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  3. People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump.

People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump.

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  • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

    @drahardja

    In addition to voting, try to reduce the fascist fossil fuel funding that elevates goons like Fico, Orban, & Trump.

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/01/politics/elon-musk-2024-election-spending-millions

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    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/20/us/politics/koch-network-2024-election-trump.html

    As with Assad & Yanukovych, follow the money and erode the financial corruption too.

    Go after their tech proxies too.
    Pop the AI bubble and soon.
    Ditto cryptocurrency.

    1/

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    2/

    They all need investigation.

    1. SpaceX $288,723,409
    2. Adelson Clinic/Miriam Adelson $146,881,700
    3. Uline Inc $146,027,201
    4. Citadel LLC $108,669,316
    5. Susquehanna International Group $101,468,362
    6. Andreessen Horowitz $89,036,553
    7. Empower Parents PAC $82,500,000
    8. Coinbase $79,008,020
    9. Elliott Management $68,846,510
    10. Securing American Greatness $67,558,284
    11. Senate Leadership Fund $67,445,300
    12. Club for Growth $59,846,594
    13. Koch Inc $49,092,685

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    • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

      People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump. He had more than twice the time Trump has had to intimidate, corrupt, and destroy Hungary’s systems of voting. And yet, voting unseated him.

      PLEASE do not preemptively give up on voting. Voting still works in the US, and it is quite likely that our voting infrastructure will far outlive Trump and his destructive party.

      Authoritarians rely on a perceived popular mandate to continue their abuse. Voting can decisively deny them that mandate. Do not give up prematurely.

      VOTE. VOTE. VOTE.

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      wrote last edited by
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      @drahardja A victory for Hungary and the EU, a lifeline for Ukraine, another nail in Trump's coffin and an overdue setback for Putin. Great news!

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      • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

        2/

        They all need investigation.

        1. SpaceX $288,723,409
        2. Adelson Clinic/Miriam Adelson $146,881,700
        3. Uline Inc $146,027,201
        4. Citadel LLC $108,669,316
        5. Susquehanna International Group $101,468,362
        6. Andreessen Horowitz $89,036,553
        7. Empower Parents PAC $82,500,000
        8. Coinbase $79,008,020
        9. Elliott Management $68,846,510
        10. Securing American Greatness $67,558,284
        11. Senate Leadership Fund $67,445,300
        12. Club for Growth $59,846,594
        13. Koch Inc $49,092,685

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        wrote last edited by
        #10

        3/

        Focus attention on the public corruption of these entities.

        14. Blackstone Group $48,609,890
        15.  Stand Together Chamber of Commerce $44,801,948
        16. Restoration PAC $41,168,363
        17. Crownquest Operating $35,752,512
        18. Bigelow Aerospace $34,991,590
        19. Building America's Future $33,670,000
        20. Stephens Inc $27,343,518
        21. British American Tobacco $26,175,838
        22. American Prosperity Alliance $22,549,000
        23. Manzanita Management Group $22,159,143

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        • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

          3/

          Focus attention on the public corruption of these entities.

          14. Blackstone Group $48,609,890
          15.  Stand Together Chamber of Commerce $44,801,948
          16. Restoration PAC $41,168,363
          17. Crownquest Operating $35,752,512
          18. Bigelow Aerospace $34,991,590
          19. Building America's Future $33,670,000
          20. Stephens Inc $27,343,518
          21. British American Tobacco $26,175,838
          22. American Prosperity Alliance $22,549,000
          23. Manzanita Management Group $22,159,143

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          4/

          These entities need to be outed.

          24. America First Action/America First Policies $21,724,798
          25. Mountaire Corp $21,375,080
          26. Reyes Holdings $21,192,607
          27. Energy Transfer LP $19,321,695
          28. Hendricks Holding Co $19,306,538

          Just a moment...

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          • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

            4/

            These entities need to be outed.

            24. America First Action/America First Policies $21,724,798
            25. Mountaire Corp $21,375,080
            26. Reyes Holdings $21,192,607
            27. Energy Transfer LP $19,321,695
            28. Hendricks Holding Co $19,306,538

            Just a moment...

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            5/

            #FFFO

            Fund a Fascist & Find Out.

            1. Elon Musk $291,482,587
            2. Timothy Mellon $197,047,200
            3. Miriam Adelson $148,304,900
            4. Richard Uihlein $143,498,936
            5. Ken Griffin $108,402,284
            6. Jeff Yass $101,128,680
            7. Paul E. Singer $66,800,800
            8. Marc Andreessen $42,365,113
            9. Stephen Schwarzman $40,202,039
            10. Timothy Dunn $35,780,200
            11. Rob Bigelow $34,991,500
            12. Diane Hendricks $33,165,417
            13. JJ Ricketts $32,273,650
            14. Shirley W. Ryan $32,198,116

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            • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

              5/

              #FFFO

              Fund a Fascist & Find Out.

              1. Elon Musk $291,482,587
              2. Timothy Mellon $197,047,200
              3. Miriam Adelson $148,304,900
              4. Richard Uihlein $143,498,936
              5. Ken Griffin $108,402,284
              6. Jeff Yass $101,128,680
              7. Paul E. Singer $66,800,800
              8. Marc Andreessen $42,365,113
              9. Stephen Schwarzman $40,202,039
              10. Timothy Dunn $35,780,200
              11. Rob Bigelow $34,991,500
              12. Diane Hendricks $33,165,417
              13. JJ Ricketts $32,273,650
              14. Shirley W. Ryan $32,198,116

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              6/

              These people fund sedition & coup attempts.

              15. Warren A. Stephens $25,895,650
              16. Isaac & Laura Perlmutter $25,344,890
              17. Vince & Linda McMahon $23,961,659
              18. Ronnie & Nina Cameron $21,372,500
              19. Jan Koum $20,855,091
              20. Thomas Klingenstein $17,410,263
              21. Rob Walton $17,572,601
              22. Janet J. Duchossois $16,306,033
              23. Howard W. Lutnick $16,503,667
              24. Kelcy L. Warren $16,151,105
              25. Walter W. Buckley Jr. $15,522,500
              26. Thomas Peterffy $14,305,900
              27. Anthony Pratt $14,000,000

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              • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                6/

                These people fund sedition & coup attempts.

                15. Warren A. Stephens $25,895,650
                16. Isaac & Laura Perlmutter $25,344,890
                17. Vince & Linda McMahon $23,961,659
                18. Ronnie & Nina Cameron $21,372,500
                19. Jan Koum $20,855,091
                20. Thomas Klingenstein $17,410,263
                21. Rob Walton $17,572,601
                22. Janet J. Duchossois $16,306,033
                23. Howard W. Lutnick $16,503,667
                24. Kelcy L. Warren $16,151,105
                25. Walter W. Buckley Jr. $15,522,500
                26. Thomas Peterffy $14,305,900
                27. Anthony Pratt $14,000,000

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                7/

                28. Sherrilyn Fisher $13,299,894
                29. David Millstone $13,413,486
                30. Lynne Walton $13,037,750
                31. Charles Schwab $12,801,600
                32. Stephen Wynn $12,518,750
                33. Anthony Lomangino $9,529,705
                34. J. Christopher Reyes $9,536,425
                35. Jay Winters Faison $9,084,324
                36. James Davis $8,497,854
                37. John W. Childs $8,694,286
                38. Patricia Duggan $8,446,099
                39. Richard G. Haworth $7,500,800
                40. Marc J. Rowan $8,721,299
                41. Jeffrey Specher, Kelly Loeffler $7,052,013
                42. John L. Nau III $7,030,556

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                • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                  7/

                  28. Sherrilyn Fisher $13,299,894
                  29. David Millstone $13,413,486
                  30. Lynne Walton $13,037,750
                  31. Charles Schwab $12,801,600
                  32. Stephen Wynn $12,518,750
                  33. Anthony Lomangino $9,529,705
                  34. J. Christopher Reyes $9,536,425
                  35. Jay Winters Faison $9,084,324
                  36. James Davis $8,497,854
                  37. John W. Childs $8,694,286
                  38. Patricia Duggan $8,446,099
                  39. Richard G. Haworth $7,500,800
                  40. Marc J. Rowan $8,721,299
                  41. Jeffrey Specher, Kelly Loeffler $7,052,013
                  42. John L. Nau III $7,030,556

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                  8/

                  43. John & Shannon V. Addison $6,757,065
                  44. Robert H. Book $6,986,387
                  45. Susan Fox $6,687,414
                  46. Patricia Perkins-Leone $6,606,600
                  47. Jeffrey Hildebrand $6,508,389
                  48. Bernard Marcus $9,397,150
                  49. Steve Brodie $6,481,298
                  50. Daniel Newlin $6,063,928
                  51. Trevor D. Rees-Jones $5,765,124
                  52. Ross & Sarah Perot $5,643,416
                  53. Harold C. Simmons $5,596,530
                  54. Kelly Navarro $5,373,100
                  55. Alice Walton $10,248,000
                  56. Rob Granieri $5,587,899

                  Just a moment...

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                  • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

                    People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump. He had more than twice the time Trump has had to intimidate, corrupt, and destroy Hungary’s systems of voting. And yet, voting unseated him.

                    PLEASE do not preemptively give up on voting. Voting still works in the US, and it is quite likely that our voting infrastructure will far outlive Trump and his destructive party.

                    Authoritarians rely on a perceived popular mandate to continue their abuse. Voting can decisively deny them that mandate. Do not give up prematurely.

                    VOTE. VOTE. VOTE.

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                    wrote last edited by
                    #16

                    @drahardja 👍💯👍

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                    • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                      8/

                      43. John & Shannon V. Addison $6,757,065
                      44. Robert H. Book $6,986,387
                      45. Susan Fox $6,687,414
                      46. Patricia Perkins-Leone $6,606,600
                      47. Jeffrey Hildebrand $6,508,389
                      48. Bernard Marcus $9,397,150
                      49. Steve Brodie $6,481,298
                      50. Daniel Newlin $6,063,928
                      51. Trevor D. Rees-Jones $5,765,124
                      52. Ross & Sarah Perot $5,643,416
                      53. Harold C. Simmons $5,596,530
                      54. Kelly Navarro $5,373,100
                      55. Alice Walton $10,248,000
                      56. Rob Granieri $5,587,899

                      Just a moment...

                      favicon

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                      @Npars01
                      Who are the biggest doners?
                      @mastoreaderio unroll please

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                      • cdarwin@c.imC cdarwin@c.im

                        @Npars01
                        Who are the biggest doners?
                        @mastoreaderio unroll please

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                        #18

                        @cdarwin here's the unrolled thread: https://mastoreader.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fc.im%2F%40cdarwin%2F116394673361342000

                        Next time, kindly set the visibility to 'Mentioned people only' and mention only me (@mastoreaderio). This ensures we avoid spamming others' timelines and threads unless you intend for others to see the unrolled thread link as well.

                        Thank you!

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                        • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

                          People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump. He had more than twice the time Trump has had to intimidate, corrupt, and destroy Hungary’s systems of voting. And yet, voting unseated him.

                          PLEASE do not preemptively give up on voting. Voting still works in the US, and it is quite likely that our voting infrastructure will far outlive Trump and his destructive party.

                          Authoritarians rely on a perceived popular mandate to continue their abuse. Voting can decisively deny them that mandate. Do not give up prematurely.

                          VOTE. VOTE. VOTE.

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                          wrote last edited by
                          #19

                          @drahardja I think most people's problem isn't that they think Trump won't leave office via an election, it's that the DNC doesn't have a democratic primary process and they are just going to run Gavin Newsom, who will win probably, and while better than Trump, we're looking at a marginally better rightwing president whether he or JD wins 2028, making it seem like voting doesn't matter -- the choice is oligarch-aligned rightwinger vs oligarch-aligned rightwinger at the end of the day as always.

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                          • emerson61@toot.communityE emerson61@toot.community

                            @drahardja I think most people's problem isn't that they think Trump won't leave office via an election, it's that the DNC doesn't have a democratic primary process and they are just going to run Gavin Newsom, who will win probably, and while better than Trump, we're looking at a marginally better rightwing president whether he or JD wins 2028, making it seem like voting doesn't matter -- the choice is oligarch-aligned rightwinger vs oligarch-aligned rightwinger at the end of the day as always.

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                            #20

                            @Emerson61 I will vote for Newsom if that’s the alternative I’m given.

                            Here’s my perspective: https://sfba.social/@drahardja/116377823558685082

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                            • emerson61@toot.communityE emerson61@toot.community

                              @drahardja I think most people's problem isn't that they think Trump won't leave office via an election, it's that the DNC doesn't have a democratic primary process and they are just going to run Gavin Newsom, who will win probably, and while better than Trump, we're looking at a marginally better rightwing president whether he or JD wins 2028, making it seem like voting doesn't matter -- the choice is oligarch-aligned rightwinger vs oligarch-aligned rightwinger at the end of the day as always.

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                              wrote last edited by
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                              @Emerson61 @drahardja I would bet money (but not on Polymarkets) that Pritzker runs in 2028. But that doesn't really matter now. 2028 is far away. We should be focusing on the midterms and flipping as many R seats as possible.

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                              • emerson61@toot.communityE emerson61@toot.community

                                @drahardja I think most people's problem isn't that they think Trump won't leave office via an election, it's that the DNC doesn't have a democratic primary process and they are just going to run Gavin Newsom, who will win probably, and while better than Trump, we're looking at a marginally better rightwing president whether he or JD wins 2028, making it seem like voting doesn't matter -- the choice is oligarch-aligned rightwinger vs oligarch-aligned rightwinger at the end of the day as always.

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                                #22

                                @Emerson61 @drahardja

                                Absurd. There will be a Democratic Primary. It will be riveting and get the entire nation fired up. The best candidate will win the nomination and crush the Republican candidate.

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                                • maccruiskeen@social.linux.pizzaM maccruiskeen@social.linux.pizza

                                  @Emerson61 @drahardja I would bet money (but not on Polymarkets) that Pritzker runs in 2028. But that doesn't really matter now. 2028 is far away. We should be focusing on the midterms and flipping as many R seats as possible.

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                                  @maccruiskeen @Emerson61 @drahardja

                                  He will certainly run. We will see if he is any good. The best candidate will prevail. That's the way the primaries work.

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                                  • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

                                    People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump. He had more than twice the time Trump has had to intimidate, corrupt, and destroy Hungary’s systems of voting. And yet, voting unseated him.

                                    PLEASE do not preemptively give up on voting. Voting still works in the US, and it is quite likely that our voting infrastructure will far outlive Trump and his destructive party.

                                    Authoritarians rely on a perceived popular mandate to continue their abuse. Voting can decisively deny them that mandate. Do not give up prematurely.

                                    VOTE. VOTE. VOTE.

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                                    @drahardja first, good job to hungarian people! Second, if they can do it, then the US citizens can as well. Good luck for the 3rd November midterm elections!

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                                    • emerson61@toot.communityE emerson61@toot.community

                                      @drahardja I think most people's problem isn't that they think Trump won't leave office via an election, it's that the DNC doesn't have a democratic primary process and they are just going to run Gavin Newsom, who will win probably, and while better than Trump, we're looking at a marginally better rightwing president whether he or JD wins 2028, making it seem like voting doesn't matter -- the choice is oligarch-aligned rightwinger vs oligarch-aligned rightwinger at the end of the day as always.

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                                      @Emerson61 @drahardja

                                      Do you think TISZA has a democratic primary process??
                                      TISZA gave party members the choice between three predetermined candidates in each district. (Just check their wikipedia site). The Democratic party in the USA is more democratic and open than that.

                                      Also Newsom is to the left of Magyar (and I hate Newsom, he's awful).

                                      And several leftist parties decided to not run at all in order to unify opposition votes in Hungary.

                                      But some leftist US Americans would rather endlessly complain about Democrats' primary process without realizing how lucky you are because you actually do get to choose your candidates in primaries. That's not the standard everywhere!

                                      Hungarian leftists were pragmatic instead of choosing perfection, that's how they got rid of Orbán.

                                      #Hungary #USpol #Magyar #Newsom

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                                      • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

                                        @Emerson61 I will vote for Newsom if that’s the alternative I’m given.

                                        Here’s my perspective: https://sfba.social/@drahardja/116377823558685082

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                                        @drahardja @Emerson61 And Newsom is a fine example of why the primaries are so very important because we really do not want that used car salesman.

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                                        • mab_813@fedi.atM mab_813@fedi.at

                                          @Emerson61 @drahardja

                                          Do you think TISZA has a democratic primary process??
                                          TISZA gave party members the choice between three predetermined candidates in each district. (Just check their wikipedia site). The Democratic party in the USA is more democratic and open than that.

                                          Also Newsom is to the left of Magyar (and I hate Newsom, he's awful).

                                          And several leftist parties decided to not run at all in order to unify opposition votes in Hungary.

                                          But some leftist US Americans would rather endlessly complain about Democrats' primary process without realizing how lucky you are because you actually do get to choose your candidates in primaries. That's not the standard everywhere!

                                          Hungarian leftists were pragmatic instead of choosing perfection, that's how they got rid of Orbán.

                                          #Hungary #USpol #Magyar #Newsom

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                                          @Mab_813 @Emerson61 @drahardja The disdain you have comes from not being present to watch how it happens in practice.

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