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  3. People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump.

People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump.

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  • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

    People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump. He had more than twice the time Trump has had to intimidate, corrupt, and destroy Hungary’s systems of voting. And yet, voting unseated him.

    PLEASE do not preemptively give up on voting. Voting still works in the US, and it is quite likely that our voting infrastructure will far outlive Trump and his destructive party.

    Authoritarians rely on a perceived popular mandate to continue their abuse. Voting can decisively deny them that mandate. Do not give up prematurely.

    VOTE. VOTE. VOTE.

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    @drahardja

    In addition to voting, try to reduce the fascist fossil fuel funding that elevates goons like Fico, Orban, & Trump.

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/01/politics/elon-musk-2024-election-spending-millions

    Link Preview Image
    This Billionaire Donated $100 Million to Trump and RFK Jr.'s Super PACs

    Conservative billionaire Timothy Mellon has given $75 million to Trump’s super PAC and $25 million to a pro-Kennedy group.

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    Rolling Stone (www.rollingstone.com)

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    The $100 Million Question: Did Trump Accept $100 Million from Adelson for West Bank Annexation?

    In American politics, money doesn’t just talk… it screams, often echoing through the halls of power in ways that keep the public guessing for years. ... Read More

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    Yahoo News (uk.news.yahoo.com)

    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/20/us/politics/koch-network-2024-election-trump.html

    As with Assad & Yanukovych, follow the money and erode the financial corruption too.

    Go after their tech proxies too.
    Pop the AI bubble and soon.
    Ditto cryptocurrency.

    1/

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    • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

      @drahardja

      In addition to voting, try to reduce the fascist fossil fuel funding that elevates goons like Fico, Orban, & Trump.

      https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/01/politics/elon-musk-2024-election-spending-millions

      Link Preview Image
      This Billionaire Donated $100 Million to Trump and RFK Jr.'s Super PACs

      Conservative billionaire Timothy Mellon has given $75 million to Trump’s super PAC and $25 million to a pro-Kennedy group.

      favicon

      Rolling Stone (www.rollingstone.com)

      Link Preview Image
      The $100 Million Question: Did Trump Accept $100 Million from Adelson for West Bank Annexation?

      In American politics, money doesn’t just talk… it screams, often echoing through the halls of power in ways that keep the public guessing for years. ... Read More

      favicon

      Yahoo News (uk.news.yahoo.com)

      https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/20/us/politics/koch-network-2024-election-trump.html

      As with Assad & Yanukovych, follow the money and erode the financial corruption too.

      Go after their tech proxies too.
      Pop the AI bubble and soon.
      Ditto cryptocurrency.

      1/

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      2/

      They all need investigation.

      1. SpaceX $288,723,409
      2. Adelson Clinic/Miriam Adelson $146,881,700
      3. Uline Inc $146,027,201
      4. Citadel LLC $108,669,316
      5. Susquehanna International Group $101,468,362
      6. Andreessen Horowitz $89,036,553
      7. Empower Parents PAC $82,500,000
      8. Coinbase $79,008,020
      9. Elliott Management $68,846,510
      10. Securing American Greatness $67,558,284
      11. Senate Leadership Fund $67,445,300
      12. Club for Growth $59,846,594
      13. Koch Inc $49,092,685

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      • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

        People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump. He had more than twice the time Trump has had to intimidate, corrupt, and destroy Hungary’s systems of voting. And yet, voting unseated him.

        PLEASE do not preemptively give up on voting. Voting still works in the US, and it is quite likely that our voting infrastructure will far outlive Trump and his destructive party.

        Authoritarians rely on a perceived popular mandate to continue their abuse. Voting can decisively deny them that mandate. Do not give up prematurely.

        VOTE. VOTE. VOTE.

        kgw@cosocial.caK This user is from outside of this forum
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        kgw@cosocial.ca
        wrote last edited by
        #9

        @drahardja A victory for Hungary and the EU, a lifeline for Ukraine, another nail in Trump's coffin and an overdue setback for Putin. Great news!

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        • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

          2/

          They all need investigation.

          1. SpaceX $288,723,409
          2. Adelson Clinic/Miriam Adelson $146,881,700
          3. Uline Inc $146,027,201
          4. Citadel LLC $108,669,316
          5. Susquehanna International Group $101,468,362
          6. Andreessen Horowitz $89,036,553
          7. Empower Parents PAC $82,500,000
          8. Coinbase $79,008,020
          9. Elliott Management $68,846,510
          10. Securing American Greatness $67,558,284
          11. Senate Leadership Fund $67,445,300
          12. Club for Growth $59,846,594
          13. Koch Inc $49,092,685

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          3/

          Focus attention on the public corruption of these entities.

          14. Blackstone Group $48,609,890
          15.  Stand Together Chamber of Commerce $44,801,948
          16. Restoration PAC $41,168,363
          17. Crownquest Operating $35,752,512
          18. Bigelow Aerospace $34,991,590
          19. Building America's Future $33,670,000
          20. Stephens Inc $27,343,518
          21. British American Tobacco $26,175,838
          22. American Prosperity Alliance $22,549,000
          23. Manzanita Management Group $22,159,143

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          • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

            3/

            Focus attention on the public corruption of these entities.

            14. Blackstone Group $48,609,890
            15.  Stand Together Chamber of Commerce $44,801,948
            16. Restoration PAC $41,168,363
            17. Crownquest Operating $35,752,512
            18. Bigelow Aerospace $34,991,590
            19. Building America's Future $33,670,000
            20. Stephens Inc $27,343,518
            21. British American Tobacco $26,175,838
            22. American Prosperity Alliance $22,549,000
            23. Manzanita Management Group $22,159,143

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            4/

            These entities need to be outed.

            24. America First Action/America First Policies $21,724,798
            25. Mountaire Corp $21,375,080
            26. Reyes Holdings $21,192,607
            27. Energy Transfer LP $19,321,695
            28. Hendricks Holding Co $19,306,538

            Just a moment...

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            • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

              4/

              These entities need to be outed.

              24. America First Action/America First Policies $21,724,798
              25. Mountaire Corp $21,375,080
              26. Reyes Holdings $21,192,607
              27. Energy Transfer LP $19,321,695
              28. Hendricks Holding Co $19,306,538

              Just a moment...

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              5/

              #FFFO

              Fund a Fascist & Find Out.

              1. Elon Musk $291,482,587
              2. Timothy Mellon $197,047,200
              3. Miriam Adelson $148,304,900
              4. Richard Uihlein $143,498,936
              5. Ken Griffin $108,402,284
              6. Jeff Yass $101,128,680
              7. Paul E. Singer $66,800,800
              8. Marc Andreessen $42,365,113
              9. Stephen Schwarzman $40,202,039
              10. Timothy Dunn $35,780,200
              11. Rob Bigelow $34,991,500
              12. Diane Hendricks $33,165,417
              13. JJ Ricketts $32,273,650
              14. Shirley W. Ryan $32,198,116

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              • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                5/

                #FFFO

                Fund a Fascist & Find Out.

                1. Elon Musk $291,482,587
                2. Timothy Mellon $197,047,200
                3. Miriam Adelson $148,304,900
                4. Richard Uihlein $143,498,936
                5. Ken Griffin $108,402,284
                6. Jeff Yass $101,128,680
                7. Paul E. Singer $66,800,800
                8. Marc Andreessen $42,365,113
                9. Stephen Schwarzman $40,202,039
                10. Timothy Dunn $35,780,200
                11. Rob Bigelow $34,991,500
                12. Diane Hendricks $33,165,417
                13. JJ Ricketts $32,273,650
                14. Shirley W. Ryan $32,198,116

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                6/

                These people fund sedition & coup attempts.

                15. Warren A. Stephens $25,895,650
                16. Isaac & Laura Perlmutter $25,344,890
                17. Vince & Linda McMahon $23,961,659
                18. Ronnie & Nina Cameron $21,372,500
                19. Jan Koum $20,855,091
                20. Thomas Klingenstein $17,410,263
                21. Rob Walton $17,572,601
                22. Janet J. Duchossois $16,306,033
                23. Howard W. Lutnick $16,503,667
                24. Kelcy L. Warren $16,151,105
                25. Walter W. Buckley Jr. $15,522,500
                26. Thomas Peterffy $14,305,900
                27. Anthony Pratt $14,000,000

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                • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                  6/

                  These people fund sedition & coup attempts.

                  15. Warren A. Stephens $25,895,650
                  16. Isaac & Laura Perlmutter $25,344,890
                  17. Vince & Linda McMahon $23,961,659
                  18. Ronnie & Nina Cameron $21,372,500
                  19. Jan Koum $20,855,091
                  20. Thomas Klingenstein $17,410,263
                  21. Rob Walton $17,572,601
                  22. Janet J. Duchossois $16,306,033
                  23. Howard W. Lutnick $16,503,667
                  24. Kelcy L. Warren $16,151,105
                  25. Walter W. Buckley Jr. $15,522,500
                  26. Thomas Peterffy $14,305,900
                  27. Anthony Pratt $14,000,000

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                  7/

                  28. Sherrilyn Fisher $13,299,894
                  29. David Millstone $13,413,486
                  30. Lynne Walton $13,037,750
                  31. Charles Schwab $12,801,600
                  32. Stephen Wynn $12,518,750
                  33. Anthony Lomangino $9,529,705
                  34. J. Christopher Reyes $9,536,425
                  35. Jay Winters Faison $9,084,324
                  36. James Davis $8,497,854
                  37. John W. Childs $8,694,286
                  38. Patricia Duggan $8,446,099
                  39. Richard G. Haworth $7,500,800
                  40. Marc J. Rowan $8,721,299
                  41. Jeffrey Specher, Kelly Loeffler $7,052,013
                  42. John L. Nau III $7,030,556

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                  • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                    7/

                    28. Sherrilyn Fisher $13,299,894
                    29. David Millstone $13,413,486
                    30. Lynne Walton $13,037,750
                    31. Charles Schwab $12,801,600
                    32. Stephen Wynn $12,518,750
                    33. Anthony Lomangino $9,529,705
                    34. J. Christopher Reyes $9,536,425
                    35. Jay Winters Faison $9,084,324
                    36. James Davis $8,497,854
                    37. John W. Childs $8,694,286
                    38. Patricia Duggan $8,446,099
                    39. Richard G. Haworth $7,500,800
                    40. Marc J. Rowan $8,721,299
                    41. Jeffrey Specher, Kelly Loeffler $7,052,013
                    42. John L. Nau III $7,030,556

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                    8/

                    43. John & Shannon V. Addison $6,757,065
                    44. Robert H. Book $6,986,387
                    45. Susan Fox $6,687,414
                    46. Patricia Perkins-Leone $6,606,600
                    47. Jeffrey Hildebrand $6,508,389
                    48. Bernard Marcus $9,397,150
                    49. Steve Brodie $6,481,298
                    50. Daniel Newlin $6,063,928
                    51. Trevor D. Rees-Jones $5,765,124
                    52. Ross & Sarah Perot $5,643,416
                    53. Harold C. Simmons $5,596,530
                    54. Kelly Navarro $5,373,100
                    55. Alice Walton $10,248,000
                    56. Rob Granieri $5,587,899

                    Just a moment...

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                    • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

                      People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump. He had more than twice the time Trump has had to intimidate, corrupt, and destroy Hungary’s systems of voting. And yet, voting unseated him.

                      PLEASE do not preemptively give up on voting. Voting still works in the US, and it is quite likely that our voting infrastructure will far outlive Trump and his destructive party.

                      Authoritarians rely on a perceived popular mandate to continue their abuse. Voting can decisively deny them that mandate. Do not give up prematurely.

                      VOTE. VOTE. VOTE.

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                      wrote last edited by
                      #16

                      @drahardja 👍💯👍

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                      • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                        8/

                        43. John & Shannon V. Addison $6,757,065
                        44. Robert H. Book $6,986,387
                        45. Susan Fox $6,687,414
                        46. Patricia Perkins-Leone $6,606,600
                        47. Jeffrey Hildebrand $6,508,389
                        48. Bernard Marcus $9,397,150
                        49. Steve Brodie $6,481,298
                        50. Daniel Newlin $6,063,928
                        51. Trevor D. Rees-Jones $5,765,124
                        52. Ross & Sarah Perot $5,643,416
                        53. Harold C. Simmons $5,596,530
                        54. Kelly Navarro $5,373,100
                        55. Alice Walton $10,248,000
                        56. Rob Granieri $5,587,899

                        Just a moment...

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                        #17

                        @Npars01
                        Who are the biggest doners?
                        @mastoreaderio unroll please

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                        • cdarwin@c.imC cdarwin@c.im

                          @Npars01
                          Who are the biggest doners?
                          @mastoreaderio unroll please

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                          wrote last edited by
                          #18

                          @cdarwin here's the unrolled thread: https://mastoreader.io?url=https%3A%2F%2Fc.im%2F%40cdarwin%2F116394673361342000

                          Next time, kindly set the visibility to 'Mentioned people only' and mention only me (@mastoreaderio). This ensures we avoid spamming others' timelines and threads unless you intend for others to see the unrolled thread link as well.

                          Thank you!

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                          • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

                            People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump. He had more than twice the time Trump has had to intimidate, corrupt, and destroy Hungary’s systems of voting. And yet, voting unseated him.

                            PLEASE do not preemptively give up on voting. Voting still works in the US, and it is quite likely that our voting infrastructure will far outlive Trump and his destructive party.

                            Authoritarians rely on a perceived popular mandate to continue their abuse. Voting can decisively deny them that mandate. Do not give up prematurely.

                            VOTE. VOTE. VOTE.

                            emerson61@toot.communityE This user is from outside of this forum
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                            wrote last edited by
                            #19

                            @drahardja I think most people's problem isn't that they think Trump won't leave office via an election, it's that the DNC doesn't have a democratic primary process and they are just going to run Gavin Newsom, who will win probably, and while better than Trump, we're looking at a marginally better rightwing president whether he or JD wins 2028, making it seem like voting doesn't matter -- the choice is oligarch-aligned rightwinger vs oligarch-aligned rightwinger at the end of the day as always.

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                            • emerson61@toot.communityE emerson61@toot.community

                              @drahardja I think most people's problem isn't that they think Trump won't leave office via an election, it's that the DNC doesn't have a democratic primary process and they are just going to run Gavin Newsom, who will win probably, and while better than Trump, we're looking at a marginally better rightwing president whether he or JD wins 2028, making it seem like voting doesn't matter -- the choice is oligarch-aligned rightwinger vs oligarch-aligned rightwinger at the end of the day as always.

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                              #20

                              @Emerson61 I will vote for Newsom if that’s the alternative I’m given.

                              Here’s my perspective: https://sfba.social/@drahardja/116377823558685082

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                              • emerson61@toot.communityE emerson61@toot.community

                                @drahardja I think most people's problem isn't that they think Trump won't leave office via an election, it's that the DNC doesn't have a democratic primary process and they are just going to run Gavin Newsom, who will win probably, and while better than Trump, we're looking at a marginally better rightwing president whether he or JD wins 2028, making it seem like voting doesn't matter -- the choice is oligarch-aligned rightwinger vs oligarch-aligned rightwinger at the end of the day as always.

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                                wrote last edited by
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                                @Emerson61 @drahardja I would bet money (but not on Polymarkets) that Pritzker runs in 2028. But that doesn't really matter now. 2028 is far away. We should be focusing on the midterms and flipping as many R seats as possible.

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                                • emerson61@toot.communityE emerson61@toot.community

                                  @drahardja I think most people's problem isn't that they think Trump won't leave office via an election, it's that the DNC doesn't have a democratic primary process and they are just going to run Gavin Newsom, who will win probably, and while better than Trump, we're looking at a marginally better rightwing president whether he or JD wins 2028, making it seem like voting doesn't matter -- the choice is oligarch-aligned rightwinger vs oligarch-aligned rightwinger at the end of the day as always.

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                                  @Emerson61 @drahardja

                                  Absurd. There will be a Democratic Primary. It will be riveting and get the entire nation fired up. The best candidate will win the nomination and crush the Republican candidate.

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                                  • maccruiskeen@social.linux.pizzaM maccruiskeen@social.linux.pizza

                                    @Emerson61 @drahardja I would bet money (but not on Polymarkets) that Pritzker runs in 2028. But that doesn't really matter now. 2028 is far away. We should be focusing on the midterms and flipping as many R seats as possible.

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                                    @maccruiskeen @Emerson61 @drahardja

                                    He will certainly run. We will see if he is any good. The best candidate will prevail. That's the way the primaries work.

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                                    • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

                                      People minimizing Orbán’s defeat in #Hungary through voting, and claiming that the same can’t be done to Donald Trump: Remember that Orbán was in power for SIXTEEN YEARS, that is, 2.5× LONGER than Trump. He had more than twice the time Trump has had to intimidate, corrupt, and destroy Hungary’s systems of voting. And yet, voting unseated him.

                                      PLEASE do not preemptively give up on voting. Voting still works in the US, and it is quite likely that our voting infrastructure will far outlive Trump and his destructive party.

                                      Authoritarians rely on a perceived popular mandate to continue their abuse. Voting can decisively deny them that mandate. Do not give up prematurely.

                                      VOTE. VOTE. VOTE.

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                                      @drahardja first, good job to hungarian people! Second, if they can do it, then the US citizens can as well. Good luck for the 3rd November midterm elections!

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                                      • emerson61@toot.communityE emerson61@toot.community

                                        @drahardja I think most people's problem isn't that they think Trump won't leave office via an election, it's that the DNC doesn't have a democratic primary process and they are just going to run Gavin Newsom, who will win probably, and while better than Trump, we're looking at a marginally better rightwing president whether he or JD wins 2028, making it seem like voting doesn't matter -- the choice is oligarch-aligned rightwinger vs oligarch-aligned rightwinger at the end of the day as always.

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                                        @Emerson61 @drahardja

                                        Do you think TISZA has a democratic primary process??
                                        TISZA gave party members the choice between three predetermined candidates in each district. (Just check their wikipedia site). The Democratic party in the USA is more democratic and open than that.

                                        Also Newsom is to the left of Magyar (and I hate Newsom, he's awful).

                                        And several leftist parties decided to not run at all in order to unify opposition votes in Hungary.

                                        But some leftist US Americans would rather endlessly complain about Democrats' primary process without realizing how lucky you are because you actually do get to choose your candidates in primaries. That's not the standard everywhere!

                                        Hungarian leftists were pragmatic instead of choosing perfection, that's how they got rid of Orbán.

                                        #Hungary #USpol #Magyar #Newsom

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                                          @Emerson61 I will vote for Newsom if that’s the alternative I’m given.

                                          Here’s my perspective: https://sfba.social/@drahardja/116377823558685082

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                                          @drahardja @Emerson61 And Newsom is a fine example of why the primaries are so very important because we really do not want that used car salesman.

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