Black woman: Black people don’t feel comfortable on Mastodon and Bluesky!!
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@saltywizard I'll take "Things That Aren't @skinnylatte 's Problem" for $500, Alex.
@dave @saltywizard @skinnylatte
what is our problem is nuking bigot accounts
not as some "how to entice black people to the fediverse" weird moustache twirling scheme
just as a function of who we are
if anyone comes or does not come after that has no relevance
just: fuck bigots. just because. beginning and ending of discussion
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Black woman: Black people don’t feel comfortable on Mastodon and Bluesky!!
Everyone else: here’s why you’re wrong and I know better than you!
Honestly some of y’all sound like the ‘I have one minority friend and they say it’s okay for me to say X’ type of people
whitesplaining
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how can we make mastodon (and the greater fediverse) more welcoming for people of color?
@saltywizard Some of my own thoughts, if you're interested!
Stefan Bohacek (@stefan@stefanbohacek.online)
"soooo what else do we need to do to make this Blacktwitter, because I think we should do more of that" https://fire.asta.lgbt/notes/ackrs97gn2fb02hz I'd say: follow Black folks who are active in the fediverse, lift up their voices, report any harassment you see in their replies. Make the people who are already here feel welcome, they'll do the rest. #BlackFedi #BlackFediverse #BlackMastodon #blacksky #fediverse
Stefan's Personal Mastodon Server (stefanbohacek.online)
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@dave @saltywizard @skinnylatte
what is our problem is nuking bigot accounts
not as some "how to entice black people to the fediverse" weird moustache twirling scheme
just as a function of who we are
if anyone comes or does not come after that has no relevance
just: fuck bigots. just because. beginning and ending of discussion
@benroyce @dave @saltywizard @skinnylatte Nuking not only bigot accounts but also the instances where sucky moderation allows bigots to take residence.
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Black woman: Black people don’t feel comfortable on Mastodon and Bluesky!!
Everyone else: here’s why you’re wrong and I know better than you!
Honestly some of y’all sound like the ‘I have one minority friend and they say it’s okay for me to say X’ type of people
@skinnylatte My question to anyone taking that stance: why didn’t Blacksky happen here, then?
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@benroyce @dave @saltywizard @skinnylatte Nuking not only bigot accounts but also the instances where sucky moderation allows bigots to take residence.
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Black woman: Black people don’t feel comfortable on Mastodon and Bluesky!!
Everyone else: here’s why you’re wrong and I know better than you!
Honestly some of y’all sound like the ‘I have one minority friend and they say it’s okay for me to say X’ type of people
@skinnylatte What can I do to help correct this?
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@skinnylatte there's a special flavor on Mastodon: "if you call me racist, you're transphobic".
@dave @skinnylatte ok that made me lol. Because, truth.
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how can we make mastodon (and the greater fediverse) more welcoming for people of color?
@saltywizard @skinnylatte
Better moderation.and
Fix "followers only" replies, so they go to the followers of the person who started the thread. As it is, each reply set to followers only is sent out to the followers of the person who made the reply. Bigots use this to post hate that only the victim and other bigots see, so they can all join in the attack
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Black woman: Black people don’t feel comfortable on Mastodon and Bluesky!!
Everyone else: here’s why you’re wrong and I know better than you!
Honestly some of y’all sound like the ‘I have one minority friend and they say it’s okay for me to say X’ type of people
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@skinnylatte black people aren't safe anywhere, especially in spaces controlled by white people.
@macacator @skinnylatte I know it’s not much but black people are safe, cherished and valued with me.
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Black woman: Black people don’t feel comfortable on Mastodon and Bluesky!!
Everyone else: here’s why you’re wrong and I know better than you!
Honestly some of y’all sound like the ‘I have one minority friend and they say it’s okay for me to say X’ type of people
@skinnylatte That conversation was excruciating
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Black woman: Black people don’t feel comfortable on Mastodon and Bluesky!!
Everyone else: here’s why you’re wrong and I know better than you!
Honestly some of y’all sound like the ‘I have one minority friend and they say it’s okay for me to say X’ type of people
Fellow white people:
If you've ever said "Believe women" but then posted this kind of response to a Black woman, SHAME, SHAME on you.
@skinnylatteAnd if you don't think you should believe women, fuck off.
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@skinnylatte this is an important point. Thank you. I’ve seen that as well.
Bluesky is very wealthy white centric. Now with a private equity CEO & AI I am thinking it will become more exclusive
Mastodon is very white European centric. It still has the potential to be more inclusive with time.
@oldredsubby @skinnylatte It is important to recognize that the lived experiences of Black Americans, are distinct from the 1.6 billion people globally with whom they share partial ancestry. Conflating isolated viewpoints as the collective position of all, erroneously constructs a monolithic narrative.
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Black woman: Black people don’t feel comfortable on Mastodon and Bluesky!!
Everyone else: here’s why you’re wrong and I know better than you!
Honestly some of y’all sound like the ‘I have one minority friend and they say it’s okay for me to say X’ type of people
@skinnylatte my fellow white guys could really stand to learn to listen to people who aren’t themselves every once in a while.
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@skinnylatte My question to anyone taking that stance: why didn’t Blacksky happen here, then?
@maxleibman @skinnylatte My guess, admittedly having no involvement with Blacksky and likely missing some technical details, is something to do with how server federating works with ActivityPub vs ATProto
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Black woman: Black people don’t feel comfortable on Mastodon and Bluesky!!
Everyone else: here’s why you’re wrong and I know better than you!
Honestly some of y’all sound like the ‘I have one minority friend and they say it’s okay for me to say X’ type of people
some people here are like 'i'm color blind i don't know what color anyone is'
well maybe you are the problem
'color blindness' is wilful racism
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@skinnylatte My question to anyone taking that stance: why didn’t Blacksky happen here, then?
@maxleibman @skinnylatte it did. It was called playvicious. But they got harassed out of here, too.
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some people here are like 'i'm color blind i don't know what color anyone is'
well maybe you are the problem
'color blindness' is wilful racism
@skinnylatte See color and appreciate color. That's the way to go.
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how can we make mastodon (and the greater fediverse) more welcoming for people of color?
@saltywizard @skinnylatte For one, you give people here the tools they need to moderate their own conversations. Bluesky has been doing a lot on this front, and I think that's a big reason why, even though bsky isn't perfect for Black folks either, it's definitely doing a lot better.
You also make this place generally more accessible. It might not feel like it to the average techie, but some people feel you practically need a CS degree to be on here with how complicated the experience can be.
