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  3. People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump.

People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump.

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  • drahardja@sfba.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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    People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump. He had more than twice the time Trump has had to intimidate, corrupt, and destroy Hungary’s systems of voting. And yet, voting unseated him.

    PLEASE do not preemptively give up on voting. Voting still works in the US, and it is quite likely that our voting infrastructure will far outlive Trump and his destructive party.

    Authoritarians rely on a perceived popular mandate to continue their abuse. Voting can decisively deny them that mandate. Do not give up prematurely.

    VOTE. VOTE. VOTE.

    scruffyjunco@sfba.socialS brucemirken@mas.toB orionkidder@mas.toO joriki@infosec.exchangeJ libramoon@mastodon.socialL 16 Replies Last reply
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    • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

      People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump. He had more than twice the time Trump has had to intimidate, corrupt, and destroy Hungary’s systems of voting. And yet, voting unseated him.

      PLEASE do not preemptively give up on voting. Voting still works in the US, and it is quite likely that our voting infrastructure will far outlive Trump and his destructive party.

      Authoritarians rely on a perceived popular mandate to continue their abuse. Voting can decisively deny them that mandate. Do not give up prematurely.

      VOTE. VOTE. VOTE.

      scruffyjunco@sfba.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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      scruffyjunco@sfba.social
      wrote last edited by
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      @drahardja

      Vote in numbers too massive to ignore.

      Check your registration well before Election Day to be sure you're still on the roll.

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      • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

        People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump. He had more than twice the time Trump has had to intimidate, corrupt, and destroy Hungary’s systems of voting. And yet, voting unseated him.

        PLEASE do not preemptively give up on voting. Voting still works in the US, and it is quite likely that our voting infrastructure will far outlive Trump and his destructive party.

        Authoritarians rely on a perceived popular mandate to continue their abuse. Voting can decisively deny them that mandate. Do not give up prematurely.

        VOTE. VOTE. VOTE.

        brucemirken@mas.toB This user is from outside of this forum
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        @drahardja True. Also true: Be prepared in case a desperate and cornered Trump tries something crazy and dangerous.

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        • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

          People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump. He had more than twice the time Trump has had to intimidate, corrupt, and destroy Hungary’s systems of voting. And yet, voting unseated him.

          PLEASE do not preemptively give up on voting. Voting still works in the US, and it is quite likely that our voting infrastructure will far outlive Trump and his destructive party.

          Authoritarians rely on a perceived popular mandate to continue their abuse. Voting can decisively deny them that mandate. Do not give up prematurely.

          VOTE. VOTE. VOTE.

          orionkidder@mas.toO This user is from outside of this forum
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          wrote last edited by
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          @drahardja Yes.

          And then, once the Democrats are in power, do NOT let them sleep until they prosecute everyone anywhere near the Republican party who aided in Trump's lawbreaking and ban the party itself.

          Otherwise, they will just run again in the next election. It's not over until you show them they can't do this again.

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          • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

            People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump. He had more than twice the time Trump has had to intimidate, corrupt, and destroy Hungary’s systems of voting. And yet, voting unseated him.

            PLEASE do not preemptively give up on voting. Voting still works in the US, and it is quite likely that our voting infrastructure will far outlive Trump and his destructive party.

            Authoritarians rely on a perceived popular mandate to continue their abuse. Voting can decisively deny them that mandate. Do not give up prematurely.

            VOTE. VOTE. VOTE.

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            @drahardja

            related:

            TechAltar (@Techaltar@mas.to)

            Fidesz' massive defeat comes despite: - multiple active Russian disinformation campaigns - the US government actively supporting Fidesz - Fidesz owning the majority of TV & radio stations + newspapers - Fidesz having gerrymandered the crap out of the country - many documented cases of voter suppression & paying disinfrenchised voters for support - Fidesz pouring unprecedented $$$ into their campaign Feeling a little proud of my country for the first time in a while 🇭🇺

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            • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

              People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump. He had more than twice the time Trump has had to intimidate, corrupt, and destroy Hungary’s systems of voting. And yet, voting unseated him.

              PLEASE do not preemptively give up on voting. Voting still works in the US, and it is quite likely that our voting infrastructure will far outlive Trump and his destructive party.

              Authoritarians rely on a perceived popular mandate to continue their abuse. Voting can decisively deny them that mandate. Do not give up prematurely.

              VOTE. VOTE. VOTE.

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              @drahardja

              if enough of us wrote/emailed/phoned/screamed outside their office to our congressional reps to IMPEACH or face voter outrage leading to being voted out, and kept it up, we could regain our democracy

              https://5calls.org

              citizensimpeachment.com/

              https://couragefordemocracy.com/#candidates

              https://vote.gov/register

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              • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

                People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump. He had more than twice the time Trump has had to intimidate, corrupt, and destroy Hungary’s systems of voting. And yet, voting unseated him.

                PLEASE do not preemptively give up on voting. Voting still works in the US, and it is quite likely that our voting infrastructure will far outlive Trump and his destructive party.

                Authoritarians rely on a perceived popular mandate to continue their abuse. Voting can decisively deny them that mandate. Do not give up prematurely.

                VOTE. VOTE. VOTE.

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                @drahardja

                In addition to voting, try to reduce the fascist fossil fuel funding that elevates goons like Fico, Orban, & Trump.

                https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/01/politics/elon-musk-2024-election-spending-millions

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                This Billionaire Donated $100 Million to Trump and RFK Jr.'s Super PACs

                Conservative billionaire Timothy Mellon has given $75 million to Trump’s super PAC and $25 million to a pro-Kennedy group.

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                https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/20/us/politics/koch-network-2024-election-trump.html

                As with Assad & Yanukovych, follow the money and erode the financial corruption too.

                Go after their tech proxies too.
                Pop the AI bubble and soon.
                Ditto cryptocurrency.

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                  @drahardja

                  In addition to voting, try to reduce the fascist fossil fuel funding that elevates goons like Fico, Orban, & Trump.

                  https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/01/politics/elon-musk-2024-election-spending-millions

                  Link Preview Image
                  This Billionaire Donated $100 Million to Trump and RFK Jr.'s Super PACs

                  Conservative billionaire Timothy Mellon has given $75 million to Trump’s super PAC and $25 million to a pro-Kennedy group.

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                  Link Preview Image
                  The $100 Million Question: Did Trump Accept $100 Million from Adelson for West Bank Annexation?

                  In American politics, money doesn’t just talk… it screams, often echoing through the halls of power in ways that keep the public guessing for years. ... Read More

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                  Yahoo News (uk.news.yahoo.com)

                  https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/20/us/politics/koch-network-2024-election-trump.html

                  As with Assad & Yanukovych, follow the money and erode the financial corruption too.

                  Go after their tech proxies too.
                  Pop the AI bubble and soon.
                  Ditto cryptocurrency.

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                  2/

                  They all need investigation.

                  1. SpaceX $288,723,409
                  2. Adelson Clinic/Miriam Adelson $146,881,700
                  3. Uline Inc $146,027,201
                  4. Citadel LLC $108,669,316
                  5. Susquehanna International Group $101,468,362
                  6. Andreessen Horowitz $89,036,553
                  7. Empower Parents PAC $82,500,000
                  8. Coinbase $79,008,020
                  9. Elliott Management $68,846,510
                  10. Securing American Greatness $67,558,284
                  11. Senate Leadership Fund $67,445,300
                  12. Club for Growth $59,846,594
                  13. Koch Inc $49,092,685

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                  • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

                    People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump. He had more than twice the time Trump has had to intimidate, corrupt, and destroy Hungary’s systems of voting. And yet, voting unseated him.

                    PLEASE do not preemptively give up on voting. Voting still works in the US, and it is quite likely that our voting infrastructure will far outlive Trump and his destructive party.

                    Authoritarians rely on a perceived popular mandate to continue their abuse. Voting can decisively deny them that mandate. Do not give up prematurely.

                    VOTE. VOTE. VOTE.

                    kgw@cosocial.caK This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @drahardja A victory for Hungary and the EU, a lifeline for Ukraine, another nail in Trump's coffin and an overdue setback for Putin. Great news!

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                      2/

                      They all need investigation.

                      1. SpaceX $288,723,409
                      2. Adelson Clinic/Miriam Adelson $146,881,700
                      3. Uline Inc $146,027,201
                      4. Citadel LLC $108,669,316
                      5. Susquehanna International Group $101,468,362
                      6. Andreessen Horowitz $89,036,553
                      7. Empower Parents PAC $82,500,000
                      8. Coinbase $79,008,020
                      9. Elliott Management $68,846,510
                      10. Securing American Greatness $67,558,284
                      11. Senate Leadership Fund $67,445,300
                      12. Club for Growth $59,846,594
                      13. Koch Inc $49,092,685

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                      3/

                      Focus attention on the public corruption of these entities.

                      14. Blackstone Group $48,609,890
                      15.  Stand Together Chamber of Commerce $44,801,948
                      16. Restoration PAC $41,168,363
                      17. Crownquest Operating $35,752,512
                      18. Bigelow Aerospace $34,991,590
                      19. Building America's Future $33,670,000
                      20. Stephens Inc $27,343,518
                      21. British American Tobacco $26,175,838
                      22. American Prosperity Alliance $22,549,000
                      23. Manzanita Management Group $22,159,143

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                        3/

                        Focus attention on the public corruption of these entities.

                        14. Blackstone Group $48,609,890
                        15.  Stand Together Chamber of Commerce $44,801,948
                        16. Restoration PAC $41,168,363
                        17. Crownquest Operating $35,752,512
                        18. Bigelow Aerospace $34,991,590
                        19. Building America's Future $33,670,000
                        20. Stephens Inc $27,343,518
                        21. British American Tobacco $26,175,838
                        22. American Prosperity Alliance $22,549,000
                        23. Manzanita Management Group $22,159,143

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                        4/

                        These entities need to be outed.

                        24. America First Action/America First Policies $21,724,798
                        25. Mountaire Corp $21,375,080
                        26. Reyes Holdings $21,192,607
                        27. Energy Transfer LP $19,321,695
                        28. Hendricks Holding Co $19,306,538

                        Just a moment...

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                          4/

                          These entities need to be outed.

                          24. America First Action/America First Policies $21,724,798
                          25. Mountaire Corp $21,375,080
                          26. Reyes Holdings $21,192,607
                          27. Energy Transfer LP $19,321,695
                          28. Hendricks Holding Co $19,306,538

                          Just a moment...

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                          wrote last edited by
                          #12

                          5/

                          #FFFO

                          Fund a Fascist & Find Out.

                          1. Elon Musk $291,482,587
                          2. Timothy Mellon $197,047,200
                          3. Miriam Adelson $148,304,900
                          4. Richard Uihlein $143,498,936
                          5. Ken Griffin $108,402,284
                          6. Jeff Yass $101,128,680
                          7. Paul E. Singer $66,800,800
                          8. Marc Andreessen $42,365,113
                          9. Stephen Schwarzman $40,202,039
                          10. Timothy Dunn $35,780,200
                          11. Rob Bigelow $34,991,500
                          12. Diane Hendricks $33,165,417
                          13. JJ Ricketts $32,273,650
                          14. Shirley W. Ryan $32,198,116

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                          • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                            5/

                            #FFFO

                            Fund a Fascist & Find Out.

                            1. Elon Musk $291,482,587
                            2. Timothy Mellon $197,047,200
                            3. Miriam Adelson $148,304,900
                            4. Richard Uihlein $143,498,936
                            5. Ken Griffin $108,402,284
                            6. Jeff Yass $101,128,680
                            7. Paul E. Singer $66,800,800
                            8. Marc Andreessen $42,365,113
                            9. Stephen Schwarzman $40,202,039
                            10. Timothy Dunn $35,780,200
                            11. Rob Bigelow $34,991,500
                            12. Diane Hendricks $33,165,417
                            13. JJ Ricketts $32,273,650
                            14. Shirley W. Ryan $32,198,116

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                            6/

                            These people fund sedition & coup attempts.

                            15. Warren A. Stephens $25,895,650
                            16. Isaac & Laura Perlmutter $25,344,890
                            17. Vince & Linda McMahon $23,961,659
                            18. Ronnie & Nina Cameron $21,372,500
                            19. Jan Koum $20,855,091
                            20. Thomas Klingenstein $17,410,263
                            21. Rob Walton $17,572,601
                            22. Janet J. Duchossois $16,306,033
                            23. Howard W. Lutnick $16,503,667
                            24. Kelcy L. Warren $16,151,105
                            25. Walter W. Buckley Jr. $15,522,500
                            26. Thomas Peterffy $14,305,900
                            27. Anthony Pratt $14,000,000

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                            • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                              6/

                              These people fund sedition & coup attempts.

                              15. Warren A. Stephens $25,895,650
                              16. Isaac & Laura Perlmutter $25,344,890
                              17. Vince & Linda McMahon $23,961,659
                              18. Ronnie & Nina Cameron $21,372,500
                              19. Jan Koum $20,855,091
                              20. Thomas Klingenstein $17,410,263
                              21. Rob Walton $17,572,601
                              22. Janet J. Duchossois $16,306,033
                              23. Howard W. Lutnick $16,503,667
                              24. Kelcy L. Warren $16,151,105
                              25. Walter W. Buckley Jr. $15,522,500
                              26. Thomas Peterffy $14,305,900
                              27. Anthony Pratt $14,000,000

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                              7/

                              28. Sherrilyn Fisher $13,299,894
                              29. David Millstone $13,413,486
                              30. Lynne Walton $13,037,750
                              31. Charles Schwab $12,801,600
                              32. Stephen Wynn $12,518,750
                              33. Anthony Lomangino $9,529,705
                              34. J. Christopher Reyes $9,536,425
                              35. Jay Winters Faison $9,084,324
                              36. James Davis $8,497,854
                              37. John W. Childs $8,694,286
                              38. Patricia Duggan $8,446,099
                              39. Richard G. Haworth $7,500,800
                              40. Marc J. Rowan $8,721,299
                              41. Jeffrey Specher, Kelly Loeffler $7,052,013
                              42. John L. Nau III $7,030,556

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                                7/

                                28. Sherrilyn Fisher $13,299,894
                                29. David Millstone $13,413,486
                                30. Lynne Walton $13,037,750
                                31. Charles Schwab $12,801,600
                                32. Stephen Wynn $12,518,750
                                33. Anthony Lomangino $9,529,705
                                34. J. Christopher Reyes $9,536,425
                                35. Jay Winters Faison $9,084,324
                                36. James Davis $8,497,854
                                37. John W. Childs $8,694,286
                                38. Patricia Duggan $8,446,099
                                39. Richard G. Haworth $7,500,800
                                40. Marc J. Rowan $8,721,299
                                41. Jeffrey Specher, Kelly Loeffler $7,052,013
                                42. John L. Nau III $7,030,556

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                                8/

                                43. John & Shannon V. Addison $6,757,065
                                44. Robert H. Book $6,986,387
                                45. Susan Fox $6,687,414
                                46. Patricia Perkins-Leone $6,606,600
                                47. Jeffrey Hildebrand $6,508,389
                                48. Bernard Marcus $9,397,150
                                49. Steve Brodie $6,481,298
                                50. Daniel Newlin $6,063,928
                                51. Trevor D. Rees-Jones $5,765,124
                                52. Ross & Sarah Perot $5,643,416
                                53. Harold C. Simmons $5,596,530
                                54. Kelly Navarro $5,373,100
                                55. Alice Walton $10,248,000
                                56. Rob Granieri $5,587,899

                                Just a moment...

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                                • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

                                  People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump. He had more than twice the time Trump has had to intimidate, corrupt, and destroy Hungary’s systems of voting. And yet, voting unseated him.

                                  PLEASE do not preemptively give up on voting. Voting still works in the US, and it is quite likely that our voting infrastructure will far outlive Trump and his destructive party.

                                  Authoritarians rely on a perceived popular mandate to continue their abuse. Voting can decisively deny them that mandate. Do not give up prematurely.

                                  VOTE. VOTE. VOTE.

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                                  @drahardja 👍💯👍

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                                    43. John & Shannon V. Addison $6,757,065
                                    44. Robert H. Book $6,986,387
                                    45. Susan Fox $6,687,414
                                    46. Patricia Perkins-Leone $6,606,600
                                    47. Jeffrey Hildebrand $6,508,389
                                    48. Bernard Marcus $9,397,150
                                    49. Steve Brodie $6,481,298
                                    50. Daniel Newlin $6,063,928
                                    51. Trevor D. Rees-Jones $5,765,124
                                    52. Ross & Sarah Perot $5,643,416
                                    53. Harold C. Simmons $5,596,530
                                    54. Kelly Navarro $5,373,100
                                    55. Alice Walton $10,248,000
                                    56. Rob Granieri $5,587,899

                                    Just a moment...

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                                    @Npars01
                                    Who are the biggest doners?
                                    @mastoreaderio unroll please

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                                    • cdarwin@c.imC cdarwin@c.im

                                      @Npars01
                                      Who are the biggest doners?
                                      @mastoreaderio unroll please

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                                      mastoreaderio@mastodon.social
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                                      #18

                                      @cdarwin here's the unrolled thread: https://mastoreader.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fc.im%2F%40cdarwin%2F116394673361342000

                                      Next time, kindly set the visibility to 'Mentioned people only' and mention only me (@mastoreaderio). This ensures we avoid spamming others' timelines and threads unless you intend for others to see the unrolled thread link as well.

                                      Thank you!

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                                      • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

                                        People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump. He had more than twice the time Trump has had to intimidate, corrupt, and destroy Hungary’s systems of voting. And yet, voting unseated him.

                                        PLEASE do not preemptively give up on voting. Voting still works in the US, and it is quite likely that our voting infrastructure will far outlive Trump and his destructive party.

                                        Authoritarians rely on a perceived popular mandate to continue their abuse. Voting can decisively deny them that mandate. Do not give up prematurely.

                                        VOTE. VOTE. VOTE.

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                                        @drahardja I think most people's problem isn't that they think Trump won't leave office via an election, it's that the DNC doesn't have a democratic primary process and they are just going to run Gavin Newsom, who will win probably, and while better than Trump, we're looking at a marginally better rightwing president whether he or JD wins 2028, making it seem like voting doesn't matter -- the choice is oligarch-aligned rightwinger vs oligarch-aligned rightwinger at the end of the day as always.

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                                        • emerson61@toot.communityE emerson61@toot.community

                                          @drahardja I think most people's problem isn't that they think Trump won't leave office via an election, it's that the DNC doesn't have a democratic primary process and they are just going to run Gavin Newsom, who will win probably, and while better than Trump, we're looking at a marginally better rightwing president whether he or JD wins 2028, making it seem like voting doesn't matter -- the choice is oligarch-aligned rightwinger vs oligarch-aligned rightwinger at the end of the day as always.

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                                          @Emerson61 I will vote for Newsom if that’s the alternative I’m given.

                                          Here’s my perspective: https://sfba.social/@drahardja/116377823558685082

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