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Nothing gives Israel a special right to invade neighbors, bulldoze their homes, and create a DMZ.

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  • J jakekb@mastodon.social

    @Pine_Affinity @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado I really don't understand why can't Americans accept that the democratic party is an imperialist party for the elites that doesn't answer to its people. Why can't you build actual grassroot movements and put forward your own candidates that are not compromised by the democratic party systems of control? Far easier task than changing the democratic party from within.

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    @JakeKb @Pine_Affinity @Netraven @mcnado

    a 3rd party divides the left vote and ensures MAGA domination

    we need to take over the democrats. i don't like it. it's just the most feasible option

    the problem with international observers like yourself is you come from a different voting system

    the usa is FPTP

    meaning there will only ever be 2 parties (we need RCV to fix that)

    it's not corruption, it's math

    educate yourself before commenting on the matter next time:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duverger%27s_law

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      @Pine_Affinity @Netraven @mcnado

      if no one on the left shows up, spineless corporatist dems win, because spineless corporatist dems show up to vote

      but what you are saying is you want people you know are rotten to the core to suddenly and magically grow a conscience and resign?

      rather than, you know, just getting off your ass and voting them out?

      that's the way it works

      why would you argue against the only way to remove them, and argue for a behavior which ensures their continuing power?

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      @benroyce

      There is ALWAYS something one won't agree with. People always have something to complain about, something they miss, they can have different opinions on something.
      It is all about moving in the right, general direction. Holding hands with one another, moving together, getting on the bus accepting annoying stops, but knowing that in the end, we will end up where we want to be, and in the process getting rid of those who are not willing to move.

      @Pine_Affinity @Netraven @mcnado

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      • pine_affinity@mastodon.socialP pine_affinity@mastodon.social

        It’s like brainwashing. We’ve been voting for ‘the best possible’ Dem candidates for decades and it brought us to this exact moment.

        @JakeKb @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado

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        @Pine_Affinity @JakeKb @Netraven @mcnado

        on the contrary, it's people not voting because they are uneducated how our voting system works that makes us stuck

        we can't have 3rd parties

        not because of corruption, but because of math

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duverger%27s_law

        we need ranked choice voting to fix that

        then we can have stable viable 3rd parties

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        • pine_affinity@mastodon.socialP pine_affinity@mastodon.social

          why would I vote for this party?
          https://www.commondreams.org/news/schumer-israel-aid
          @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado

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          @Pine_Affinity
          You don't have a party on the ballot. You have specific candidates and specific issues, and you should pick the best option on the ballot for each item.

          It is a harm reduction test, and not voting hands the choice to people who will be energized to give you the worst outcome

          @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado

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          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

            @JakeKb @Pine_Affinity @Netraven @mcnado

            a 3rd party divides the left vote and ensures MAGA domination

            we need to take over the democrats. i don't like it. it's just the most feasible option

            the problem with international observers like yourself is you come from a different voting system

            the usa is FPTP

            meaning there will only ever be 2 parties (we need RCV to fix that)

            it's not corruption, it's math

            educate yourself before commenting on the matter next time:

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duverger%27s_law

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            Incredible to think that people who can’t stand to vote for Genocide Party A are the ones who are doing the dividing.
            This party is not reformable.
            I will see you in another year when Schumer is still leader.

            @benroyce @JakeKb @Netraven @mcnado

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            • pine_affinity@mastodon.socialP pine_affinity@mastodon.social

              Incredible to think that people who can’t stand to vote for Genocide Party A are the ones who are doing the dividing.
              This party is not reformable.
              I will see you in another year when Schumer is still leader.

              @benroyce @JakeKb @Netraven @mcnado

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              @Pine_Affinity @JakeKb @Netraven @mcnado

              and that's on you. because you didn't show up in the primaries to vote him out

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              • pascaline@mastodon.nlP pascaline@mastodon.nl

                @benroyce

                There is ALWAYS something one won't agree with. People always have something to complain about, something they miss, they can have different opinions on something.
                It is all about moving in the right, general direction. Holding hands with one another, moving together, getting on the bus accepting annoying stops, but knowing that in the end, we will end up where we want to be, and in the process getting rid of those who are not willing to move.

                @Pine_Affinity @Netraven @mcnado

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                The Democratic Party is moving to the right.

                @pascaline @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado

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                • pine_affinity@mastodon.socialP pine_affinity@mastodon.social

                  The Democratic Party is moving to the right.

                  @pascaline @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado

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                  @Pine_Affinity

                  Then vote for something else!

                  @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado

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                  • pascaline@mastodon.nlP pascaline@mastodon.nl

                    @Pine_Affinity

                    Then vote for something else!

                    @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado

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                    Ben Royce says I can’t

                    @pascaline @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado

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                    • pine_affinity@mastodon.socialP pine_affinity@mastodon.social

                      Asking them to eject a leader who illegally and unconditionally supports a genocidal nation is wanting magic?

                      This should be the bare minimum to exist as a political party much less a human being.

                      @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado

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                      @Pine_Affinity
                      Yes, you are asking for magic.

                      At the time that you vote, ejection is not on the menu and wishing it to be is magical thinking

                      By all means demand that the party eject people who don't meet requirements, but if you abstain to vote, you hand your vote to the worst outcome

                      @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado

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                      • pine_affinity@mastodon.socialP pine_affinity@mastodon.social

                        Because that doesn’t work.

                        Link Preview Image
                        Chuck Schumer responds to growing anger after he agreed to Republican spending bills

                        Senate Minority Leader rejected any calls for his resignation, standing behind his decision to vote with Republicans to keep the government open

                        favicon

                        The Independent (www.independent.co.uk)

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                        @Pine_Affinity @Netraven @mcnado

                        voting doesn't work?

                        sitting there doing nothing but expecting centrist dems to change doesn't work

                        just fucking vote

                        in the primaries

                        replace them

                        that is how we fix it

                        all you are doing is arguing for a behavior, nonparticipation, which ensures fascism marches forward

                        why would you do that?

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                        • pine_affinity@mastodon.socialP pine_affinity@mastodon.social

                          The Democratic Party is moving to the right.

                          @pascaline @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado

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                          @Pine_Affinity

                          Also, I really find 'left' and 'right' nonsensical and yet, everyone uses it. It's divisive.

                          @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado

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                          • pine_affinity@mastodon.socialP pine_affinity@mastodon.social

                            The Democratic Party is moving to the right.

                            @pascaline @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado

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                            @Pine_Affinity @pascaline @Netraven @mcnado

                            because you're not voting

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                            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                              @Pine_Affinity @Netraven @mcnado

                              voting doesn't work?

                              sitting there doing nothing but expecting centrist dems to change doesn't work

                              just fucking vote

                              in the primaries

                              replace them

                              that is how we fix it

                              all you are doing is arguing for a behavior, nonparticipation, which ensures fascism marches forward

                              why would you do that?

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                              Is this behavior enabling fascism?

                              @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado

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                              • pine_affinity@mastodon.socialP pine_affinity@mastodon.social

                                Ben Royce says I can’t

                                @pascaline @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado

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                                @Pine_Affinity @pascaline @Netraven @mcnado

                                how many times have i written "show up in the primaries"

                                do you understand what a primary is?

                                how did we get mamdani?

                                was it because of people like you going "nothing changes. waah. everything sucks and then you die. waah"

                                or was it from people voting?

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                                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                  @Pine_Affinity @pascaline @Netraven @mcnado

                                  because you're not voting

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                                  @benroyce

                                  If someone didn't vote at all, they voted my omission for this hellscape we're in now.

                                  @Pine_Affinity @Netraven @mcnado

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                                  • pine_affinity@mastodon.socialP pine_affinity@mastodon.social

                                    Because that doesn’t work.

                                    Link Preview Image
                                    Chuck Schumer responds to growing anger after he agreed to Republican spending bills

                                    Senate Minority Leader rejected any calls for his resignation, standing behind his decision to vote with Republicans to keep the government open

                                    favicon

                                    The Independent (www.independent.co.uk)

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                                    @Pine_Affinity
                                    No

                                    That is the ONLY way that things work.
                                    We have shitty choices now, because people who could have influenced things to get better options stood back and let things take their course.

                                    Paradigmatic changes almost never happen, and are almost always bad. Incremental and marginal improvement is almost always the only way things actually improve. It works like that to make better sausages, airplanes, or policies

                                    @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado

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                                      @Pine_Affinity @pascaline @Netraven @mcnado

                                      because you're not voting

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                                      I voted for Joe Biden and he illegally sent bombs to explode children in hospital beds.

                                      @benroyce @pascaline @Netraven @mcnado

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                                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                        @Pine_Affinity @JakeKb @Netraven @mcnado

                                        and that's on you. because you didn't show up in the primaries to vote him out

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                                        @benroyce @Pine_Affinity@mastodon.social @JakeKb @Netraven @mcnado goddamn some holier-than-thou pricks just refuse to understand the assignment.

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                                        • screwturn@mastodon.socialS screwturn@mastodon.social

                                          @Pine_Affinity
                                          No

                                          That is the ONLY way that things work.
                                          We have shitty choices now, because people who could have influenced things to get better options stood back and let things take their course.

                                          Paradigmatic changes almost never happen, and are almost always bad. Incremental and marginal improvement is almost always the only way things actually improve. It works like that to make better sausages, airplanes, or policies

                                          @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado

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                                          How many more years of Chuck Schumer are acceptable?

                                          @screwturn @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado

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