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  3. People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump.

People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump.

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  • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

    People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump. He had more than twice the time Trump has had to intimidate, corrupt, and destroy Hungary’s systems of voting. And yet, voting unseated him.

    PLEASE do not preemptively give up on voting. Voting still works in the US, and it is quite likely that our voting infrastructure will far outlive Trump and his destructive party.

    Authoritarians rely on a perceived popular mandate to continue their abuse. Voting can decisively deny them that mandate. Do not give up prematurely.

    VOTE. VOTE. VOTE.

    brucemirken@mas.toB This user is from outside of this forum
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    @drahardja True. Also true: Be prepared in case a desperate and cornered Trump tries something crazy and dangerous.

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    • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

      People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump. He had more than twice the time Trump has had to intimidate, corrupt, and destroy Hungary’s systems of voting. And yet, voting unseated him.

      PLEASE do not preemptively give up on voting. Voting still works in the US, and it is quite likely that our voting infrastructure will far outlive Trump and his destructive party.

      Authoritarians rely on a perceived popular mandate to continue their abuse. Voting can decisively deny them that mandate. Do not give up prematurely.

      VOTE. VOTE. VOTE.

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      @drahardja Yes.

      And then, once the Democrats are in power, do NOT let them sleep until they prosecute everyone anywhere near the Republican party who aided in Trump's lawbreaking and ban the party itself.

      Otherwise, they will just run again in the next election. It's not over until you show them they can't do this again.

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      • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

        People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump. He had more than twice the time Trump has had to intimidate, corrupt, and destroy Hungary’s systems of voting. And yet, voting unseated him.

        PLEASE do not preemptively give up on voting. Voting still works in the US, and it is quite likely that our voting infrastructure will far outlive Trump and his destructive party.

        Authoritarians rely on a perceived popular mandate to continue their abuse. Voting can decisively deny them that mandate. Do not give up prematurely.

        VOTE. VOTE. VOTE.

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        @drahardja

        related:

        TechAltar (@Techaltar@mas.to)

        Fidesz' massive defeat comes despite: - multiple active Russian disinformation campaigns - the US government actively supporting Fidesz - Fidesz owning the majority of TV & radio stations + newspapers - Fidesz having gerrymandered the crap out of the country - many documented cases of voter suppression & paying disinfrenchised voters for support - Fidesz pouring unprecedented $$$ into their campaign Feeling a little proud of my country for the first time in a while 🇭🇺

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        • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

          People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump. He had more than twice the time Trump has had to intimidate, corrupt, and destroy Hungary’s systems of voting. And yet, voting unseated him.

          PLEASE do not preemptively give up on voting. Voting still works in the US, and it is quite likely that our voting infrastructure will far outlive Trump and his destructive party.

          Authoritarians rely on a perceived popular mandate to continue their abuse. Voting can decisively deny them that mandate. Do not give up prematurely.

          VOTE. VOTE. VOTE.

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          @drahardja

          if enough of us wrote/emailed/phoned/screamed outside their office to our congressional reps to IMPEACH or face voter outrage leading to being voted out, and kept it up, we could regain our democracy

          https://5calls.org

          citizensimpeachment.com/

          https://couragefordemocracy.com/#candidates

          https://vote.gov/register

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          • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

            People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump. He had more than twice the time Trump has had to intimidate, corrupt, and destroy Hungary’s systems of voting. And yet, voting unseated him.

            PLEASE do not preemptively give up on voting. Voting still works in the US, and it is quite likely that our voting infrastructure will far outlive Trump and his destructive party.

            Authoritarians rely on a perceived popular mandate to continue their abuse. Voting can decisively deny them that mandate. Do not give up prematurely.

            VOTE. VOTE. VOTE.

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            @drahardja

            In addition to voting, try to reduce the fascist fossil fuel funding that elevates goons like Fico, Orban, & Trump.

            https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/01/politics/elon-musk-2024-election-spending-millions

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            Conservative billionaire Timothy Mellon has given $75 million to Trump’s super PAC and $25 million to a pro-Kennedy group.

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            https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/20/us/politics/koch-network-2024-election-trump.html

            As with Assad & Yanukovych, follow the money and erode the financial corruption too.

            Go after their tech proxies too.
            Pop the AI bubble and soon.
            Ditto cryptocurrency.

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              @drahardja

              In addition to voting, try to reduce the fascist fossil fuel funding that elevates goons like Fico, Orban, & Trump.

              https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/01/politics/elon-musk-2024-election-spending-millions

              Link Preview Image
              This Billionaire Donated $100 Million to Trump and RFK Jr.'s Super PACs

              Conservative billionaire Timothy Mellon has given $75 million to Trump’s super PAC and $25 million to a pro-Kennedy group.

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              https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/20/us/politics/koch-network-2024-election-trump.html

              As with Assad & Yanukovych, follow the money and erode the financial corruption too.

              Go after their tech proxies too.
              Pop the AI bubble and soon.
              Ditto cryptocurrency.

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              2/

              They all need investigation.

              1. SpaceX $288,723,409
              2. Adelson Clinic/Miriam Adelson $146,881,700
              3. Uline Inc $146,027,201
              4. Citadel LLC $108,669,316
              5. Susquehanna International Group $101,468,362
              6. Andreessen Horowitz $89,036,553
              7. Empower Parents PAC $82,500,000
              8. Coinbase $79,008,020
              9. Elliott Management $68,846,510
              10. Securing American Greatness $67,558,284
              11. Senate Leadership Fund $67,445,300
              12. Club for Growth $59,846,594
              13. Koch Inc $49,092,685

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              • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

                People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump. He had more than twice the time Trump has had to intimidate, corrupt, and destroy Hungary’s systems of voting. And yet, voting unseated him.

                PLEASE do not preemptively give up on voting. Voting still works in the US, and it is quite likely that our voting infrastructure will far outlive Trump and his destructive party.

                Authoritarians rely on a perceived popular mandate to continue their abuse. Voting can decisively deny them that mandate. Do not give up prematurely.

                VOTE. VOTE. VOTE.

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                @drahardja A victory for Hungary and the EU, a lifeline for Ukraine, another nail in Trump's coffin and an overdue setback for Putin. Great news!

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                • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                  2/

                  They all need investigation.

                  1. SpaceX $288,723,409
                  2. Adelson Clinic/Miriam Adelson $146,881,700
                  3. Uline Inc $146,027,201
                  4. Citadel LLC $108,669,316
                  5. Susquehanna International Group $101,468,362
                  6. Andreessen Horowitz $89,036,553
                  7. Empower Parents PAC $82,500,000
                  8. Coinbase $79,008,020
                  9. Elliott Management $68,846,510
                  10. Securing American Greatness $67,558,284
                  11. Senate Leadership Fund $67,445,300
                  12. Club for Growth $59,846,594
                  13. Koch Inc $49,092,685

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                  3/

                  Focus attention on the public corruption of these entities.

                  14. Blackstone Group $48,609,890
                  15.  Stand Together Chamber of Commerce $44,801,948
                  16. Restoration PAC $41,168,363
                  17. Crownquest Operating $35,752,512
                  18. Bigelow Aerospace $34,991,590
                  19. Building America's Future $33,670,000
                  20. Stephens Inc $27,343,518
                  21. British American Tobacco $26,175,838
                  22. American Prosperity Alliance $22,549,000
                  23. Manzanita Management Group $22,159,143

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                  • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                    3/

                    Focus attention on the public corruption of these entities.

                    14. Blackstone Group $48,609,890
                    15.  Stand Together Chamber of Commerce $44,801,948
                    16. Restoration PAC $41,168,363
                    17. Crownquest Operating $35,752,512
                    18. Bigelow Aerospace $34,991,590
                    19. Building America's Future $33,670,000
                    20. Stephens Inc $27,343,518
                    21. British American Tobacco $26,175,838
                    22. American Prosperity Alliance $22,549,000
                    23. Manzanita Management Group $22,159,143

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                    4/

                    These entities need to be outed.

                    24. America First Action/America First Policies $21,724,798
                    25. Mountaire Corp $21,375,080
                    26. Reyes Holdings $21,192,607
                    27. Energy Transfer LP $19,321,695
                    28. Hendricks Holding Co $19,306,538

                    Just a moment...

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                      4/

                      These entities need to be outed.

                      24. America First Action/America First Policies $21,724,798
                      25. Mountaire Corp $21,375,080
                      26. Reyes Holdings $21,192,607
                      27. Energy Transfer LP $19,321,695
                      28. Hendricks Holding Co $19,306,538

                      Just a moment...

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                      5/

                      #FFFO

                      Fund a Fascist & Find Out.

                      1. Elon Musk $291,482,587
                      2. Timothy Mellon $197,047,200
                      3. Miriam Adelson $148,304,900
                      4. Richard Uihlein $143,498,936
                      5. Ken Griffin $108,402,284
                      6. Jeff Yass $101,128,680
                      7. Paul E. Singer $66,800,800
                      8. Marc Andreessen $42,365,113
                      9. Stephen Schwarzman $40,202,039
                      10. Timothy Dunn $35,780,200
                      11. Rob Bigelow $34,991,500
                      12. Diane Hendricks $33,165,417
                      13. JJ Ricketts $32,273,650
                      14. Shirley W. Ryan $32,198,116

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                      • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                        5/

                        #FFFO

                        Fund a Fascist & Find Out.

                        1. Elon Musk $291,482,587
                        2. Timothy Mellon $197,047,200
                        3. Miriam Adelson $148,304,900
                        4. Richard Uihlein $143,498,936
                        5. Ken Griffin $108,402,284
                        6. Jeff Yass $101,128,680
                        7. Paul E. Singer $66,800,800
                        8. Marc Andreessen $42,365,113
                        9. Stephen Schwarzman $40,202,039
                        10. Timothy Dunn $35,780,200
                        11. Rob Bigelow $34,991,500
                        12. Diane Hendricks $33,165,417
                        13. JJ Ricketts $32,273,650
                        14. Shirley W. Ryan $32,198,116

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                        6/

                        These people fund sedition & coup attempts.

                        15. Warren A. Stephens $25,895,650
                        16. Isaac & Laura Perlmutter $25,344,890
                        17. Vince & Linda McMahon $23,961,659
                        18. Ronnie & Nina Cameron $21,372,500
                        19. Jan Koum $20,855,091
                        20. Thomas Klingenstein $17,410,263
                        21. Rob Walton $17,572,601
                        22. Janet J. Duchossois $16,306,033
                        23. Howard W. Lutnick $16,503,667
                        24. Kelcy L. Warren $16,151,105
                        25. Walter W. Buckley Jr. $15,522,500
                        26. Thomas Peterffy $14,305,900
                        27. Anthony Pratt $14,000,000

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                        • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                          6/

                          These people fund sedition & coup attempts.

                          15. Warren A. Stephens $25,895,650
                          16. Isaac & Laura Perlmutter $25,344,890
                          17. Vince & Linda McMahon $23,961,659
                          18. Ronnie & Nina Cameron $21,372,500
                          19. Jan Koum $20,855,091
                          20. Thomas Klingenstein $17,410,263
                          21. Rob Walton $17,572,601
                          22. Janet J. Duchossois $16,306,033
                          23. Howard W. Lutnick $16,503,667
                          24. Kelcy L. Warren $16,151,105
                          25. Walter W. Buckley Jr. $15,522,500
                          26. Thomas Peterffy $14,305,900
                          27. Anthony Pratt $14,000,000

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                          7/

                          28. Sherrilyn Fisher $13,299,894
                          29. David Millstone $13,413,486
                          30. Lynne Walton $13,037,750
                          31. Charles Schwab $12,801,600
                          32. Stephen Wynn $12,518,750
                          33. Anthony Lomangino $9,529,705
                          34. J. Christopher Reyes $9,536,425
                          35. Jay Winters Faison $9,084,324
                          36. James Davis $8,497,854
                          37. John W. Childs $8,694,286
                          38. Patricia Duggan $8,446,099
                          39. Richard G. Haworth $7,500,800
                          40. Marc J. Rowan $8,721,299
                          41. Jeffrey Specher, Kelly Loeffler $7,052,013
                          42. John L. Nau III $7,030,556

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                            7/

                            28. Sherrilyn Fisher $13,299,894
                            29. David Millstone $13,413,486
                            30. Lynne Walton $13,037,750
                            31. Charles Schwab $12,801,600
                            32. Stephen Wynn $12,518,750
                            33. Anthony Lomangino $9,529,705
                            34. J. Christopher Reyes $9,536,425
                            35. Jay Winters Faison $9,084,324
                            36. James Davis $8,497,854
                            37. John W. Childs $8,694,286
                            38. Patricia Duggan $8,446,099
                            39. Richard G. Haworth $7,500,800
                            40. Marc J. Rowan $8,721,299
                            41. Jeffrey Specher, Kelly Loeffler $7,052,013
                            42. John L. Nau III $7,030,556

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                            8/

                            43. John & Shannon V. Addison $6,757,065
                            44. Robert H. Book $6,986,387
                            45. Susan Fox $6,687,414
                            46. Patricia Perkins-Leone $6,606,600
                            47. Jeffrey Hildebrand $6,508,389
                            48. Bernard Marcus $9,397,150
                            49. Steve Brodie $6,481,298
                            50. Daniel Newlin $6,063,928
                            51. Trevor D. Rees-Jones $5,765,124
                            52. Ross & Sarah Perot $5,643,416
                            53. Harold C. Simmons $5,596,530
                            54. Kelly Navarro $5,373,100
                            55. Alice Walton $10,248,000
                            56. Rob Granieri $5,587,899

                            Just a moment...

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                            • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

                              People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump. He had more than twice the time Trump has had to intimidate, corrupt, and destroy Hungary’s systems of voting. And yet, voting unseated him.

                              PLEASE do not preemptively give up on voting. Voting still works in the US, and it is quite likely that our voting infrastructure will far outlive Trump and his destructive party.

                              Authoritarians rely on a perceived popular mandate to continue their abuse. Voting can decisively deny them that mandate. Do not give up prematurely.

                              VOTE. VOTE. VOTE.

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                              @drahardja 👍💯👍

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                                43. John & Shannon V. Addison $6,757,065
                                44. Robert H. Book $6,986,387
                                45. Susan Fox $6,687,414
                                46. Patricia Perkins-Leone $6,606,600
                                47. Jeffrey Hildebrand $6,508,389
                                48. Bernard Marcus $9,397,150
                                49. Steve Brodie $6,481,298
                                50. Daniel Newlin $6,063,928
                                51. Trevor D. Rees-Jones $5,765,124
                                52. Ross & Sarah Perot $5,643,416
                                53. Harold C. Simmons $5,596,530
                                54. Kelly Navarro $5,373,100
                                55. Alice Walton $10,248,000
                                56. Rob Granieri $5,587,899

                                Just a moment...

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                                @Npars01
                                Who are the biggest doners?
                                @mastoreaderio unroll please

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                                • cdarwin@c.imC cdarwin@c.im

                                  @Npars01
                                  Who are the biggest doners?
                                  @mastoreaderio unroll please

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                                  @cdarwin here's the unrolled thread: https://mastoreader.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fc.im%2F%40cdarwin%2F116394673361342000

                                  Next time, kindly set the visibility to 'Mentioned people only' and mention only me (@mastoreaderio). This ensures we avoid spamming others' timelines and threads unless you intend for others to see the unrolled thread link as well.

                                  Thank you!

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                                  • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

                                    People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump. He had more than twice the time Trump has had to intimidate, corrupt, and destroy Hungary’s systems of voting. And yet, voting unseated him.

                                    PLEASE do not preemptively give up on voting. Voting still works in the US, and it is quite likely that our voting infrastructure will far outlive Trump and his destructive party.

                                    Authoritarians rely on a perceived popular mandate to continue their abuse. Voting can decisively deny them that mandate. Do not give up prematurely.

                                    VOTE. VOTE. VOTE.

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                                    @drahardja I think most people's problem isn't that they think Trump won't leave office via an election, it's that the DNC doesn't have a democratic primary process and they are just going to run Gavin Newsom, who will win probably, and while better than Trump, we're looking at a marginally better rightwing president whether he or JD wins 2028, making it seem like voting doesn't matter -- the choice is oligarch-aligned rightwinger vs oligarch-aligned rightwinger at the end of the day as always.

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                                    • emerson61@toot.communityE emerson61@toot.community

                                      @drahardja I think most people's problem isn't that they think Trump won't leave office via an election, it's that the DNC doesn't have a democratic primary process and they are just going to run Gavin Newsom, who will win probably, and while better than Trump, we're looking at a marginally better rightwing president whether he or JD wins 2028, making it seem like voting doesn't matter -- the choice is oligarch-aligned rightwinger vs oligarch-aligned rightwinger at the end of the day as always.

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                                      @Emerson61 I will vote for Newsom if that’s the alternative I’m given.

                                      Here’s my perspective: https://sfba.social/@drahardja/116377823558685082

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                                      • emerson61@toot.communityE emerson61@toot.community

                                        @drahardja I think most people's problem isn't that they think Trump won't leave office via an election, it's that the DNC doesn't have a democratic primary process and they are just going to run Gavin Newsom, who will win probably, and while better than Trump, we're looking at a marginally better rightwing president whether he or JD wins 2028, making it seem like voting doesn't matter -- the choice is oligarch-aligned rightwinger vs oligarch-aligned rightwinger at the end of the day as always.

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                                        @Emerson61 @drahardja I would bet money (but not on Polymarkets) that Pritzker runs in 2028. But that doesn't really matter now. 2028 is far away. We should be focusing on the midterms and flipping as many R seats as possible.

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                                        • emerson61@toot.communityE emerson61@toot.community

                                          @drahardja I think most people's problem isn't that they think Trump won't leave office via an election, it's that the DNC doesn't have a democratic primary process and they are just going to run Gavin Newsom, who will win probably, and while better than Trump, we're looking at a marginally better rightwing president whether he or JD wins 2028, making it seem like voting doesn't matter -- the choice is oligarch-aligned rightwinger vs oligarch-aligned rightwinger at the end of the day as always.

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                                          @Emerson61 @drahardja

                                          Absurd. There will be a Democratic Primary. It will be riveting and get the entire nation fired up. The best candidate will win the nomination and crush the Republican candidate.

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