepasek@scholar.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
                aepasek@scholar.social
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                #71

                @romuald @_elena @lenuageetaitsousnospieds @tunubesecamirio @opheliecoelho @dataforgood

                merci!

                Si un veux le lire: https://emmlab.info/Resources_page/Lutter%20contre%20les%20data%20centers.pdf

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                • aepasek@scholar.socialA aepasek@scholar.social

                  @romuald @_elena @lenuageetaitsousnospieds @tunubesecamirio @opheliecoelho @dataforgood

                  merci!

                  Si un veux le lire: https://emmlab.info/Resources_page/Lutter%20contre%20les%20data%20centers.pdf

                  _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #72

                  @Aepasek merci Anne !

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                  • dataknightmare@mastodon.xyzD dataknightmare@mastodon.xyz

                    @_elena also consider David Gerard @davidgerard (his wonderful Pivot to AI podcast is a gem)

                    _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #73

                    @DataKnightmare thanks! putting you both on my list 🙏

                    P.S.: your SUPERB podcast is really my favorite these days... I wish everyone spoke Italian so they could enjoy it 🥲

                    @davidgerard

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                    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                      @_elena @kawunngg Thank you!

                      The sentence that inspired most of my humble resistance, was the one I read by the author of Nepenthes:

                      “I’m just fed up, and you know what? Let’s fight back, even if it’s not successful. Be indigestible. Grow spikes.”

                      (src: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/01/ai-haters-build-tarpits-to-trap-and-trick-ai-scrapers-that-ignore-robots-txt/ )

                      _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #74

                      @davidrevoy awww I LOVE this quote. Thanks for sharing David!!! And taking this opportunity to thank you for your extraordinary work

                      @kawunngg

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                      • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                        @esi @_elena henlo 👋

                        I also write critically about tech, including "AI", for Polish media, specifically OKO.press:
                        https://oko.press/autor/michal-rysiek-wozniak

                        Some relevant examples:
                        https://oko.press/sztuczna-inteligencja-prace-nam-zabiera-czy-to-tylko-bajera
                        https://oko.press/chinski-deepseek-upuscil-powietrza-z-amerykanskiej-banki-ai-co-teraz
                        https://oko.press/ai-nie-rozwiaze-kryzysu-klimatycznego

                        _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #75

                        @rysiek of course I should have already thought of you. Adding you to the list! ❤️

                        @esi

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                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                          Dear Fedi friends,

                          I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                          Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                          Do you have any recommendations?

                          So far, at the top of my list I have:

                          @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                          plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                          Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                          drewtowler@mas.toD This user is from outside of this forum
                          drewtowler@mas.toD This user is from outside of this forum
                          drewtowler@mas.to
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                          #76

                          @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante I'm a cloud app developer and I post from a fairly rabid anti-AI viewpoint sometimes - though whether that makes me recommendable I have no idea.

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                          • anildash@me.dmA anildash@me.dm

                            @Standard_Phil @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante I think they’re all real researchers, I’m just a commentator here.

                            _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                            _elena@mastodon.social
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                            #77

                            @anildash you 1000% belong to my list Anil ! And thanks @Standard_Phil for the suggestion

                            FYI Anil if you don't know @jaredwhite he has a superb podcast titled Vibe Coded ("about the perils & pitfalls of creative intellectual automation; and why the future of good Internet vibes is for the humans, by the humans") : https://jaredwhite.com/projects/

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                            • hikingdude@mastodon.socialH hikingdude@mastodon.social

                              @_elena
                              That's difficult.
                              Aislop and hype are one side, there are good uses for it as well. So, just blaming LLMs feels like blaming a knife for murder.

                              justin@social.younger.wtfJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #78

                              @hikingdude @_elena smoking a cigarette feels good but it's still bad and we should talk about it being bad all the time and never say good things about it

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