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  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

    Dear Fedi friends,

    I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

    Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

    Do you have any recommendations?

    So far, at the top of my list I have:

    @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

    plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

    Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

    brib@disabled.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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    wrote last edited by
    #59

    @_elena I'm noisy enough about it to release a slopfree index and blog about it a bit, although I try (only semi-successfully) to balance out my feed with stuff that isn't AI

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    • glamcode@openbiblio.socialG glamcode@openbiblio.social

      @_elena I have a “Critical AI reading list” on Mastodon that contains among others and among the ones you listed:

      - @baldur
      - @RainerMuehlhoff
      - @Weizenbaum_Institut
      - @olivia
      - @quinta
      - @lapcatsoftware
      - @dylan

      lapcatsoftware@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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      @glamcode @_elena Don’t read me! I don’t even pretend to be an expert. I just rant sometimes. 😉

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      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

        @davidgerard THANK YOU!!!

        kimcrawley@zeroes.caK This user is from outside of this forum
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        @_elena @davidgerard ❤️

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        • esi@merveilles.townE esi@merveilles.town

          @_elena You might want to check out @rysiek and his blog at https://rys.io/en/index.html

          rysiek@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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          @esi @_elena henlo 👋

          I also write critically about tech, including "AI", for Polish media, specifically OKO.press:
          https://oko.press/autor/michal-rysiek-wozniak

          Some relevant examples:
          https://oko.press/sztuczna-inteligencja-prace-nam-zabiera-czy-to-tylko-bajera
          https://oko.press/chinski-deepseek-upuscil-powietrza-z-amerykanskiej-banki-ai-co-teraz
          https://oko.press/ai-nie-rozwiaze-kryzysu-klimatycznego

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          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

            @kawunngg YES of course!!! I LOVE his work ❤️

            @davidrevoy

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            @_elena @kawunngg Thank you!

            The sentence that inspired most of my humble resistance, was the one I read by the author of Nepenthes:

            “I’m just fed up, and you know what? Let’s fight back, even if it’s not successful. Be indigestible. Grow spikes.”

            (src: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/01/ai-haters-build-tarpits-to-trap-and-trick-ai-scrapers-that-ignore-robots-txt/ )

            mkj@social.mkj.earthM 707kat@mastodon.art7 _elena@mastodon.social_ 3 Replies Last reply
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            • lapcatsoftware@mastodon.socialL lapcatsoftware@mastodon.social

              @glamcode @_elena Don’t read me! I don’t even pretend to be an expert. I just rant sometimes. 😉

              glamcode@openbiblio.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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              @lapcatsoftware @_elena Ranting counts as „publicly resisting“ 😝

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              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                Dear Fedi friends,

                I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                Do you have any recommendations?

                So far, at the top of my list I have:

                @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                hikingdude@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                #65

                @_elena
                That's difficult.
                Aislop and hype are one side, there are good uses for it as well. So, just blaming LLMs feels like blaming a knife for murder.

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                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                  Dear Fedi friends,

                  I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                  Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                  Do you have any recommendations?

                  So far, at the top of my list I have:

                  @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                  plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                  Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                  dataknightmare@mastodon.xyzD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  dataknightmare@mastodon.xyz
                  wrote last edited by
                  #66

                  @_elena
                  Outside of academia, yours truly was likely one of the first ones.

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                  • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                    @_elena @kawunngg Thank you!

                    The sentence that inspired most of my humble resistance, was the one I read by the author of Nepenthes:

                    “I’m just fed up, and you know what? Let’s fight back, even if it’s not successful. Be indigestible. Grow spikes.”

                    (src: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/01/ai-haters-build-tarpits-to-trap-and-trick-ai-scrapers-that-ignore-robots-txt/ )

                    mkj@social.mkj.earthM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @davidrevoy Let's all make something imperfect, as an act of resistance. 🦜

                    🙂

                    @_elena @kawunngg

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                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                      Dear Fedi friends,

                      I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                      Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                      Do you have any recommendations?

                      So far, at the top of my list I have:

                      @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                      plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                      Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                      dataknightmare@mastodon.xyzD This user is from outside of this forum
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                      dataknightmare@mastodon.xyz
                      wrote last edited by
                      #68

                      @_elena also consider David Gerard @davidgerard (his wonderful Pivot to AI podcast is a gem)

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                      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                        @_elena @kawunngg Thank you!

                        The sentence that inspired most of my humble resistance, was the one I read by the author of Nepenthes:

                        “I’m just fed up, and you know what? Let’s fight back, even if it’s not successful. Be indigestible. Grow spikes.”

                        (src: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/01/ai-haters-build-tarpits-to-trap-and-trick-ai-scrapers-that-ignore-robots-txt/ )

                        707kat@mastodon.art7 This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @davidrevoy Been a fan since I first saw your beautiful illustrations on @Framasoft years back and your comic contributions and words in the fight against Loud Literal Machines TM has made me smile so much.

                        Thank you, David!

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                        • ckl@ioc.exchangeC ckl@ioc.exchange

                          @_elena @jwildeboer @jan
                          I had the very same idea for such a story as well, although apparently vi is out of scope now
                          https://ioc.exchange/@CKL/116161896679343123

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                          @CKL #EVi to the rescue! https://mastodon.social/@mrmasterkeyboard/116206795065369412

                          @_elena @jwildeboer @jan

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                          • romuald@piaille.frR romuald@piaille.fr

                            @_elena Pas immédiatement l’IA, mais sur la matérialité du numérique et des centres de données il y a @lenuageetaitsousnospieds et @tunubesecamirio . @Aepasek a publié une très bonne brochure sur comment résister aux datacenters, et sur la géopolitique du numérique je ne peux que conseiller le livre de @opheliecoelho ! @dataforgood fait du bon boulot également 👍

                            aepasek@scholar.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @romuald @_elena @lenuageetaitsousnospieds @tunubesecamirio @opheliecoelho @dataforgood

                            merci!

                            Si un veux le lire: https://emmlab.info/Resources_page/Lutter%20contre%20les%20data%20centers.pdf

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                            • aepasek@scholar.socialA aepasek@scholar.social

                              @romuald @_elena @lenuageetaitsousnospieds @tunubesecamirio @opheliecoelho @dataforgood

                              merci!

                              Si un veux le lire: https://emmlab.info/Resources_page/Lutter%20contre%20les%20data%20centers.pdf

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                              @Aepasek merci Anne !

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                              • dataknightmare@mastodon.xyzD dataknightmare@mastodon.xyz

                                @_elena also consider David Gerard @davidgerard (his wonderful Pivot to AI podcast is a gem)

                                _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @DataKnightmare thanks! putting you both on my list 🙏

                                P.S.: your SUPERB podcast is really my favorite these days... I wish everyone spoke Italian so they could enjoy it 🥲

                                @davidgerard

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                                • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                  @_elena @kawunngg Thank you!

                                  The sentence that inspired most of my humble resistance, was the one I read by the author of Nepenthes:

                                  “I’m just fed up, and you know what? Let’s fight back, even if it’s not successful. Be indigestible. Grow spikes.”

                                  (src: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/01/ai-haters-build-tarpits-to-trap-and-trick-ai-scrapers-that-ignore-robots-txt/ )

                                  _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @davidrevoy awww I LOVE this quote. Thanks for sharing David!!! And taking this opportunity to thank you for your extraordinary work

                                  @kawunngg

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                                  • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                                    @esi @_elena henlo 👋

                                    I also write critically about tech, including "AI", for Polish media, specifically OKO.press:
                                    https://oko.press/autor/michal-rysiek-wozniak

                                    Some relevant examples:
                                    https://oko.press/sztuczna-inteligencja-prace-nam-zabiera-czy-to-tylko-bajera
                                    https://oko.press/chinski-deepseek-upuscil-powietrza-z-amerykanskiej-banki-ai-co-teraz
                                    https://oko.press/ai-nie-rozwiaze-kryzysu-klimatycznego

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                                    @rysiek of course I should have already thought of you. Adding you to the list! ❤️

                                    @esi

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                                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                      Dear Fedi friends,

                                      I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                                      Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                                      Do you have any recommendations?

                                      So far, at the top of my list I have:

                                      @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                                      plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                                      Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                                      drewtowler@mas.toD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante I'm a cloud app developer and I post from a fairly rabid anti-AI viewpoint sometimes - though whether that makes me recommendable I have no idea.

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                                      • anildash@me.dmA anildash@me.dm

                                        @Standard_Phil @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante I think they’re all real researchers, I’m just a commentator here.

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                                        @anildash you 1000% belong to my list Anil ! And thanks @Standard_Phil for the suggestion

                                        FYI Anil if you don't know @jaredwhite he has a superb podcast titled Vibe Coded ("about the perils & pitfalls of creative intellectual automation; and why the future of good Internet vibes is for the humans, by the humans") : https://jaredwhite.com/projects/

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                                        • hikingdude@mastodon.socialH hikingdude@mastodon.social

                                          @_elena
                                          That's difficult.
                                          Aislop and hype are one side, there are good uses for it as well. So, just blaming LLMs feels like blaming a knife for murder.

                                          justin@social.younger.wtfJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #78

                                          @hikingdude @_elena smoking a cigarette feels good but it's still bad and we should talk about it being bad all the time and never say good things about it

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