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  • accordionbruce@mastodon.socialA accordionbruce@mastodon.social

    @Jeanniewarner @Cadbury_Moose @davidr @catsalad
    You’re right!

    Outside my areas but seems like the great Pirate Queen Zheng Yi Sao might have had South East Asian free reeds (variants inspired early accordions) onboard

    And they would likely/definitely have been around on shore

    Now that’s a story to be told! 🪗 🏴‍☠️ 🐉
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zheng_Yi_Sao

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    @Jeanniewarner @Cadbury_Moose @davidr @catsalad
    We were just talking about the Chinese sheng, mouth organ last week
    https://mastodon.social/@AccordionBruce/116340900565911951

    Where I linked to an article but didn’t include the author’s name (making it hard to search up)

    How the sheng became a harp,
    by the very cool 😎
    Carmel Raz

    Sound Studies
    An Interdisciplinary Journal
    Volume 6, 2020 - Issue 2: Special Issue: Sonic Things: Knowledge Formation in Flux
    https://doi.org/10.1080/20551940.2020.1794648

    Title refers to the harmonica mouth-harp not 🪉

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    • catsalad@infosec.exchangeC catsalad@infosec.exchange

      Tell me some thing blasphemous and/or sacrilegious

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      @catsalad since Mary birthed Jesus through partenogenesis, Jesus was probably a semi clone of Mary, wich means Jesus was either intersex or a woman or a quimera.

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      • antares@musician.socialA antares@musician.social

        @AccordionBruce @sellathechemist @catsalad so that was after he recorded Lead Belly playing it ?

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        @antares @sellathechemist @catsalad
        There’s people who study just Lead Belly and I’m no expert

        But I think Lead Belly’s only five known “windjammer” 🪗 recordings were made late in his life in the 40s by Mos Asch

        They’re all on this set
        https://folkways.si.edu/leadbelly

        Not sure he owned an accordion when Alan Lomax knew him

        He’d picked one up again, maybe in nostalgia for the instrument he learned first back in 1909

        Or because he thought it would sell records? Who knows? Nobody asked 😠

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        • catsalad@infosec.exchangeC catsalad@infosec.exchange

          Tell me some thing blasphemous and/or sacrilegious

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          @catsalad Oh my dear Catsy, we found the christofascist AND homophobic mastodon.social moderator. I can't thank you enough! https://mastodon.social/@weezmgk/116356708412830751

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          • accordionbruce@mastodon.socialA accordionbruce@mastodon.social

            @antares @sellathechemist @catsalad
            There’s people who study just Lead Belly and I’m no expert

            But I think Lead Belly’s only five known “windjammer” 🪗 recordings were made late in his life in the 40s by Mos Asch

            They’re all on this set
            https://folkways.si.edu/leadbelly

            Not sure he owned an accordion when Alan Lomax knew him

            He’d picked one up again, maybe in nostalgia for the instrument he learned first back in 1909

            Or because he thought it would sell records? Who knows? Nobody asked 😠

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            @antares @sellathechemist @catsalad
            Ironically all the folklorists wanted to hear was his Mexican 12 string guitar, which wasn’t traditional at all

            They never asked about his little “windjammer” button accordion

            Or the Black square-dance tradition it was played for that dated back to before the Civil War

            And that his accordion style predated his 12 string guitar, and blues guitar in general

            But nobody knew or thought to ask 🤷🏽‍♀️

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            • accordionbruce@mastodon.socialA accordionbruce@mastodon.social

              @sellathechemist @catsalad
              Alan Lomax went to Europe in the 1950s to escape the McCarthy era

              And he seems to have come back with a deep hatred of the Accordion

              He called it a “pestiferous instrument”

              And seemed to apply a generic filter based on the fact that it had chased around fiddle and bagpipe traditions in many parts of Europe

              Not unearned. But not helpful

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              @AccordionBruce @catsalad I loathed the accordion thanks to my parents. And then I discovered Astor Piazzolla’s writing for the bandoneon after buying a very cheap second hand CD of Gideon Kremer’s virtuoso band iut of curiosity. I was hooked. Then I found a cheap box set of all of Piazzolla playing/conducting. Libertango is just the tip of the iceberg.

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              • accordionbruce@mastodon.socialA accordionbruce@mastodon.social

                @sellathechemist @catsalad
                Alan Lomax went to Europe in the 1950s to escape the McCarthy era

                And he seems to have come back with a deep hatred of the Accordion

                He called it a “pestiferous instrument”

                And seemed to apply a generic filter based on the fact that it had chased around fiddle and bagpipe traditions in many parts of Europe

                Not unearned. But not helpful

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                @AccordionBruce @catsalad By the way, where is the Alan Lomax archive? A producer friend introduced me to it when we were Hutu g for music for a radio programme…

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                • puppygirlhornypost2@transfem.socialP puppygirlhornypost2@transfem.social

                  @catsalad@infosec.exchange this is what being lesbian is like

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                  @puppygirlhornypost2@transfem.social

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                    @jpm So why didn't your poke at islam get a mastodon.social content strike but my swipe at chrstianity did? (see edit history on mine) https://mastodon.social/@weezmgk/116351355295067417@catsalad@infosec.exchange

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                    • weezmgk@mastodon.socialW weezmgk@mastodon.social

                      @jpm So why didn't your poke at islam get a mastodon.social content strike but my swipe at chrstianity did? (see edit history on mine) https://mastodon.social/@weezmgk/116351355295067417@catsalad@infosec.exchange

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                      @jpm cf https://mastodon.social/@weezmgk/116356708412830751

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                      • accordionbruce@mastodon.socialA accordionbruce@mastodon.social

                        @catsalad
                        Pirates never played accordions
                        🏴‍☠️🚫🪗

                        (Because they hadn’t been invented yet)

                        Accordions were invented during the 1800s Industrial Revolution at the same time as the telegraph, steam engine and the typewriter

                        100 years after the Golden Age of Piracy 1600s–1700s

                        So every pirate movie with an accordionist is a science fiction movie with a time-travel sub plot 🚀⌛️

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                        @AccordionBruce @catsalad

                        And those Pirates you mention also didn't sing shanties; because they hadn't been invented yet.

                        Shanties were the work songs of merchant seamen from approx. the late 1820s and reported to be dying out in the late 1870s.

                        So, a 19th century working-class culture hijacked into "Pirate" fantasy-land.

                        PS. also, no, not every song mentioning the sea or sailors is a shanty.

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                        • fritzadalis@infosec.exchangeF fritzadalis@infosec.exchange

                          @FurryBeta @pixmo @catsalad
                          Yeah, blocked and reported.

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                          @FritzAdalis @FurryBeta @pixmo @catsalad add me to this list please. Cats are pets for masochists who haven't discovered their kink yet.

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                          • accordionbruce@mastodon.socialA accordionbruce@mastodon.social

                            @antares @sellathechemist @catsalad
                            Ironically all the folklorists wanted to hear was his Mexican 12 string guitar, which wasn’t traditional at all

                            They never asked about his little “windjammer” button accordion

                            Or the Black square-dance tradition it was played for that dated back to before the Civil War

                            And that his accordion style predated his 12 string guitar, and blues guitar in general

                            But nobody knew or thought to ask 🤷🏽‍♀️

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                            @AccordionBruce @sellathechemist @catsalad ow thank you for the correction and details ! One of my late friend - who wasn't a huge fan of Lomax - always reminded me that Leadbelly played the accordion but we never had a real discussion about that, and I sloppily assumed the few known recordings were done by Lomax.

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                            • accordionbruce@mastodon.socialA accordionbruce@mastodon.social

                              @catsalad
                              Pirates never played accordions
                              🏴‍☠️🚫🪗

                              (Because they hadn’t been invented yet)

                              Accordions were invented during the 1800s Industrial Revolution at the same time as the telegraph, steam engine and the typewriter

                              100 years after the Golden Age of Piracy 1600s–1700s

                              So every pirate movie with an accordionist is a science fiction movie with a time-travel sub plot 🚀⌛️

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                              @AccordionBruce @catsalad Wrong.

                              Pirates played accordions. And i can tell it's true cause i like it ! 😠

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                              • catsalad@infosec.exchangeC catsalad@infosec.exchange

                                Tell me some thing blasphemous and/or sacrilegious

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                                @catsalad check our games 🙂

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                                  @Steveg58 @catsalad
                                  The timing lines up

                                  (Ironically?) Before that, parts might have been made at great expense one at a time by watchmakers

                                  When in my accordion research I finally found a timeline of the industrial production of sheet metal, that was a good day

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                                  • sellathechemist@mastodon.socialS sellathechemist@mastodon.social

                                    @AccordionBruce @catsalad I loathed the accordion thanks to my parents. And then I discovered Astor Piazzolla’s writing for the bandoneon after buying a very cheap second hand CD of Gideon Kremer’s virtuoso band iut of curiosity. I was hooked. Then I found a cheap box set of all of Piazzolla playing/conducting. Libertango is just the tip of the iceberg.

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                                    @sellathechemist @catsalad
                                    I didn’t know there was a box set of all #Piazzolla’s recordings?

                                    I read one of his biographies, and talked to somebody who dealt with some of his manuscripts

                                    It sounded like he just compulsively composed (for the money)

                                    Discarding pieces like a Oblivion without intending to record them well for posterity

                                    (They had to twist his arm on that one)

                                    My acquaintance made it sound like there was so much material no one could ever deal with it
                                    #tango #bandoneon

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                                    • sellathechemist@mastodon.socialS sellathechemist@mastodon.social

                                      @AccordionBruce @catsalad By the way, where is the Alan Lomax archive? A producer friend introduced me to it when we were Hutu g for music for a radio programme…

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                                      @sellathechemist @catsalad
                                      Again not the expert

                                      Lomax has a lot of recordings at the library of Congress
                                      https://www.loc.gov/item/afc2004004.ms010201/

                                      And other stuff here I believe
                                      https://culturalequity.org/alan-lomax/friends/ledbetter/chronology

                                      #FolkMusic

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                                      • accordionbruce@mastodon.socialA accordionbruce@mastodon.social

                                        @sellathechemist @catsalad
                                        Again not the expert

                                        Lomax has a lot of recordings at the library of Congress
                                        https://www.loc.gov/item/afc2004004.ms010201/

                                        And other stuff here I believe
                                        https://culturalequity.org/alan-lomax/friends/ledbetter/chronology

                                        #FolkMusic

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                                        @sellathechemist @catsalad
                                        I had a lot of fun with one of the more interesting chapters in my book I think, the somewhat Baffler-style trenchant, “The Folk Revival: The Accordion Betrayed”

                                        I tried not to make fun of Alan Lomax and others too much. But at least one reader might have complained. Figures like him did so much good though they can take a ribbing

                                        Wish I could’ve asked him about his accordion phobia though

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                                        • antares@musician.socialA antares@musician.social

                                          @AccordionBruce @sellathechemist @catsalad ow thank you for the correction and details ! One of my late friend - who wasn't a huge fan of Lomax - always reminded me that Leadbelly played the accordion but we never had a real discussion about that, and I sloppily assumed the few known recordings were done by Lomax.

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                                          @antares @sellathechemist @catsalad
                                          Lomax is one of the people who did a lot, with a lot of help by people who deserve more credit

                                          So like most “great men” he can take the criticisms

                                          And if the work is valid the man will not mind

                                          I don’t even really have that much problem with him

                                          He seems to have been really opinionated, and wrong on some things, which led people to argue with him

                                          But he’s dead now so we don’t have to yell about those same things anymore

                                          That’s just science

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