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  • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

    Black woman: Black people don’t feel comfortable on Mastodon and Bluesky!!

    Everyone else: here’s why you’re wrong and I know better than you!

    Honestly some of y’all sound like the ‘I have one minority friend and they say it’s okay for me to say X’ type of people

    colesstreetpothole@weatherishappening.networkC This user is from outside of this forum
    colesstreetpothole@weatherishappening.networkC This user is from outside of this forum
    colesstreetpothole@weatherishappening.network
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    #3

    @skinnylatte Alternate take: here's why you're right, and it totally sucks (and, among other things, the "followers only" reply choice should be eliminated).

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    • beep@follow.ethanmarcotte.comB beep@follow.ethanmarcotte.com

      @skinnylatte I not infrequently think of all the great people who got chased off this platform and get Big Mad, that behavior truly sucks

      stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS This user is from outside of this forum
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      #4

      @beep Same. I don't think I'll ever get over this.

      @skinnylatte

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      • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

        Black woman: Black people don’t feel comfortable on Mastodon and Bluesky!!

        Everyone else: here’s why you’re wrong and I know better than you!

        Honestly some of y’all sound like the ‘I have one minority friend and they say it’s okay for me to say X’ type of people

        oldredsubby@sfba.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
        oldredsubby@sfba.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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        #5

        @skinnylatte this is an important point. Thank you. I’ve seen that as well.

        Bluesky is very wealthy white centric. Now with a private equity CEO & AI I am thinking it will become more exclusive

        Mastodon is very white European centric. It still has the potential to be more inclusive with time.

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        • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

          Black woman: Black people don’t feel comfortable on Mastodon and Bluesky!!

          Everyone else: here’s why you’re wrong and I know better than you!

          Honestly some of y’all sound like the ‘I have one minority friend and they say it’s okay for me to say X’ type of people

          crankylinuxuser@infosec.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
          crankylinuxuser@infosec.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
          crankylinuxuser@infosec.exchange
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          @skinnylatte

          Do they feel safe anywhere?

          And how does feeling safe compare to being safe?

          dave@alvarado.socialD 1 Reply Last reply
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          • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

            Black woman: Black people don’t feel comfortable on Mastodon and Bluesky!!

            Everyone else: here’s why you’re wrong and I know better than you!

            Honestly some of y’all sound like the ‘I have one minority friend and they say it’s okay for me to say X’ type of people

            jabgoe2089@hub.netzgemeinde.euJ This user is from outside of this forum
            jabgoe2089@hub.netzgemeinde.euJ This user is from outside of this forum
            jabgoe2089@hub.netzgemeinde.eu
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            #7
            @Adrianna Tan
            Everyone else: here’s why you’re wrong and I know better than you!

            sounds bad. but the premise is still nonsensical. how do i know what skincolor the other people have?
            stevegis_ssg@mas.toS unchartedworlds@scicomm.xyzU 2 Replies Last reply
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            • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

              Black woman: Black people don’t feel comfortable on Mastodon and Bluesky!!

              Everyone else: here’s why you’re wrong and I know better than you!

              Honestly some of y’all sound like the ‘I have one minority friend and they say it’s okay for me to say X’ type of people

              saltywizard@beige.partyS This user is from outside of this forum
              saltywizard@beige.partyS This user is from outside of this forum
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              #8

              @skinnylatte

              how can we make mastodon (and the greater fediverse) more welcoming for people of color?

              dave@alvarado.socialD stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS leeloo@c.imL zkat@fedi.zkat.techZ 4 Replies Last reply
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              • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

                Black woman: Black people don’t feel comfortable on Mastodon and Bluesky!!

                Everyone else: here’s why you’re wrong and I know better than you!

                Honestly some of y’all sound like the ‘I have one minority friend and they say it’s okay for me to say X’ type of people

                dave@alvarado.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                dave@alvarado.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                dave@alvarado.social
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                #9

                @skinnylatte there's a special flavor on Mastodon: "if you call me racist, you're transphobic".

                🤡

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                • saltywizard@beige.partyS saltywizard@beige.party

                  @skinnylatte

                  how can we make mastodon (and the greater fediverse) more welcoming for people of color?

                  dave@alvarado.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                  dave@alvarado.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                  dave@alvarado.social
                  wrote last edited by
                  #10

                  @saltywizard I'll take "Things That Aren't @skinnylatte 's Problem" for $500, Alex.

                  saltywizard@beige.partyS benroyce@mastodon.socialB 2 Replies Last reply
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                  • crankylinuxuser@infosec.exchangeC crankylinuxuser@infosec.exchange

                    @skinnylatte

                    Do they feel safe anywhere?

                    And how does feeling safe compare to being safe?

                    dave@alvarado.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                    dave@alvarado.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
                    dave@alvarado.social
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                    #11

                    @crankylinuxuser Blacksky.

                    @skinnylatte

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                    • dave@alvarado.socialD dave@alvarado.social

                      @saltywizard I'll take "Things That Aren't @skinnylatte 's Problem" for $500, Alex.

                      saltywizard@beige.partyS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #12

                      @dave @skinnylatte

                      fair enough. smh.

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                      • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

                        Black woman: Black people don’t feel comfortable on Mastodon and Bluesky!!

                        Everyone else: here’s why you’re wrong and I know better than you!

                        Honestly some of y’all sound like the ‘I have one minority friend and they say it’s okay for me to say X’ type of people

                        macacator@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #13

                        @skinnylatte black people aren't safe anywhere, especially in spaces controlled by white people.

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                        • dave@alvarado.socialD dave@alvarado.social

                          @saltywizard I'll take "Things That Aren't @skinnylatte 's Problem" for $500, Alex.

                          benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #14

                          @dave @saltywizard @skinnylatte

                          what is our problem is nuking bigot accounts

                          not as some "how to entice black people to the fediverse" weird moustache twirling scheme

                          just as a function of who we are

                          if anyone comes or does not come after that has no relevance

                          just: fuck bigots. just because. beginning and ending of discussion

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                          • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

                            Black woman: Black people don’t feel comfortable on Mastodon and Bluesky!!

                            Everyone else: here’s why you’re wrong and I know better than you!

                            Honestly some of y’all sound like the ‘I have one minority friend and they say it’s okay for me to say X’ type of people

                            benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
                            benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #15

                            @skinnylatte

                            whitesplaining

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                            • saltywizard@beige.partyS saltywizard@beige.party

                              @skinnylatte

                              how can we make mastodon (and the greater fediverse) more welcoming for people of color?

                              stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS This user is from outside of this forum
                              stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @saltywizard Some of my own thoughts, if you're interested!

                              Stefan Bohacek (@stefan@stefanbohacek.online)

                              "soooo what else do we need to do to make this Blacktwitter, because I think we should do more of that" https://fire.asta.lgbt/notes/ackrs97gn2fb02hz I'd say: follow Black folks who are active in the fediverse, lift up their voices, report any harassment you see in their replies. Make the people who are already here feel welcome, they'll do the rest. #BlackFedi #BlackFediverse #BlackMastodon #blacksky #fediverse

                              favicon

                              Stefan's Personal Mastodon Server (stefanbohacek.online)

                              @skinnylatte

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                              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                @dave @saltywizard @skinnylatte

                                what is our problem is nuking bigot accounts

                                not as some "how to entice black people to the fediverse" weird moustache twirling scheme

                                just as a function of who we are

                                if anyone comes or does not come after that has no relevance

                                just: fuck bigots. just because. beginning and ending of discussion

                                colesstreetpothole@weatherishappening.networkC This user is from outside of this forum
                                colesstreetpothole@weatherishappening.networkC This user is from outside of this forum
                                colesstreetpothole@weatherishappening.network
                                wrote last edited by
                                #17

                                @benroyce @dave @saltywizard @skinnylatte Nuking not only bigot accounts but also the instances where sucky moderation allows bigots to take residence.

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                                • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

                                  Black woman: Black people don’t feel comfortable on Mastodon and Bluesky!!

                                  Everyone else: here’s why you’re wrong and I know better than you!

                                  Honestly some of y’all sound like the ‘I have one minority friend and they say it’s okay for me to say X’ type of people

                                  maxleibman@beige.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #18

                                  @skinnylatte My question to anyone taking that stance: why didn’t Blacksky happen here, then?

                                  disorderlyf@todon.euD zkat@fedi.zkat.techZ 2 Replies Last reply
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                                  • colesstreetpothole@weatherishappening.networkC colesstreetpothole@weatherishappening.network

                                    @benroyce @dave @saltywizard @skinnylatte Nuking not only bigot accounts but also the instances where sucky moderation allows bigots to take residence.

                                    benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #19

                                    @ColesStreetPothole @dave @saltywizard @skinnylatte ✅

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                                    • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

                                      Black woman: Black people don’t feel comfortable on Mastodon and Bluesky!!

                                      Everyone else: here’s why you’re wrong and I know better than you!

                                      Honestly some of y’all sound like the ‘I have one minority friend and they say it’s okay for me to say X’ type of people

                                      rrb@infosec.exchangeR This user is from outside of this forum
                                      rrb@infosec.exchangeR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #20

                                      @skinnylatte What can I do to help correct this?

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                                      • dave@alvarado.socialD dave@alvarado.social

                                        @skinnylatte there's a special flavor on Mastodon: "if you call me racist, you're transphobic".

                                        🤡

                                        venitamathias@masto.aiV This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #21

                                        @dave @skinnylatte ok that made me lol. Because, truth.

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                                        • saltywizard@beige.partyS saltywizard@beige.party

                                          @skinnylatte

                                          how can we make mastodon (and the greater fediverse) more welcoming for people of color?

                                          leeloo@c.imL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #22

                                          @saltywizard @skinnylatte
                                          Better moderation.

                                          and

                                          Fix "followers only" replies, so they go to the followers of the person who started the thread. As it is, each reply set to followers only is sent out to the followers of the person who made the reply. Bigots use this to post hate that only the victim and other bigots see, so they can all join in the attack

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