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Hetzner, which many instances rely on, just announced a major across the board price hike.

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  • jeff@mainely.socialJ jeff@mainely.social

    Hetzner, which many instances rely on, just announced a major across the board price hike. A 30% increase isn’t minor.

    For larger companies it’s a budget line. For small Mastodon instances, it’s the line between sustainable and underwater.

    When servers jump from €49.99 to €64.99 and storage rises too, admins feel it first. Many already subsidize costs.

    Some will downsize. Some may shut down.

    Decentralization still runs on invoices.

    Support your instances.

    #Mastoadmin #Hetzner

    tyil@fedi.tyil.nlT This user is from outside of this forum
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    tyil@fedi.tyil.nl
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    #12

    @jeff@mainely.social

    from €49.99
    My brother in Allah what are you doing. A fedi instance doesn't require that heavy infrastructure, unless you're doing something horribly wrong.

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    • jeff@mainely.socialJ jeff@mainely.social

      Hetzner, which many instances rely on, just announced a major across the board price hike. A 30% increase isn’t minor.

      For larger companies it’s a budget line. For small Mastodon instances, it’s the line between sustainable and underwater.

      When servers jump from €49.99 to €64.99 and storage rises too, admins feel it first. Many already subsidize costs.

      Some will downsize. Some may shut down.

      Decentralization still runs on invoices.

      Support your instances.

      #Mastoadmin #Hetzner

      bebef@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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      bebef@mastodon.social
      wrote last edited by
      #13

      @jeff Moving to a different hoster is ... too simple? 🤔 Or why am I not reading "some may move to a more economically priced hoster"?

      lizbian@chaos.socialL robotistry@mstdn.caR 2 Replies Last reply
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      • jeff@mainely.socialJ jeff@mainely.social

        Hetzner, which many instances rely on, just announced a major across the board price hike. A 30% increase isn’t minor.

        For larger companies it’s a budget line. For small Mastodon instances, it’s the line between sustainable and underwater.

        When servers jump from €49.99 to €64.99 and storage rises too, admins feel it first. Many already subsidize costs.

        Some will downsize. Some may shut down.

        Decentralization still runs on invoices.

        Support your instances.

        #Mastoadmin #Hetzner

        edd___y@mstdn.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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        edd___y@mstdn.social
        wrote last edited by
        #14

        @jeff OVH announced a similar price hike yesterday, so that's probably most european small and medium instances that are impacted now

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        • jeff@mainely.socialJ jeff@mainely.social

          Hetzner, which many instances rely on, just announced a major across the board price hike. A 30% increase isn’t minor.

          For larger companies it’s a budget line. For small Mastodon instances, it’s the line between sustainable and underwater.

          When servers jump from €49.99 to €64.99 and storage rises too, admins feel it first. Many already subsidize costs.

          Some will downsize. Some may shut down.

          Decentralization still runs on invoices.

          Support your instances.

          #Mastoadmin #Hetzner

          e11bits@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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          e11bits@mastodon.social
          wrote last edited by
          #15

          @jeff Just for reference the official announcement of the price adjustments:

          Link Preview Image
          Hetzner Price Adjustment - Hetzner Docs

          favicon

          (docs.hetzner.com)

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          • jeff@mainely.socialJ jeff@mainely.social

            Hetzner, which many instances rely on, just announced a major across the board price hike. A 30% increase isn’t minor.

            For larger companies it’s a budget line. For small Mastodon instances, it’s the line between sustainable and underwater.

            When servers jump from €49.99 to €64.99 and storage rises too, admins feel it first. Many already subsidize costs.

            Some will downsize. Some may shut down.

            Decentralization still runs on invoices.

            Support your instances.

            #Mastoadmin #Hetzner

            claudius@darmstadt.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
            claudius@darmstadt.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
            claudius@darmstadt.social
            wrote last edited by
            #16

            @jeff THIS.

            Also: if you're like "hehe, I'm not on Hetzner", I've got a bridge to sell you.

            Hetzner went there first, but every hosting company is looking down increased hardware and energy costs on top of increased system load because of AI-company crawlers.

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            • bebef@mastodon.socialB bebef@mastodon.social

              @jeff Moving to a different hoster is ... too simple? 🤔 Or why am I not reading "some may move to a more economically priced hoster"?

              lizbian@chaos.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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              #17

              @Bebef @jeff Hetzner isn't the only hoster which is increasing prices. I think Hetzner was just the first to communicate this decision. The reason behind it seems to be the RAM shortage induced by AI companies buying up all the supply.

              Moving to cheaper providers will come with less quality (more downtime, worse support, ...). And I'm also pretty sure that US-based companies aren't an option for most instances.

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              • jeff@mainely.socialJ jeff@mainely.social

                Hetzner, which many instances rely on, just announced a major across the board price hike. A 30% increase isn’t minor.

                For larger companies it’s a budget line. For small Mastodon instances, it’s the line between sustainable and underwater.

                When servers jump from €49.99 to €64.99 and storage rises too, admins feel it first. Many already subsidize costs.

                Some will downsize. Some may shut down.

                Decentralization still runs on invoices.

                Support your instances.

                #Mastoadmin #Hetzner

                mdione@en.osm.townM This user is from outside of this forum
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                wrote last edited by
                #18

                @jeff I wonder how much storage is media that nobody sees. Maybe it would be worth to add a delay in showing the media by only downloading whatever is actually seen. #Mastodon

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                • jeff@mainely.socialJ jeff@mainely.social

                  Hetzner, which many instances rely on, just announced a major across the board price hike. A 30% increase isn’t minor.

                  For larger companies it’s a budget line. For small Mastodon instances, it’s the line between sustainable and underwater.

                  When servers jump from €49.99 to €64.99 and storage rises too, admins feel it first. Many already subsidize costs.

                  Some will downsize. Some may shut down.

                  Decentralization still runs on invoices.

                  Support your instances.

                  #Mastoadmin #Hetzner

                  mullana@chaos.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  mullana@chaos.social
                  wrote last edited by
                  #19

                  @jeff
                  Thanks, AI. 😠

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                  • claudius@darmstadt.socialC claudius@darmstadt.social

                    @jeff THIS.

                    Also: if you're like "hehe, I'm not on Hetzner", I've got a bridge to sell you.

                    Hetzner went there first, but every hosting company is looking down increased hardware and energy costs on top of increased system load because of AI-company crawlers.

                    mainec@fromm.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                    mainec@fromm.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                    mainec@fromm.social
                    wrote last edited by
                    #20

                    @claudius @jeff same applies to the folks with hardware and hosting in their basement/ kitchen/ wherever

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                    • mainec@fromm.socialM mainec@fromm.social

                      @claudius @jeff same applies to the folks with hardware and hosting in their basement/ kitchen/ wherever

                      claudius@darmstadt.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                      wrote last edited by
                      #21

                      @mainec @jeff long-term: absolutely.

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                      • jeff@mainely.socialJ jeff@mainely.social

                        Hetzner, which many instances rely on, just announced a major across the board price hike. A 30% increase isn’t minor.

                        For larger companies it’s a budget line. For small Mastodon instances, it’s the line between sustainable and underwater.

                        When servers jump from €49.99 to €64.99 and storage rises too, admins feel it first. Many already subsidize costs.

                        Some will downsize. Some may shut down.

                        Decentralization still runs on invoices.

                        Support your instances.

                        #Mastoadmin #Hetzner

                        zompetto@mastodon.artZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        zompetto@mastodon.art
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                        #22

                        @jeff another way this shitty AI push is making the web worse for everyone

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                        • zompetto@mastodon.artZ zompetto@mastodon.art

                          @jeff another way this shitty AI push is making the web worse for everyone

                          fritange@maly.ioF This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #23

                          @zompetto

                          This is really going crazy. It became almost impossible to order a laptop with only 2 memory strips of 16GB to the main manufacturers (Dell, Lenovo, HPe)...

                          @jeff

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                          • jeff@mainely.socialJ jeff@mainely.social

                            Hetzner, which many instances rely on, just announced a major across the board price hike. A 30% increase isn’t minor.

                            For larger companies it’s a budget line. For small Mastodon instances, it’s the line between sustainable and underwater.

                            When servers jump from €49.99 to €64.99 and storage rises too, admins feel it first. Many already subsidize costs.

                            Some will downsize. Some may shut down.

                            Decentralization still runs on invoices.

                            Support your instances.

                            #Mastoadmin #Hetzner

                            woof@fedi.aria.dogW This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #24

                            @jeff anyone who was somehow still hosting with them after their pulling the plug on fedi instances for false reports motivated by anti-lgbt hate had it coming

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                            • jeff@mainely.socialJ jeff@mainely.social

                              Hetzner, which many instances rely on, just announced a major across the board price hike. A 30% increase isn’t minor.

                              For larger companies it’s a budget line. For small Mastodon instances, it’s the line between sustainable and underwater.

                              When servers jump from €49.99 to €64.99 and storage rises too, admins feel it first. Many already subsidize costs.

                              Some will downsize. Some may shut down.

                              Decentralization still runs on invoices.

                              Support your instances.

                              #Mastoadmin #Hetzner

                              kate@is.beeping.petK This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #25
                              @jeff Why would only mastodon admins suffer from this? Hosts of other fedi software should experience similar issues. ​​
                              k4t3@comp.lain.laK 1 Reply Last reply
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                              • jeff@mainely.socialJ jeff@mainely.social

                                Hetzner, which many instances rely on, just announced a major across the board price hike. A 30% increase isn’t minor.

                                For larger companies it’s a budget line. For small Mastodon instances, it’s the line between sustainable and underwater.

                                When servers jump from €49.99 to €64.99 and storage rises too, admins feel it first. Many already subsidize costs.

                                Some will downsize. Some may shut down.

                                Decentralization still runs on invoices.

                                Support your instances.

                                #Mastoadmin #Hetzner

                                stairjoke@indieweb.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #26

                                @jeff do we know why they’re increasing prices? I suspect its the cost of serving all the AI requests and the cost increases for hardware, also due to AI.

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                                • jeff@mainely.socialJ jeff@mainely.social

                                  Hetzner, which many instances rely on, just announced a major across the board price hike. A 30% increase isn’t minor.

                                  For larger companies it’s a budget line. For small Mastodon instances, it’s the line between sustainable and underwater.

                                  When servers jump from €49.99 to €64.99 and storage rises too, admins feel it first. Many already subsidize costs.

                                  Some will downsize. Some may shut down.

                                  Decentralization still runs on invoices.

                                  Support your instances.

                                  #Mastoadmin #Hetzner

                                  katharta@quietzero.netK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #27

                                  @jeff F... I was just about to make the jump

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                                  • kate@is.beeping.petK kate@is.beeping.pet
                                    @jeff Why would only mastodon admins suffer from this? Hosts of other fedi software should experience similar issues. ​​
                                    k4t3@comp.lain.laK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #28
                                    @kate @jeff because mastodon is bloat
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                                    • lizbian@chaos.socialL lizbian@chaos.social

                                      @Bebef @jeff Hetzner isn't the only hoster which is increasing prices. I think Hetzner was just the first to communicate this decision. The reason behind it seems to be the RAM shortage induced by AI companies buying up all the supply.

                                      Moving to cheaper providers will come with less quality (more downtime, worse support, ...). And I'm also pretty sure that US-based companies aren't an option for most instances.

                                      bebef@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      bebef@mastodon.social
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #29

                                      @lizbian @jeff So what you're saying is that Hetzner is the cheapest provider with acceptable quality there is?

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                                      • jeff@mainely.socialJ jeff@mainely.social

                                        Hetzner, which many instances rely on, just announced a major across the board price hike. A 30% increase isn’t minor.

                                        For larger companies it’s a budget line. For small Mastodon instances, it’s the line between sustainable and underwater.

                                        When servers jump from €49.99 to €64.99 and storage rises too, admins feel it first. Many already subsidize costs.

                                        Some will downsize. Some may shut down.

                                        Decentralization still runs on invoices.

                                        Support your instances.

                                        #Mastoadmin #Hetzner

                                        caffetino@social.pikaia.orgC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        caffetino@social.pikaia.org
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #30

                                        @jeff we're all going to have to relearn thrifty programming. The time of abundance is over. At least for now.

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                                        • bebef@mastodon.socialB bebef@mastodon.social

                                          @lizbian @jeff So what you're saying is that Hetzner is the cheapest provider with acceptable quality there is?

                                          lizbian@chaos.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #31

                                          @Bebef @jeff "Acceptable quality" highly depends on use case. Also, there are other factors that limit possible providers, like datacenter location, jurisdiction(s), GDPR compliance level, available features, type of hosting, and the like.

                                          So yes, for some organisations, Hetzner is the cheapest option with acceptable quality that they can use.

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