Hetzner, which many instances rely on, just announced a major across the board price hike.
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@jeff Are these price points reasonable or are people getting ripped off? How much would it cost to run your own server?
Given the economics of RAM at the moment I don't think it's unreasonable... but it's going to push some smaller operators and instances out.
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Given the economics of RAM at the moment I don't think it's unreasonable... but it's going to push some smaller operators and instances out.
@jeff so time for the community to step up, as you say. Maybe also to consider community financed hosting services and… decentralised hosting would be a nice utopia
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@jeff Are these price points reasonable or are people getting ripped off? How much would it cost to run your own server?
@olliestudio45
Can't know with that screenshot only, I'd need to see the hardware. Running your own at home could be cheaper, but a lot of times is unreliable or impossible bc ISP network restrictions.
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@jeff so time for the community to step up, as you say. Maybe also to consider community financed hosting services and… decentralised hosting would be a nice utopia
@olliestudio45 @jeff It is enough for providers to start issuing IPv6 addresses.
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Hetzner, which many instances rely on, just announced a major across the board price hike. A 30% increase isn’t minor.
For larger companies it’s a budget line. For small Mastodon instances, it’s the line between sustainable and underwater.
When servers jump from €49.99 to €64.99 and storage rises too, admins feel it first. Many already subsidize costs.
Some will downsize. Some may shut down.
Decentralization still runs on invoices.
Support your instances.
@jeff and don't forget to shower curses on all the #LLM and #DiffusionModel providers which made this happen (after you've donated to your local instance admins of course)
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Hetzner, which many instances rely on, just announced a major across the board price hike. A 30% increase isn’t minor.
For larger companies it’s a budget line. For small Mastodon instances, it’s the line between sustainable and underwater.
When servers jump from €49.99 to €64.99 and storage rises too, admins feel it first. Many already subsidize costs.
Some will downsize. Some may shut down.
Decentralization still runs on invoices.
Support your instances.
from €49.99
My brother in Allah what are you doing. A fedi instance doesn't require that heavy infrastructure, unless you're doing something horribly wrong. -
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Hetzner, which many instances rely on, just announced a major across the board price hike. A 30% increase isn’t minor.
For larger companies it’s a budget line. For small Mastodon instances, it’s the line between sustainable and underwater.
When servers jump from €49.99 to €64.99 and storage rises too, admins feel it first. Many already subsidize costs.
Some will downsize. Some may shut down.
Decentralization still runs on invoices.
Support your instances.
@jeff Moving to a different hoster is ... too simple?
Or why am I not reading "some may move to a more economically priced hoster"? -
Hetzner, which many instances rely on, just announced a major across the board price hike. A 30% increase isn’t minor.
For larger companies it’s a budget line. For small Mastodon instances, it’s the line between sustainable and underwater.
When servers jump from €49.99 to €64.99 and storage rises too, admins feel it first. Many already subsidize costs.
Some will downsize. Some may shut down.
Decentralization still runs on invoices.
Support your instances.
@jeff OVH announced a similar price hike yesterday, so that's probably most european small and medium instances that are impacted now
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Hetzner, which many instances rely on, just announced a major across the board price hike. A 30% increase isn’t minor.
For larger companies it’s a budget line. For small Mastodon instances, it’s the line between sustainable and underwater.
When servers jump from €49.99 to €64.99 and storage rises too, admins feel it first. Many already subsidize costs.
Some will downsize. Some may shut down.
Decentralization still runs on invoices.
Support your instances.
@jeff Just for reference the official announcement of the price adjustments:
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Hetzner, which many instances rely on, just announced a major across the board price hike. A 30% increase isn’t minor.
For larger companies it’s a budget line. For small Mastodon instances, it’s the line between sustainable and underwater.
When servers jump from €49.99 to €64.99 and storage rises too, admins feel it first. Many already subsidize costs.
Some will downsize. Some may shut down.
Decentralization still runs on invoices.
Support your instances.
@jeff THIS.
Also: if you're like "hehe, I'm not on Hetzner", I've got a bridge to sell you.
Hetzner went there first, but every hosting company is looking down increased hardware and energy costs on top of increased system load because of AI-company crawlers.
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@jeff Moving to a different hoster is ... too simple?
Or why am I not reading "some may move to a more economically priced hoster"?@Bebef @jeff Hetzner isn't the only hoster which is increasing prices. I think Hetzner was just the first to communicate this decision. The reason behind it seems to be the RAM shortage induced by AI companies buying up all the supply.
Moving to cheaper providers will come with less quality (more downtime, worse support, ...). And I'm also pretty sure that US-based companies aren't an option for most instances.
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Hetzner, which many instances rely on, just announced a major across the board price hike. A 30% increase isn’t minor.
For larger companies it’s a budget line. For small Mastodon instances, it’s the line between sustainable and underwater.
When servers jump from €49.99 to €64.99 and storage rises too, admins feel it first. Many already subsidize costs.
Some will downsize. Some may shut down.
Decentralization still runs on invoices.
Support your instances.
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Hetzner, which many instances rely on, just announced a major across the board price hike. A 30% increase isn’t minor.
For larger companies it’s a budget line. For small Mastodon instances, it’s the line between sustainable and underwater.
When servers jump from €49.99 to €64.99 and storage rises too, admins feel it first. Many already subsidize costs.
Some will downsize. Some may shut down.
Decentralization still runs on invoices.
Support your instances.
@jeff
Thanks, AI.
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@jeff THIS.
Also: if you're like "hehe, I'm not on Hetzner", I've got a bridge to sell you.
Hetzner went there first, but every hosting company is looking down increased hardware and energy costs on top of increased system load because of AI-company crawlers.
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Hetzner, which many instances rely on, just announced a major across the board price hike. A 30% increase isn’t minor.
For larger companies it’s a budget line. For small Mastodon instances, it’s the line between sustainable and underwater.
When servers jump from €49.99 to €64.99 and storage rises too, admins feel it first. Many already subsidize costs.
Some will downsize. Some may shut down.
Decentralization still runs on invoices.
Support your instances.
@jeff another way this shitty AI push is making the web worse for everyone
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@jeff another way this shitty AI push is making the web worse for everyone
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Hetzner, which many instances rely on, just announced a major across the board price hike. A 30% increase isn’t minor.
For larger companies it’s a budget line. For small Mastodon instances, it’s the line between sustainable and underwater.
When servers jump from €49.99 to €64.99 and storage rises too, admins feel it first. Many already subsidize costs.
Some will downsize. Some may shut down.
Decentralization still runs on invoices.
Support your instances.
@jeff anyone who was somehow still hosting with them after their pulling the plug on fedi instances for false reports motivated by anti-lgbt hate had it coming
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Hetzner, which many instances rely on, just announced a major across the board price hike. A 30% increase isn’t minor.
For larger companies it’s a budget line. For small Mastodon instances, it’s the line between sustainable and underwater.
When servers jump from €49.99 to €64.99 and storage rises too, admins feel it first. Many already subsidize costs.
Some will downsize. Some may shut down.
Decentralization still runs on invoices.
Support your instances.
@jeff Why would only mastodon admins suffer from this? Hosts of other fedi software should experience similar issues.
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Hetzner, which many instances rely on, just announced a major across the board price hike. A 30% increase isn’t minor.
For larger companies it’s a budget line. For small Mastodon instances, it’s the line between sustainable and underwater.
When servers jump from €49.99 to €64.99 and storage rises too, admins feel it first. Many already subsidize costs.
Some will downsize. Some may shut down.
Decentralization still runs on invoices.
Support your instances.
@jeff do we know why they’re increasing prices? I suspect its the cost of serving all the AI requests and the cost increases for hardware, also due to AI.
