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Black woman: Black people don’t feel comfortable on Mastodon and Bluesky!!

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  • saltywizard@beige.partyS saltywizard@beige.party

    @skinnylatte

    how can we make mastodon (and the greater fediverse) more welcoming for people of color?

    dave@alvarado.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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    #10

    @saltywizard I'll take "Things That Aren't @skinnylatte 's Problem" for $500, Alex.

    saltywizard@beige.partyS benroyce@mastodon.socialB 2 Replies Last reply
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    • crankylinuxuser@infosec.exchangeC crankylinuxuser@infosec.exchange

      @skinnylatte

      Do they feel safe anywhere?

      And how does feeling safe compare to being safe?

      dave@alvarado.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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      #11

      @crankylinuxuser Blacksky.

      @skinnylatte

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      • dave@alvarado.socialD dave@alvarado.social

        @saltywizard I'll take "Things That Aren't @skinnylatte 's Problem" for $500, Alex.

        saltywizard@beige.partyS This user is from outside of this forum
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        @dave @skinnylatte

        fair enough. smh.

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        • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

          Black woman: Black people don’t feel comfortable on Mastodon and Bluesky!!

          Everyone else: here’s why you’re wrong and I know better than you!

          Honestly some of y’all sound like the ‘I have one minority friend and they say it’s okay for me to say X’ type of people

          macacator@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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          @skinnylatte black people aren't safe anywhere, especially in spaces controlled by white people.

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          • dave@alvarado.socialD dave@alvarado.social

            @saltywizard I'll take "Things That Aren't @skinnylatte 's Problem" for $500, Alex.

            benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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            #14

            @dave @saltywizard @skinnylatte

            what is our problem is nuking bigot accounts

            not as some "how to entice black people to the fediverse" weird moustache twirling scheme

            just as a function of who we are

            if anyone comes or does not come after that has no relevance

            just: fuck bigots. just because. beginning and ending of discussion

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            • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

              Black woman: Black people don’t feel comfortable on Mastodon and Bluesky!!

              Everyone else: here’s why you’re wrong and I know better than you!

              Honestly some of y’all sound like the ‘I have one minority friend and they say it’s okay for me to say X’ type of people

              benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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              @skinnylatte

              whitesplaining

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              • saltywizard@beige.partyS saltywizard@beige.party

                @skinnylatte

                how can we make mastodon (and the greater fediverse) more welcoming for people of color?

                stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS This user is from outside of this forum
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                #16

                @saltywizard Some of my own thoughts, if you're interested!

                Stefan Bohacek (@stefan@stefanbohacek.online)

                "soooo what else do we need to do to make this Blacktwitter, because I think we should do more of that" https://fire.asta.lgbt/notes/ackrs97gn2fb02hz I'd say: follow Black folks who are active in the fediverse, lift up their voices, report any harassment you see in their replies. Make the people who are already here feel welcome, they'll do the rest. #BlackFedi #BlackFediverse #BlackMastodon #blacksky #fediverse

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                Stefan's Personal Mastodon Server (stefanbohacek.online)

                @skinnylatte

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @dave @saltywizard @skinnylatte

                  what is our problem is nuking bigot accounts

                  not as some "how to entice black people to the fediverse" weird moustache twirling scheme

                  just as a function of who we are

                  if anyone comes or does not come after that has no relevance

                  just: fuck bigots. just because. beginning and ending of discussion

                  colesstreetpothole@weatherishappening.networkC This user is from outside of this forum
                  colesstreetpothole@weatherishappening.networkC This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @benroyce @dave @saltywizard @skinnylatte Nuking not only bigot accounts but also the instances where sucky moderation allows bigots to take residence.

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                  • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

                    Black woman: Black people don’t feel comfortable on Mastodon and Bluesky!!

                    Everyone else: here’s why you’re wrong and I know better than you!

                    Honestly some of y’all sound like the ‘I have one minority friend and they say it’s okay for me to say X’ type of people

                    maxleibman@beige.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @skinnylatte My question to anyone taking that stance: why didn’t Blacksky happen here, then?

                    disorderlyf@todon.euD zkat@fedi.zkat.techZ 2 Replies Last reply
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                    • colesstreetpothole@weatherishappening.networkC colesstreetpothole@weatherishappening.network

                      @benroyce @dave @saltywizard @skinnylatte Nuking not only bigot accounts but also the instances where sucky moderation allows bigots to take residence.

                      benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #19

                      @ColesStreetPothole @dave @saltywizard @skinnylatte ✅

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                      • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

                        Black woman: Black people don’t feel comfortable on Mastodon and Bluesky!!

                        Everyone else: here’s why you’re wrong and I know better than you!

                        Honestly some of y’all sound like the ‘I have one minority friend and they say it’s okay for me to say X’ type of people

                        rrb@infosec.exchangeR This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @skinnylatte What can I do to help correct this?

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                        • dave@alvarado.socialD dave@alvarado.social

                          @skinnylatte there's a special flavor on Mastodon: "if you call me racist, you're transphobic".

                          🤡

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                          @dave @skinnylatte ok that made me lol. Because, truth.

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                          • saltywizard@beige.partyS saltywizard@beige.party

                            @skinnylatte

                            how can we make mastodon (and the greater fediverse) more welcoming for people of color?

                            leeloo@c.imL This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @saltywizard @skinnylatte
                            Better moderation.

                            and

                            Fix "followers only" replies, so they go to the followers of the person who started the thread. As it is, each reply set to followers only is sent out to the followers of the person who made the reply. Bigots use this to post hate that only the victim and other bigots see, so they can all join in the attack

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                            • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

                              Black woman: Black people don’t feel comfortable on Mastodon and Bluesky!!

                              Everyone else: here’s why you’re wrong and I know better than you!

                              Honestly some of y’all sound like the ‘I have one minority friend and they say it’s okay for me to say X’ type of people

                              aimeemaroux@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @skinnylatte

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                              • macacator@mastodon.socialM macacator@mastodon.social

                                @skinnylatte black people aren't safe anywhere, especially in spaces controlled by white people.

                                psoul@sfba.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @macacator @skinnylatte I know it’s not much but black people are safe, cherished and valued with me.

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                                • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

                                  Black woman: Black people don’t feel comfortable on Mastodon and Bluesky!!

                                  Everyone else: here’s why you’re wrong and I know better than you!

                                  Honestly some of y’all sound like the ‘I have one minority friend and they say it’s okay for me to say X’ type of people

                                  lemay@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @skinnylatte That conversation was excruciating

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                                  • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

                                    Black woman: Black people don’t feel comfortable on Mastodon and Bluesky!!

                                    Everyone else: here’s why you’re wrong and I know better than you!

                                    Honestly some of y’all sound like the ‘I have one minority friend and they say it’s okay for me to say X’ type of people

                                    ginevracat@toot.communityG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    Fellow white people:
                                    If you've ever said "Believe women" but then posted this kind of response to a Black woman, SHAME, SHAME on you.
                                    @skinnylatte

                                    And if you don't think you should believe women, fuck off.

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                                    • oldredsubby@sfba.socialO oldredsubby@sfba.social

                                      @skinnylatte this is an important point. Thank you. I’ve seen that as well.

                                      Bluesky is very wealthy white centric. Now with a private equity CEO & AI I am thinking it will become more exclusive

                                      Mastodon is very white European centric. It still has the potential to be more inclusive with time.

                                      bellissiamo@mstdn.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @oldredsubby @skinnylatte It is important to recognize that the lived experiences of Black Americans, are distinct from the 1.6 billion people globally with whom they share partial ancestry. Conflating isolated viewpoints as the collective position of all, erroneously constructs a monolithic narrative.

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                                      • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

                                        Black woman: Black people don’t feel comfortable on Mastodon and Bluesky!!

                                        Everyone else: here’s why you’re wrong and I know better than you!

                                        Honestly some of y’all sound like the ‘I have one minority friend and they say it’s okay for me to say X’ type of people

                                        winterknight1337@infosec.exchangeW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @skinnylatte my fellow white guys could really stand to learn to listen to people who aren’t themselves every once in a while.

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                                        • maxleibman@beige.partyM maxleibman@beige.party

                                          @skinnylatte My question to anyone taking that stance: why didn’t Blacksky happen here, then?

                                          disorderlyf@todon.euD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @maxleibman @skinnylatte My guess, admittedly having no involvement with Blacksky and likely missing some technical details, is something to do with how server federating works with ActivityPub vs ATProto

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