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Black woman: Black people don’t feel comfortable on Mastodon and Bluesky!!

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  • dave@alvarado.socialD dave@alvarado.social

    @saltywizard I'll take "Things That Aren't @skinnylatte 's Problem" for $500, Alex.

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    @dave @skinnylatte

    fair enough. smh.

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    • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

      Black woman: Black people don’t feel comfortable on Mastodon and Bluesky!!

      Everyone else: here’s why you’re wrong and I know better than you!

      Honestly some of y’all sound like the ‘I have one minority friend and they say it’s okay for me to say X’ type of people

      macacator@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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      @skinnylatte black people aren't safe anywhere, especially in spaces controlled by white people.

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      • dave@alvarado.socialD dave@alvarado.social

        @saltywizard I'll take "Things That Aren't @skinnylatte 's Problem" for $500, Alex.

        benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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        #14

        @dave @saltywizard @skinnylatte

        what is our problem is nuking bigot accounts

        not as some "how to entice black people to the fediverse" weird moustache twirling scheme

        just as a function of who we are

        if anyone comes or does not come after that has no relevance

        just: fuck bigots. just because. beginning and ending of discussion

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        • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

          Black woman: Black people don’t feel comfortable on Mastodon and Bluesky!!

          Everyone else: here’s why you’re wrong and I know better than you!

          Honestly some of y’all sound like the ‘I have one minority friend and they say it’s okay for me to say X’ type of people

          benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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          @skinnylatte

          whitesplaining

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          • saltywizard@beige.partyS saltywizard@beige.party

            @skinnylatte

            how can we make mastodon (and the greater fediverse) more welcoming for people of color?

            stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS This user is from outside of this forum
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            @saltywizard Some of my own thoughts, if you're interested!

            Stefan Bohacek (@stefan@stefanbohacek.online)

            "soooo what else do we need to do to make this Blacktwitter, because I think we should do more of that" https://fire.asta.lgbt/notes/ackrs97gn2fb02hz I'd say: follow Black folks who are active in the fediverse, lift up their voices, report any harassment you see in their replies. Make the people who are already here feel welcome, they'll do the rest. #BlackFedi #BlackFediverse #BlackMastodon #blacksky #fediverse

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            Stefan's Personal Mastodon Server (stefanbohacek.online)

            @skinnylatte

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            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

              @dave @saltywizard @skinnylatte

              what is our problem is nuking bigot accounts

              not as some "how to entice black people to the fediverse" weird moustache twirling scheme

              just as a function of who we are

              if anyone comes or does not come after that has no relevance

              just: fuck bigots. just because. beginning and ending of discussion

              colesstreetpothole@weatherishappening.networkC This user is from outside of this forum
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              #17

              @benroyce @dave @saltywizard @skinnylatte Nuking not only bigot accounts but also the instances where sucky moderation allows bigots to take residence.

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              • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

                Black woman: Black people don’t feel comfortable on Mastodon and Bluesky!!

                Everyone else: here’s why you’re wrong and I know better than you!

                Honestly some of y’all sound like the ‘I have one minority friend and they say it’s okay for me to say X’ type of people

                maxleibman@beige.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
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                @skinnylatte My question to anyone taking that stance: why didn’t Blacksky happen here, then?

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                • colesstreetpothole@weatherishappening.networkC colesstreetpothole@weatherishappening.network

                  @benroyce @dave @saltywizard @skinnylatte Nuking not only bigot accounts but also the instances where sucky moderation allows bigots to take residence.

                  benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #19

                  @ColesStreetPothole @dave @saltywizard @skinnylatte ✅

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                  • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

                    Black woman: Black people don’t feel comfortable on Mastodon and Bluesky!!

                    Everyone else: here’s why you’re wrong and I know better than you!

                    Honestly some of y’all sound like the ‘I have one minority friend and they say it’s okay for me to say X’ type of people

                    rrb@infosec.exchangeR This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #20

                    @skinnylatte What can I do to help correct this?

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                    • dave@alvarado.socialD dave@alvarado.social

                      @skinnylatte there's a special flavor on Mastodon: "if you call me racist, you're transphobic".

                      🤡

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                      @dave @skinnylatte ok that made me lol. Because, truth.

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                      • saltywizard@beige.partyS saltywizard@beige.party

                        @skinnylatte

                        how can we make mastodon (and the greater fediverse) more welcoming for people of color?

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                        #22

                        @saltywizard @skinnylatte
                        Better moderation.

                        and

                        Fix "followers only" replies, so they go to the followers of the person who started the thread. As it is, each reply set to followers only is sent out to the followers of the person who made the reply. Bigots use this to post hate that only the victim and other bigots see, so they can all join in the attack

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                        • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

                          Black woman: Black people don’t feel comfortable on Mastodon and Bluesky!!

                          Everyone else: here’s why you’re wrong and I know better than you!

                          Honestly some of y’all sound like the ‘I have one minority friend and they say it’s okay for me to say X’ type of people

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                          @skinnylatte

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                          • macacator@mastodon.socialM macacator@mastodon.social

                            @skinnylatte black people aren't safe anywhere, especially in spaces controlled by white people.

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                            @macacator @skinnylatte I know it’s not much but black people are safe, cherished and valued with me.

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                            • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

                              Black woman: Black people don’t feel comfortable on Mastodon and Bluesky!!

                              Everyone else: here’s why you’re wrong and I know better than you!

                              Honestly some of y’all sound like the ‘I have one minority friend and they say it’s okay for me to say X’ type of people

                              lemay@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @skinnylatte That conversation was excruciating

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                              • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

                                Black woman: Black people don’t feel comfortable on Mastodon and Bluesky!!

                                Everyone else: here’s why you’re wrong and I know better than you!

                                Honestly some of y’all sound like the ‘I have one minority friend and they say it’s okay for me to say X’ type of people

                                ginevracat@toot.communityG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                Fellow white people:
                                If you've ever said "Believe women" but then posted this kind of response to a Black woman, SHAME, SHAME on you.
                                @skinnylatte

                                And if you don't think you should believe women, fuck off.

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                                • oldredsubby@sfba.socialO oldredsubby@sfba.social

                                  @skinnylatte this is an important point. Thank you. I’ve seen that as well.

                                  Bluesky is very wealthy white centric. Now with a private equity CEO & AI I am thinking it will become more exclusive

                                  Mastodon is very white European centric. It still has the potential to be more inclusive with time.

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                                  @oldredsubby @skinnylatte It is important to recognize that the lived experiences of Black Americans, are distinct from the 1.6 billion people globally with whom they share partial ancestry. Conflating isolated viewpoints as the collective position of all, erroneously constructs a monolithic narrative.

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                                  • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

                                    Black woman: Black people don’t feel comfortable on Mastodon and Bluesky!!

                                    Everyone else: here’s why you’re wrong and I know better than you!

                                    Honestly some of y’all sound like the ‘I have one minority friend and they say it’s okay for me to say X’ type of people

                                    winterknight1337@infosec.exchangeW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @skinnylatte my fellow white guys could really stand to learn to listen to people who aren’t themselves every once in a while.

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                                    • maxleibman@beige.partyM maxleibman@beige.party

                                      @skinnylatte My question to anyone taking that stance: why didn’t Blacksky happen here, then?

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                                      @maxleibman @skinnylatte My guess, admittedly having no involvement with Blacksky and likely missing some technical details, is something to do with how server federating works with ActivityPub vs ATProto

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                                      • skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS skinnylatte@hachyderm.io

                                        Black woman: Black people don’t feel comfortable on Mastodon and Bluesky!!

                                        Everyone else: here’s why you’re wrong and I know better than you!

                                        Honestly some of y’all sound like the ‘I have one minority friend and they say it’s okay for me to say X’ type of people

                                        skinnylatte@hachyderm.ioS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #30

                                        some people here are like 'i'm color blind i don't know what color anyone is'

                                        well maybe you are the problem

                                        'color blindness' is wilful racism

                                        linuxandyarn@hachyderm.ioL sillycoelophysis@hachyderm.ioS anders_von_hadern@meerjungfrauengrotte.deA robertsmelser@toot.communityR jrose@social.belkadan.comJ 6 Replies Last reply
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                                        • maxleibman@beige.partyM maxleibman@beige.party

                                          @skinnylatte My question to anyone taking that stance: why didn’t Blacksky happen here, then?

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                                          @maxleibman @skinnylatte it did. It was called playvicious. But they got harassed out of here, too.

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