Tell me some thing blasphemous and/or sacrilegious
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@antares @sellathechemist @catsalad
There’s people who study just Lead Belly and I’m no expertBut I think Lead Belly’s only five known “windjammer” 🪗 recordings were made late in his life in the 40s by Mos Asch
They’re all on this set
https://folkways.si.edu/leadbellyNot sure he owned an accordion when Alan Lomax knew him
He’d picked one up again, maybe in nostalgia for the instrument he learned first back in 1909
Or because he thought it would sell records? Who knows? Nobody asked
@antares @sellathechemist @catsalad
Ironically all the folklorists wanted to hear was his Mexican 12 string guitar, which wasn’t traditional at allThey never asked about his little “windjammer” button accordion
Or the Black square-dance tradition it was played for that dated back to before the Civil War
And that his accordion style predated his 12 string guitar, and blues guitar in general
But nobody knew or thought to ask
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@sellathechemist @catsalad
Alan Lomax went to Europe in the 1950s to escape the McCarthy eraAnd he seems to have come back with a deep hatred of the Accordion
He called it a “pestiferous instrument”
And seemed to apply a generic filter based on the fact that it had chased around fiddle and bagpipe traditions in many parts of Europe
Not unearned. But not helpful
@AccordionBruce @catsalad I loathed the accordion thanks to my parents. And then I discovered Astor Piazzolla’s writing for the bandoneon after buying a very cheap second hand CD of Gideon Kremer’s virtuoso band iut of curiosity. I was hooked. Then I found a cheap box set of all of Piazzolla playing/conducting. Libertango is just the tip of the iceberg.
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@sellathechemist @catsalad
Alan Lomax went to Europe in the 1950s to escape the McCarthy eraAnd he seems to have come back with a deep hatred of the Accordion
He called it a “pestiferous instrument”
And seemed to apply a generic filter based on the fact that it had chased around fiddle and bagpipe traditions in many parts of Europe
Not unearned. But not helpful
@AccordionBruce @catsalad By the way, where is the Alan Lomax archive? A producer friend introduced me to it when we were Hutu g for music for a radio programme…
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@jpm So why didn't your poke at islam get a mastodon.social content strike but my swipe at chrstianity did? (see edit history on mine) https://mastodon.social/@weezmgk/116351355295067417@catsalad@infosec.exchange
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@jpm So why didn't your poke at islam get a mastodon.social content strike but my swipe at chrstianity did? (see edit history on mine) https://mastodon.social/@weezmgk/116351355295067417@catsalad@infosec.exchange
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@catsalad
Pirates never played accordions
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🪗 (Because they hadn’t been invented yet)
Accordions were invented during the 1800s Industrial Revolution at the same time as the telegraph, steam engine and the typewriter
100 years after the Golden Age of Piracy 1600s–1700s
So every pirate movie with an accordionist is a science fiction movie with a time-travel sub plot
️And those Pirates you mention also didn't sing shanties; because they hadn't been invented yet.
Shanties were the work songs of merchant seamen from approx. the late 1820s and reported to be dying out in the late 1870s.
So, a 19th century working-class culture hijacked into "Pirate" fantasy-land.
PS. also, no, not every song mentioning the sea or sailors is a shanty.
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@antares @sellathechemist @catsalad
Ironically all the folklorists wanted to hear was his Mexican 12 string guitar, which wasn’t traditional at allThey never asked about his little “windjammer” button accordion
Or the Black square-dance tradition it was played for that dated back to before the Civil War
And that his accordion style predated his 12 string guitar, and blues guitar in general
But nobody knew or thought to ask
️@AccordionBruce @sellathechemist @catsalad ow thank you for the correction and details ! One of my late friend - who wasn't a huge fan of Lomax - always reminded me that Leadbelly played the accordion but we never had a real discussion about that, and I sloppily assumed the few known recordings were done by Lomax.
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@catsalad
Pirates never played accordions️🪗 (Because they hadn’t been invented yet)
Accordions were invented during the 1800s Industrial Revolution at the same time as the telegraph, steam engine and the typewriter
100 years after the Golden Age of Piracy 1600s–1700s
So every pirate movie with an accordionist is a science fiction movie with a time-travel sub plot
️@AccordionBruce @catsalad Wrong.
Pirates played accordions. And i can tell it's true cause i like it !
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@AccordionBruce @catsalad I loathed the accordion thanks to my parents. And then I discovered Astor Piazzolla’s writing for the bandoneon after buying a very cheap second hand CD of Gideon Kremer’s virtuoso band iut of curiosity. I was hooked. Then I found a cheap box set of all of Piazzolla playing/conducting. Libertango is just the tip of the iceberg.
@sellathechemist @catsalad
I didn’t know there was a box set of all #Piazzolla’s recordings?I read one of his biographies, and talked to somebody who dealt with some of his manuscripts
It sounded like he just compulsively composed (for the money)
Discarding pieces like a Oblivion without intending to record them well for posterity
(They had to twist his arm on that one)
My acquaintance made it sound like there was so much material no one could ever deal with it
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@AccordionBruce @catsalad By the way, where is the Alan Lomax archive? A producer friend introduced me to it when we were Hutu g for music for a radio programme…
@sellathechemist @catsalad
Again not the expertLomax has a lot of recordings at the library of Congress
https://www.loc.gov/item/afc2004004.ms010201/And other stuff here I believe
https://culturalequity.org/alan-lomax/friends/ledbetter/chronology -
@sellathechemist @catsalad
Again not the expertLomax has a lot of recordings at the library of Congress
https://www.loc.gov/item/afc2004004.ms010201/And other stuff here I believe
https://culturalequity.org/alan-lomax/friends/ledbetter/chronology@sellathechemist @catsalad
I had a lot of fun with one of the more interesting chapters in my book I think, the somewhat Baffler-style trenchant, “The Folk Revival: The Accordion Betrayed”I tried not to make fun of Alan Lomax and others too much. But at least one reader might have complained. Figures like him did so much good though they can take a ribbing
Wish I could’ve asked him about his accordion phobia though
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@AccordionBruce @sellathechemist @catsalad ow thank you for the correction and details ! One of my late friend - who wasn't a huge fan of Lomax - always reminded me that Leadbelly played the accordion but we never had a real discussion about that, and I sloppily assumed the few known recordings were done by Lomax.
@antares @sellathechemist @catsalad
Lomax is one of the people who did a lot, with a lot of help by people who deserve more creditSo like most “great men” he can take the criticisms
And if the work is valid the man will not mind
I don’t even really have that much problem with him
He seems to have been really opinionated, and wrong on some things, which led people to argue with him
But he’s dead now so we don’t have to yell about those same things anymore
That’s just science
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And those Pirates you mention also didn't sing shanties; because they hadn't been invented yet.
Shanties were the work songs of merchant seamen from approx. the late 1820s and reported to be dying out in the late 1870s.
So, a 19th century working-class culture hijacked into "Pirate" fantasy-land.
PS. also, no, not every song mentioning the sea or sailors is a shanty.
@ecadre @AccordionBruce @catsalad
Well, wait a second... Dana reported work songs and shanties. And Hawai'ian long talk.
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@ecadre @AccordionBruce @catsalad
Well, wait a second... Dana reported work songs and shanties. And Hawai'ian long talk.
@ecadre @AccordionBruce @catsalad
Nope, checked my dates; Dana was 19th century; for some reason I think of him as 18th.
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@catsalad
Pirates never played accordions️🪗 (Because they hadn’t been invented yet)
Accordions were invented during the 1800s Industrial Revolution at the same time as the telegraph, steam engine and the typewriter
100 years after the Golden Age of Piracy 1600s–1700s
So every pirate movie with an accordionist is a science fiction movie with a time-travel sub plot
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