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  • accordionbruce@mastodon.socialA accordionbruce@mastodon.social

    @antares @sellathechemist @catsalad
    Ironically all the folklorists wanted to hear was his Mexican 12 string guitar, which wasn’t traditional at all

    They never asked about his little “windjammer” button accordion

    Or the Black square-dance tradition it was played for that dated back to before the Civil War

    And that his accordion style predated his 12 string guitar, and blues guitar in general

    But nobody knew or thought to ask 🤷🏽‍♀️

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    @AccordionBruce @sellathechemist @catsalad ow thank you for the correction and details ! One of my late friend - who wasn't a huge fan of Lomax - always reminded me that Leadbelly played the accordion but we never had a real discussion about that, and I sloppily assumed the few known recordings were done by Lomax.

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    • accordionbruce@mastodon.socialA accordionbruce@mastodon.social

      @catsalad
      Pirates never played accordions
      🏴‍☠️🚫🪗

      (Because they hadn’t been invented yet)

      Accordions were invented during the 1800s Industrial Revolution at the same time as the telegraph, steam engine and the typewriter

      100 years after the Golden Age of Piracy 1600s–1700s

      So every pirate movie with an accordionist is a science fiction movie with a time-travel sub plot 🚀⌛️

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      @AccordionBruce @catsalad Wrong.

      Pirates played accordions. And i can tell it's true cause i like it ! 😠

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      • catsalad@infosec.exchangeC catsalad@infosec.exchange

        Tell me some thing blasphemous and/or sacrilegious

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        @catsalad check our games 🙂

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          @Steveg58 @catsalad
          The timing lines up

          (Ironically?) Before that, parts might have been made at great expense one at a time by watchmakers

          When in my accordion research I finally found a timeline of the industrial production of sheet metal, that was a good day

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          • sellathechemist@mastodon.socialS sellathechemist@mastodon.social

            @AccordionBruce @catsalad I loathed the accordion thanks to my parents. And then I discovered Astor Piazzolla’s writing for the bandoneon after buying a very cheap second hand CD of Gideon Kremer’s virtuoso band iut of curiosity. I was hooked. Then I found a cheap box set of all of Piazzolla playing/conducting. Libertango is just the tip of the iceberg.

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            @sellathechemist @catsalad
            I didn’t know there was a box set of all #Piazzolla’s recordings?

            I read one of his biographies, and talked to somebody who dealt with some of his manuscripts

            It sounded like he just compulsively composed (for the money)

            Discarding pieces like a Oblivion without intending to record them well for posterity

            (They had to twist his arm on that one)

            My acquaintance made it sound like there was so much material no one could ever deal with it
            #tango #bandoneon

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            • sellathechemist@mastodon.socialS sellathechemist@mastodon.social

              @AccordionBruce @catsalad By the way, where is the Alan Lomax archive? A producer friend introduced me to it when we were Hutu g for music for a radio programme…

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              @sellathechemist @catsalad
              Again not the expert

              Lomax has a lot of recordings at the library of Congress
              https://www.loc.gov/item/afc2004004.ms010201/

              And other stuff here I believe
              https://culturalequity.org/alan-lomax/friends/ledbetter/chronology

              #FolkMusic

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              • accordionbruce@mastodon.socialA accordionbruce@mastodon.social

                @sellathechemist @catsalad
                Again not the expert

                Lomax has a lot of recordings at the library of Congress
                https://www.loc.gov/item/afc2004004.ms010201/

                And other stuff here I believe
                https://culturalequity.org/alan-lomax/friends/ledbetter/chronology

                #FolkMusic

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                @sellathechemist @catsalad
                I had a lot of fun with one of the more interesting chapters in my book I think, the somewhat Baffler-style trenchant, “The Folk Revival: The Accordion Betrayed”

                I tried not to make fun of Alan Lomax and others too much. But at least one reader might have complained. Figures like him did so much good though they can take a ribbing

                Wish I could’ve asked him about his accordion phobia though

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                • antares@musician.socialA antares@musician.social

                  @AccordionBruce @sellathechemist @catsalad ow thank you for the correction and details ! One of my late friend - who wasn't a huge fan of Lomax - always reminded me that Leadbelly played the accordion but we never had a real discussion about that, and I sloppily assumed the few known recordings were done by Lomax.

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                  @antares @sellathechemist @catsalad
                  Lomax is one of the people who did a lot, with a lot of help by people who deserve more credit

                  So like most “great men” he can take the criticisms

                  And if the work is valid the man will not mind

                  I don’t even really have that much problem with him

                  He seems to have been really opinionated, and wrong on some things, which led people to argue with him

                  But he’s dead now so we don’t have to yell about those same things anymore

                  That’s just science

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                  • ecadre@mastodon.socialE ecadre@mastodon.social

                    @AccordionBruce @catsalad

                    And those Pirates you mention also didn't sing shanties; because they hadn't been invented yet.

                    Shanties were the work songs of merchant seamen from approx. the late 1820s and reported to be dying out in the late 1870s.

                    So, a 19th century working-class culture hijacked into "Pirate" fantasy-land.

                    PS. also, no, not every song mentioning the sea or sailors is a shanty.

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                    @ecadre @AccordionBruce @catsalad

                    Well, wait a second... Dana reported work songs and shanties. And Hawai'ian long talk.

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                    • amgine@mamot.frA amgine@mamot.fr

                      @ecadre @AccordionBruce @catsalad

                      Well, wait a second... Dana reported work songs and shanties. And Hawai'ian long talk.

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                      @ecadre @AccordionBruce @catsalad

                      Nope, checked my dates; Dana was 19th century; for some reason I think of him as 18th.

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                      • accordionbruce@mastodon.socialA accordionbruce@mastodon.social

                        @catsalad
                        Pirates never played accordions
                        🏴‍☠️🚫🪗

                        (Because they hadn’t been invented yet)

                        Accordions were invented during the 1800s Industrial Revolution at the same time as the telegraph, steam engine and the typewriter

                        100 years after the Golden Age of Piracy 1600s–1700s

                        So every pirate movie with an accordionist is a science fiction movie with a time-travel sub plot 🚀⌛️

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                        @AccordionBruce🤯

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