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  • accordionbruce@mastodon.socialA accordionbruce@mastodon.social

    @catsalad
    Pirates never played accordions
    🏴‍☠️🚫🪗

    (Because they hadn’t been invented yet)

    Accordions were invented during the 1800s Industrial Revolution at the same time as the telegraph, steam engine and the typewriter

    100 years after the Golden Age of Piracy 1600s–1700s

    So every pirate movie with an accordionist is a science fiction movie with a time-travel sub plot 🚀⌛️

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    @AccordionBruce @catsalad

    And those Pirates you mention also didn't sing shanties; because they hadn't been invented yet.

    Shanties were the work songs of merchant seamen from approx. the late 1820s and reported to be dying out in the late 1870s.

    So, a 19th century working-class culture hijacked into "Pirate" fantasy-land.

    PS. also, no, not every song mentioning the sea or sailors is a shanty.

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      @FurryBeta @pixmo @catsalad
      Yeah, blocked and reported.

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      @FritzAdalis @FurryBeta @pixmo @catsalad add me to this list please. Cats are pets for masochists who haven't discovered their kink yet.

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      • accordionbruce@mastodon.socialA accordionbruce@mastodon.social

        @antares @sellathechemist @catsalad
        Ironically all the folklorists wanted to hear was his Mexican 12 string guitar, which wasn’t traditional at all

        They never asked about his little “windjammer” button accordion

        Or the Black square-dance tradition it was played for that dated back to before the Civil War

        And that his accordion style predated his 12 string guitar, and blues guitar in general

        But nobody knew or thought to ask 🤷🏽‍♀️

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        @AccordionBruce @sellathechemist @catsalad ow thank you for the correction and details ! One of my late friend - who wasn't a huge fan of Lomax - always reminded me that Leadbelly played the accordion but we never had a real discussion about that, and I sloppily assumed the few known recordings were done by Lomax.

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        • accordionbruce@mastodon.socialA accordionbruce@mastodon.social

          @catsalad
          Pirates never played accordions
          🏴‍☠️🚫🪗

          (Because they hadn’t been invented yet)

          Accordions were invented during the 1800s Industrial Revolution at the same time as the telegraph, steam engine and the typewriter

          100 years after the Golden Age of Piracy 1600s–1700s

          So every pirate movie with an accordionist is a science fiction movie with a time-travel sub plot 🚀⌛️

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          #91

          @AccordionBruce @catsalad Wrong.

          Pirates played accordions. And i can tell it's true cause i like it ! 😠

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          • catsalad@infosec.exchangeC catsalad@infosec.exchange

            Tell me some thing blasphemous and/or sacrilegious

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              @Steveg58 @catsalad
              The timing lines up

              (Ironically?) Before that, parts might have been made at great expense one at a time by watchmakers

              When in my accordion research I finally found a timeline of the industrial production of sheet metal, that was a good day

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              • sellathechemist@mastodon.socialS sellathechemist@mastodon.social

                @AccordionBruce @catsalad I loathed the accordion thanks to my parents. And then I discovered Astor Piazzolla’s writing for the bandoneon after buying a very cheap second hand CD of Gideon Kremer’s virtuoso band iut of curiosity. I was hooked. Then I found a cheap box set of all of Piazzolla playing/conducting. Libertango is just the tip of the iceberg.

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                @sellathechemist @catsalad
                I didn’t know there was a box set of all #Piazzolla’s recordings?

                I read one of his biographies, and talked to somebody who dealt with some of his manuscripts

                It sounded like he just compulsively composed (for the money)

                Discarding pieces like a Oblivion without intending to record them well for posterity

                (They had to twist his arm on that one)

                My acquaintance made it sound like there was so much material no one could ever deal with it
                #tango #bandoneon

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                • sellathechemist@mastodon.socialS sellathechemist@mastodon.social

                  @AccordionBruce @catsalad By the way, where is the Alan Lomax archive? A producer friend introduced me to it when we were Hutu g for music for a radio programme…

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                  @sellathechemist @catsalad
                  Again not the expert

                  Lomax has a lot of recordings at the library of Congress
                  https://www.loc.gov/item/afc2004004.ms010201/

                  And other stuff here I believe
                  https://culturalequity.org/alan-lomax/friends/ledbetter/chronology

                  #FolkMusic

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                  • accordionbruce@mastodon.socialA accordionbruce@mastodon.social

                    @sellathechemist @catsalad
                    Again not the expert

                    Lomax has a lot of recordings at the library of Congress
                    https://www.loc.gov/item/afc2004004.ms010201/

                    And other stuff here I believe
                    https://culturalequity.org/alan-lomax/friends/ledbetter/chronology

                    #FolkMusic

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                    @sellathechemist @catsalad
                    I had a lot of fun with one of the more interesting chapters in my book I think, the somewhat Baffler-style trenchant, “The Folk Revival: The Accordion Betrayed”

                    I tried not to make fun of Alan Lomax and others too much. But at least one reader might have complained. Figures like him did so much good though they can take a ribbing

                    Wish I could’ve asked him about his accordion phobia though

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                    • antares@musician.socialA antares@musician.social

                      @AccordionBruce @sellathechemist @catsalad ow thank you for the correction and details ! One of my late friend - who wasn't a huge fan of Lomax - always reminded me that Leadbelly played the accordion but we never had a real discussion about that, and I sloppily assumed the few known recordings were done by Lomax.

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                      @antares @sellathechemist @catsalad
                      Lomax is one of the people who did a lot, with a lot of help by people who deserve more credit

                      So like most “great men” he can take the criticisms

                      And if the work is valid the man will not mind

                      I don’t even really have that much problem with him

                      He seems to have been really opinionated, and wrong on some things, which led people to argue with him

                      But he’s dead now so we don’t have to yell about those same things anymore

                      That’s just science

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                      • ecadre@mastodon.socialE ecadre@mastodon.social

                        @AccordionBruce @catsalad

                        And those Pirates you mention also didn't sing shanties; because they hadn't been invented yet.

                        Shanties were the work songs of merchant seamen from approx. the late 1820s and reported to be dying out in the late 1870s.

                        So, a 19th century working-class culture hijacked into "Pirate" fantasy-land.

                        PS. also, no, not every song mentioning the sea or sailors is a shanty.

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                        @ecadre @AccordionBruce @catsalad

                        Well, wait a second... Dana reported work songs and shanties. And Hawai'ian long talk.

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                        • amgine@mamot.frA amgine@mamot.fr

                          @ecadre @AccordionBruce @catsalad

                          Well, wait a second... Dana reported work songs and shanties. And Hawai'ian long talk.

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                          @ecadre @AccordionBruce @catsalad

                          Nope, checked my dates; Dana was 19th century; for some reason I think of him as 18th.

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                          • accordionbruce@mastodon.socialA accordionbruce@mastodon.social

                            @catsalad
                            Pirates never played accordions
                            🏴‍☠️🚫🪗

                            (Because they hadn’t been invented yet)

                            Accordions were invented during the 1800s Industrial Revolution at the same time as the telegraph, steam engine and the typewriter

                            100 years after the Golden Age of Piracy 1600s–1700s

                            So every pirate movie with an accordionist is a science fiction movie with a time-travel sub plot 🚀⌛️

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                            @AccordionBruce🤯

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