@antares @sellathechemist @catsalad
There’s people who study just Lead Belly and I’m no expert

But I think Lead Belly’s only five known “windjammer” 🪗 recordings were made late in his life in the 40s by Mos Asch

They’re all on this set
https://folkways.si.edu/leadbelly

Not sure he owned an accordion when Alan Lomax knew him

He’d picked one up again, maybe in nostalgia for the instrument he learned first back in 1909

Or because he thought it would sell records? Who knows? Nobody asked

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@antares @sellathechemist @catsalad
Ironically all the folklorists wanted to hear was his Mexican 12 string guitar, which wasn’t traditional at all

They never asked about his little “windjammer” button accordion

Or the Black square-dance tradition it was played for that dated back to before the Civil War

And that his accordion style predated his 12 string guitar, and blues guitar in general

But nobody knew or thought to ask ‍️

@AccordionBruce @catsalad I loathed the accordion thanks to my parents. And then I discovered Astor Piazzolla’s writing for the bandoneon after buying a very cheap second hand CD of Gideon Kremer’s virtuoso band iut of curiosity. I was hooked. Then I found a cheap box set of all of Piazzolla playing/conducting. Libertango is just the tip of the iceberg.

@AccordionBruce @catsalad By the way, where is the Alan Lomax archive? A producer friend introduced me to it when we were Hutu g for music for a radio programme…

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@AccordionBruce @catsalad

And those Pirates you mention also didn't sing shanties; because they hadn't been invented yet.

Shanties were the work songs of merchant seamen from approx. the late 1820s and reported to be dying out in the late 1870s.

So, a 19th century working-class culture hijacked into "Pirate" fantasy-land.

PS. also, no, not every song mentioning the sea or sailors is a shanty.

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@AccordionBruce @sellathechemist @catsalad ow thank you for the correction and details ! One of my late friend - who wasn't a huge fan of Lomax - always reminded me that Leadbelly played the accordion but we never had a real discussion about that, and I sloppily assumed the few known recordings were done by Lomax.

@AccordionBruce @catsalad Wrong.

Pirates played accordions. And i can tell it's true cause i like it !

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@Steveg58 @catsalad
The timing lines up

(Ironically?) Before that, parts might have been made at great expense one at a time by watchmakers

When in my accordion research I finally found a timeline of the industrial production of sheet metal, that was a good day

@sellathechemist @catsalad
I didn’t know there was a box set of all #Piazzolla’s recordings?

I read one of his biographies, and talked to somebody who dealt with some of his manuscripts

It sounded like he just compulsively composed (for the money)

Discarding pieces like a Oblivion without intending to record them well for posterity

(They had to twist his arm on that one)

My acquaintance made it sound like there was so much material no one could ever deal with it
#tango #bandoneon

@sellathechemist @catsalad
Again not the expert

Lomax has a lot of recordings at the library of Congress
https://www.loc.gov/item/afc2004004.ms010201/

And other stuff here I believe
https://culturalequity.org/alan-lomax/friends/ledbetter/chronology

#FolkMusic

@sellathechemist @catsalad
I had a lot of fun with one of the more interesting chapters in my book I think, the somewhat Baffler-style trenchant, “The Folk Revival: The Accordion Betrayed”

I tried not to make fun of Alan Lomax and others too much. But at least one reader might have complained. Figures like him did so much good though they can take a ribbing

Wish I could’ve asked him about his accordion phobia though

@antares @sellathechemist @catsalad
Lomax is one of the people who did a lot, with a lot of help by people who deserve more credit

So like most “great men” he can take the criticisms

And if the work is valid the man will not mind

I don’t even really have that much problem with him

He seems to have been really opinionated, and wrong on some things, which led people to argue with him

But he’s dead now so we don’t have to yell about those same things anymore

That’s just science

@ecadre @AccordionBruce @catsalad

Well, wait a second... Dana reported work songs and shanties. And Hawai'ian long talk.

@ecadre @AccordionBruce @catsalad

Nope, checked my dates; Dana was 19th century; for some reason I think of him as 18th.