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  3. People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump.

People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump.

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  • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

    People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump. He had more than twice the time Trump has had to intimidate, corrupt, and destroy Hungary’s systems of voting. And yet, voting unseated him.

    PLEASE do not preemptively give up on voting. Voting still works in the US, and it is quite likely that our voting infrastructure will far outlive Trump and his destructive party.

    Authoritarians rely on a perceived popular mandate to continue their abuse. Voting can decisively deny them that mandate. Do not give up prematurely.

    VOTE. VOTE. VOTE.

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    @drahardja

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    • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

      People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump. He had more than twice the time Trump has had to intimidate, corrupt, and destroy Hungary’s systems of voting. And yet, voting unseated him.

      PLEASE do not preemptively give up on voting. Voting still works in the US, and it is quite likely that our voting infrastructure will far outlive Trump and his destructive party.

      Authoritarians rely on a perceived popular mandate to continue their abuse. Voting can decisively deny them that mandate. Do not give up prematurely.

      VOTE. VOTE. VOTE.

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      @drahardja

      In addition to voting, try to reduce the fascist fossil fuel funding that elevates goons like Fico, Orban, & Trump.

      https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/01/politics/elon-musk-2024-election-spending-millions

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      This Billionaire Donated $100 Million to Trump and RFK Jr.'s Super PACs

      Conservative billionaire Timothy Mellon has given $75 million to Trump’s super PAC and $25 million to a pro-Kennedy group.

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      https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/20/us/politics/koch-network-2024-election-trump.html

      As with Assad & Yanukovych, follow the money and erode the financial corruption too.

      Go after their tech proxies too.
      Pop the AI bubble and soon.
      Ditto cryptocurrency.

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      • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

        @drahardja

        In addition to voting, try to reduce the fascist fossil fuel funding that elevates goons like Fico, Orban, & Trump.

        https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/01/politics/elon-musk-2024-election-spending-millions

        Link Preview Image
        This Billionaire Donated $100 Million to Trump and RFK Jr.'s Super PACs

        Conservative billionaire Timothy Mellon has given $75 million to Trump’s super PAC and $25 million to a pro-Kennedy group.

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        The $100 Million Question: Did Trump Accept $100 Million from Adelson for West Bank Annexation?

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        https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/20/us/politics/koch-network-2024-election-trump.html

        As with Assad & Yanukovych, follow the money and erode the financial corruption too.

        Go after their tech proxies too.
        Pop the AI bubble and soon.
        Ditto cryptocurrency.

        1/

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        2/

        They all need investigation.

        1. SpaceX $288,723,409
        2. Adelson Clinic/Miriam Adelson $146,881,700
        3. Uline Inc $146,027,201
        4. Citadel LLC $108,669,316
        5. Susquehanna International Group $101,468,362
        6. Andreessen Horowitz $89,036,553
        7. Empower Parents PAC $82,500,000
        8. Coinbase $79,008,020
        9. Elliott Management $68,846,510
        10. Securing American Greatness $67,558,284
        11. Senate Leadership Fund $67,445,300
        12. Club for Growth $59,846,594
        13. Koch Inc $49,092,685

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        • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

          People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump. He had more than twice the time Trump has had to intimidate, corrupt, and destroy Hungary’s systems of voting. And yet, voting unseated him.

          PLEASE do not preemptively give up on voting. Voting still works in the US, and it is quite likely that our voting infrastructure will far outlive Trump and his destructive party.

          Authoritarians rely on a perceived popular mandate to continue their abuse. Voting can decisively deny them that mandate. Do not give up prematurely.

          VOTE. VOTE. VOTE.

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          wrote last edited by
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          @drahardja A victory for Hungary and the EU, a lifeline for Ukraine, another nail in Trump's coffin and an overdue setback for Putin. Great news!

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          • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

            2/

            They all need investigation.

            1. SpaceX $288,723,409
            2. Adelson Clinic/Miriam Adelson $146,881,700
            3. Uline Inc $146,027,201
            4. Citadel LLC $108,669,316
            5. Susquehanna International Group $101,468,362
            6. Andreessen Horowitz $89,036,553
            7. Empower Parents PAC $82,500,000
            8. Coinbase $79,008,020
            9. Elliott Management $68,846,510
            10. Securing American Greatness $67,558,284
            11. Senate Leadership Fund $67,445,300
            12. Club for Growth $59,846,594
            13. Koch Inc $49,092,685

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            3/

            Focus attention on the public corruption of these entities.

            14. Blackstone Group $48,609,890
            15.  Stand Together Chamber of Commerce $44,801,948
            16. Restoration PAC $41,168,363
            17. Crownquest Operating $35,752,512
            18. Bigelow Aerospace $34,991,590
            19. Building America's Future $33,670,000
            20. Stephens Inc $27,343,518
            21. British American Tobacco $26,175,838
            22. American Prosperity Alliance $22,549,000
            23. Manzanita Management Group $22,159,143

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            • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

              3/

              Focus attention on the public corruption of these entities.

              14. Blackstone Group $48,609,890
              15.  Stand Together Chamber of Commerce $44,801,948
              16. Restoration PAC $41,168,363
              17. Crownquest Operating $35,752,512
              18. Bigelow Aerospace $34,991,590
              19. Building America's Future $33,670,000
              20. Stephens Inc $27,343,518
              21. British American Tobacco $26,175,838
              22. American Prosperity Alliance $22,549,000
              23. Manzanita Management Group $22,159,143

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              4/

              These entities need to be outed.

              24. America First Action/America First Policies $21,724,798
              25. Mountaire Corp $21,375,080
              26. Reyes Holdings $21,192,607
              27. Energy Transfer LP $19,321,695
              28. Hendricks Holding Co $19,306,538

              Just a moment...

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                4/

                These entities need to be outed.

                24. America First Action/America First Policies $21,724,798
                25. Mountaire Corp $21,375,080
                26. Reyes Holdings $21,192,607
                27. Energy Transfer LP $19,321,695
                28. Hendricks Holding Co $19,306,538

                Just a moment...

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                5/

                #FFFO

                Fund a Fascist & Find Out.

                1. Elon Musk $291,482,587
                2. Timothy Mellon $197,047,200
                3. Miriam Adelson $148,304,900
                4. Richard Uihlein $143,498,936
                5. Ken Griffin $108,402,284
                6. Jeff Yass $101,128,680
                7. Paul E. Singer $66,800,800
                8. Marc Andreessen $42,365,113
                9. Stephen Schwarzman $40,202,039
                10. Timothy Dunn $35,780,200
                11. Rob Bigelow $34,991,500
                12. Diane Hendricks $33,165,417
                13. JJ Ricketts $32,273,650
                14. Shirley W. Ryan $32,198,116

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                • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                  5/

                  #FFFO

                  Fund a Fascist & Find Out.

                  1. Elon Musk $291,482,587
                  2. Timothy Mellon $197,047,200
                  3. Miriam Adelson $148,304,900
                  4. Richard Uihlein $143,498,936
                  5. Ken Griffin $108,402,284
                  6. Jeff Yass $101,128,680
                  7. Paul E. Singer $66,800,800
                  8. Marc Andreessen $42,365,113
                  9. Stephen Schwarzman $40,202,039
                  10. Timothy Dunn $35,780,200
                  11. Rob Bigelow $34,991,500
                  12. Diane Hendricks $33,165,417
                  13. JJ Ricketts $32,273,650
                  14. Shirley W. Ryan $32,198,116

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                  6/

                  These people fund sedition & coup attempts.

                  15. Warren A. Stephens $25,895,650
                  16. Isaac & Laura Perlmutter $25,344,890
                  17. Vince & Linda McMahon $23,961,659
                  18. Ronnie & Nina Cameron $21,372,500
                  19. Jan Koum $20,855,091
                  20. Thomas Klingenstein $17,410,263
                  21. Rob Walton $17,572,601
                  22. Janet J. Duchossois $16,306,033
                  23. Howard W. Lutnick $16,503,667
                  24. Kelcy L. Warren $16,151,105
                  25. Walter W. Buckley Jr. $15,522,500
                  26. Thomas Peterffy $14,305,900
                  27. Anthony Pratt $14,000,000

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                  • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                    6/

                    These people fund sedition & coup attempts.

                    15. Warren A. Stephens $25,895,650
                    16. Isaac & Laura Perlmutter $25,344,890
                    17. Vince & Linda McMahon $23,961,659
                    18. Ronnie & Nina Cameron $21,372,500
                    19. Jan Koum $20,855,091
                    20. Thomas Klingenstein $17,410,263
                    21. Rob Walton $17,572,601
                    22. Janet J. Duchossois $16,306,033
                    23. Howard W. Lutnick $16,503,667
                    24. Kelcy L. Warren $16,151,105
                    25. Walter W. Buckley Jr. $15,522,500
                    26. Thomas Peterffy $14,305,900
                    27. Anthony Pratt $14,000,000

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                    7/

                    28. Sherrilyn Fisher $13,299,894
                    29. David Millstone $13,413,486
                    30. Lynne Walton $13,037,750
                    31. Charles Schwab $12,801,600
                    32. Stephen Wynn $12,518,750
                    33. Anthony Lomangino $9,529,705
                    34. J. Christopher Reyes $9,536,425
                    35. Jay Winters Faison $9,084,324
                    36. James Davis $8,497,854
                    37. John W. Childs $8,694,286
                    38. Patricia Duggan $8,446,099
                    39. Richard G. Haworth $7,500,800
                    40. Marc J. Rowan $8,721,299
                    41. Jeffrey Specher, Kelly Loeffler $7,052,013
                    42. John L. Nau III $7,030,556

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                    • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                      7/

                      28. Sherrilyn Fisher $13,299,894
                      29. David Millstone $13,413,486
                      30. Lynne Walton $13,037,750
                      31. Charles Schwab $12,801,600
                      32. Stephen Wynn $12,518,750
                      33. Anthony Lomangino $9,529,705
                      34. J. Christopher Reyes $9,536,425
                      35. Jay Winters Faison $9,084,324
                      36. James Davis $8,497,854
                      37. John W. Childs $8,694,286
                      38. Patricia Duggan $8,446,099
                      39. Richard G. Haworth $7,500,800
                      40. Marc J. Rowan $8,721,299
                      41. Jeffrey Specher, Kelly Loeffler $7,052,013
                      42. John L. Nau III $7,030,556

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                      8/

                      43. John & Shannon V. Addison $6,757,065
                      44. Robert H. Book $6,986,387
                      45. Susan Fox $6,687,414
                      46. Patricia Perkins-Leone $6,606,600
                      47. Jeffrey Hildebrand $6,508,389
                      48. Bernard Marcus $9,397,150
                      49. Steve Brodie $6,481,298
                      50. Daniel Newlin $6,063,928
                      51. Trevor D. Rees-Jones $5,765,124
                      52. Ross & Sarah Perot $5,643,416
                      53. Harold C. Simmons $5,596,530
                      54. Kelly Navarro $5,373,100
                      55. Alice Walton $10,248,000
                      56. Rob Granieri $5,587,899

                      Just a moment...

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                      • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

                        People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump. He had more than twice the time Trump has had to intimidate, corrupt, and destroy Hungary’s systems of voting. And yet, voting unseated him.

                        PLEASE do not preemptively give up on voting. Voting still works in the US, and it is quite likely that our voting infrastructure will far outlive Trump and his destructive party.

                        Authoritarians rely on a perceived popular mandate to continue their abuse. Voting can decisively deny them that mandate. Do not give up prematurely.

                        VOTE. VOTE. VOTE.

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                        @drahardja 👍💯👍

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                        • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                          8/

                          43. John & Shannon V. Addison $6,757,065
                          44. Robert H. Book $6,986,387
                          45. Susan Fox $6,687,414
                          46. Patricia Perkins-Leone $6,606,600
                          47. Jeffrey Hildebrand $6,508,389
                          48. Bernard Marcus $9,397,150
                          49. Steve Brodie $6,481,298
                          50. Daniel Newlin $6,063,928
                          51. Trevor D. Rees-Jones $5,765,124
                          52. Ross & Sarah Perot $5,643,416
                          53. Harold C. Simmons $5,596,530
                          54. Kelly Navarro $5,373,100
                          55. Alice Walton $10,248,000
                          56. Rob Granieri $5,587,899

                          Just a moment...

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                          @Npars01
                          Who are the biggest doners?
                          @mastoreaderio unroll please

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                          • cdarwin@c.imC cdarwin@c.im

                            @Npars01
                            Who are the biggest doners?
                            @mastoreaderio unroll please

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                            @cdarwin here's the unrolled thread: https://mastoreader.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fc.im%2F%40cdarwin%2F116394673361342000

                            Next time, kindly set the visibility to 'Mentioned people only' and mention only me (@mastoreaderio). This ensures we avoid spamming others' timelines and threads unless you intend for others to see the unrolled thread link as well.

                            Thank you!

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                            • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

                              People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump. He had more than twice the time Trump has had to intimidate, corrupt, and destroy Hungary’s systems of voting. And yet, voting unseated him.

                              PLEASE do not preemptively give up on voting. Voting still works in the US, and it is quite likely that our voting infrastructure will far outlive Trump and his destructive party.

                              Authoritarians rely on a perceived popular mandate to continue their abuse. Voting can decisively deny them that mandate. Do not give up prematurely.

                              VOTE. VOTE. VOTE.

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                              wrote last edited by
                              #19

                              @drahardja I think most people's problem isn't that they think Trump won't leave office via an election, it's that the DNC doesn't have a democratic primary process and they are just going to run Gavin Newsom, who will win probably, and while better than Trump, we're looking at a marginally better rightwing president whether he or JD wins 2028, making it seem like voting doesn't matter -- the choice is oligarch-aligned rightwinger vs oligarch-aligned rightwinger at the end of the day as always.

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                                @drahardja I think most people's problem isn't that they think Trump won't leave office via an election, it's that the DNC doesn't have a democratic primary process and they are just going to run Gavin Newsom, who will win probably, and while better than Trump, we're looking at a marginally better rightwing president whether he or JD wins 2028, making it seem like voting doesn't matter -- the choice is oligarch-aligned rightwinger vs oligarch-aligned rightwinger at the end of the day as always.

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                                @Emerson61 I will vote for Newsom if that’s the alternative I’m given.

                                Here’s my perspective: https://sfba.social/@drahardja/116377823558685082

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                                • emerson61@toot.communityE emerson61@toot.community

                                  @drahardja I think most people's problem isn't that they think Trump won't leave office via an election, it's that the DNC doesn't have a democratic primary process and they are just going to run Gavin Newsom, who will win probably, and while better than Trump, we're looking at a marginally better rightwing president whether he or JD wins 2028, making it seem like voting doesn't matter -- the choice is oligarch-aligned rightwinger vs oligarch-aligned rightwinger at the end of the day as always.

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                                  @Emerson61 @drahardja I would bet money (but not on Polymarkets) that Pritzker runs in 2028. But that doesn't really matter now. 2028 is far away. We should be focusing on the midterms and flipping as many R seats as possible.

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                                  • emerson61@toot.communityE emerson61@toot.community

                                    @drahardja I think most people's problem isn't that they think Trump won't leave office via an election, it's that the DNC doesn't have a democratic primary process and they are just going to run Gavin Newsom, who will win probably, and while better than Trump, we're looking at a marginally better rightwing president whether he or JD wins 2028, making it seem like voting doesn't matter -- the choice is oligarch-aligned rightwinger vs oligarch-aligned rightwinger at the end of the day as always.

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                                    @Emerson61 @drahardja

                                    Absurd. There will be a Democratic Primary. It will be riveting and get the entire nation fired up. The best candidate will win the nomination and crush the Republican candidate.

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                                    • maccruiskeen@social.linux.pizzaM maccruiskeen@social.linux.pizza

                                      @Emerson61 @drahardja I would bet money (but not on Polymarkets) that Pritzker runs in 2028. But that doesn't really matter now. 2028 is far away. We should be focusing on the midterms and flipping as many R seats as possible.

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                                      @maccruiskeen @Emerson61 @drahardja

                                      He will certainly run. We will see if he is any good. The best candidate will prevail. That's the way the primaries work.

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                                      • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

                                        People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump. He had more than twice the time Trump has had to intimidate, corrupt, and destroy Hungary’s systems of voting. And yet, voting unseated him.

                                        PLEASE do not preemptively give up on voting. Voting still works in the US, and it is quite likely that our voting infrastructure will far outlive Trump and his destructive party.

                                        Authoritarians rely on a perceived popular mandate to continue their abuse. Voting can decisively deny them that mandate. Do not give up prematurely.

                                        VOTE. VOTE. VOTE.

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                                        @drahardja first, good job to hungarian people! Second, if they can do it, then the US citizens can as well. Good luck for the 3rd November midterm elections!

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                                        • emerson61@toot.communityE emerson61@toot.community

                                          @drahardja I think most people's problem isn't that they think Trump won't leave office via an election, it's that the DNC doesn't have a democratic primary process and they are just going to run Gavin Newsom, who will win probably, and while better than Trump, we're looking at a marginally better rightwing president whether he or JD wins 2028, making it seem like voting doesn't matter -- the choice is oligarch-aligned rightwinger vs oligarch-aligned rightwinger at the end of the day as always.

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                                          @Emerson61 @drahardja

                                          Do you think TISZA has a democratic primary process??
                                          TISZA gave party members the choice between three predetermined candidates in each district. (Just check their wikipedia site). The Democratic party in the USA is more democratic and open than that.

                                          Also Newsom is to the left of Magyar (and I hate Newsom, he's awful).

                                          And several leftist parties decided to not run at all in order to unify opposition votes in Hungary.

                                          But some leftist US Americans would rather endlessly complain about Democrats' primary process without realizing how lucky you are because you actually do get to choose your candidates in primaries. That's not the standard everywhere!

                                          Hungarian leftists were pragmatic instead of choosing perfection, that's how they got rid of Orbán.

                                          #Hungary #USpol #Magyar #Newsom

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