If 1 in 1000 political volunteer hours goes into the TDG, the TDG will move forward. And the current system still gets 999 volunteer hours. It should not miss the 1 hour it has lost.

Only a few TDG people are needed to start this movement off.

And the TDG requires only 10 hours a month. Some people can participate in both systems, thus hedging their bet.

now do the GOP

now realize those are your only 2 choices

now realize when you don't vote you help the GOP win

welcome to reality pine affinity

you imagine you can drop out. as if your inaction won't affect you. this means you're entitled and you don't care about healthcare, trans people, women, immigrants, climate change, iran war, etc. or you do care but you're too stupid to realize what your "noble" nothingburger is

Ok, but you need a replacement.
The way you get rid of him is to primary him with someone better.

@Pine_Affinity @benroyce @Netraven @mcnado

and thus: vote

get him out in the primary in 2028

nope

if you show up, especially in the primaries, you get the candidates you want

if you don't, you don't

bad candidates do not cause lack of voting

lack of voting causes bad candidates

you have the cause and effect reversed and are abrogating a simple effort to make your will known. and for what? ego masturbation over toxic idealism?

not voting is monumentally stupid, and is the cause of our problems as much as MAGA

it's kind of hard, pine affinity, to be judged by someone who sits there with a smirk and does nothing while we march to fascism. partly getting to fascism because you won't do shit except whine and imagine yourself superior. when you have no superiority. you have toxic idealism and immaturity

bingo

it's all about the ego masturbation. it's never about improving the world

morality without action isn't morality at all. and all action is imperfect

but they want perfect

thus, if action is imperfect they won't act at all. and therefore they aren't moral at all

all they have is patting themselves on their back in their mind palace while the world goes to shit. partly because of their entitlement and indolence

people need to fucking vote

Perfection is for mythical gods. The rest of us just muddle through.

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@Pine_Affinity @pascaline @Netraven @mcnado

yeah but dave we've been over this

what you want requires people showing up in the current system

so you want to argue for turnout like i am doing

well thanks for lying down and dreaming pine affinity

when you wake up and tell us your resplendent vision of perfection- but no fucking clue how to get there, we will mark your "great contribution" accordingly

If the USA had listened to me in 2009, this new democracy would be mostly in place:

:: TDG :: Blog

(tiereddemocraticgovernance.org)

This new democracy can still be built in a bumbling US democracy.

It can also be built during a Republican oligarchy. The R's will be too busy fighting more immediate threats to come down hard on the early TDG builders.

There ain't gonna be a future with the Christofascists in power.

With climate collapse, there is no idealized future, only surviving until the next day.

Humanity fucked up.

@rozeboosje @benroyce @pascaline @Netraven @mcnado

And we won't have 20 years for anything, if the current Christofascists continue on their plan to destroy the planet and get raptured.

@benroyce @Pine_Affinity @pascaline @Netraven @mcnado