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  • esi@merveilles.townE esi@merveilles.town

    @_elena You might want to check out @rysiek and his blog at https://rys.io/en/index.html

    rysiek@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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    @esi @_elena henlo 👋

    I also write critically about tech, including "AI", for Polish media, specifically OKO.press:
    https://oko.press/autor/michal-rysiek-wozniak

    Some relevant examples:
    https://oko.press/sztuczna-inteligencja-prace-nam-zabiera-czy-to-tylko-bajera
    https://oko.press/chinski-deepseek-upuscil-powietrza-z-amerykanskiej-banki-ai-co-teraz
    https://oko.press/ai-nie-rozwiaze-kryzysu-klimatycznego

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    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

      @kawunngg YES of course!!! I LOVE his work ❤️

      @davidrevoy

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      #63

      @_elena @kawunngg Thank you!

      The sentence that inspired most of my humble resistance, was the one I read by the author of Nepenthes:

      “I’m just fed up, and you know what? Let’s fight back, even if it’s not successful. Be indigestible. Grow spikes.”

      (src: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/01/ai-haters-build-tarpits-to-trap-and-trick-ai-scrapers-that-ignore-robots-txt/ )

      mkj@social.mkj.earthM 707kat@mastodon.art7 _elena@mastodon.social_ 3 Replies Last reply
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      • lapcatsoftware@mastodon.socialL lapcatsoftware@mastodon.social

        @glamcode @_elena Don’t read me! I don’t even pretend to be an expert. I just rant sometimes. 😉

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        #64

        @lapcatsoftware @_elena Ranting counts as „publicly resisting“ 😝

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        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

          Dear Fedi friends,

          I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

          Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

          Do you have any recommendations?

          So far, at the top of my list I have:

          @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

          plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

          Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

          hikingdude@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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          #65

          @_elena
          That's difficult.
          Aislop and hype are one side, there are good uses for it as well. So, just blaming LLMs feels like blaming a knife for murder.

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          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

            Dear Fedi friends,

            I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

            Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

            Do you have any recommendations?

            So far, at the top of my list I have:

            @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

            plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

            Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

            dataknightmare@mastodon.xyzD This user is from outside of this forum
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            #66

            @_elena
            Outside of academia, yours truly was likely one of the first ones.

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            • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

              @_elena @kawunngg Thank you!

              The sentence that inspired most of my humble resistance, was the one I read by the author of Nepenthes:

              “I’m just fed up, and you know what? Let’s fight back, even if it’s not successful. Be indigestible. Grow spikes.”

              (src: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/01/ai-haters-build-tarpits-to-trap-and-trick-ai-scrapers-that-ignore-robots-txt/ )

              mkj@social.mkj.earthM This user is from outside of this forum
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              @davidrevoy Let's all make something imperfect, as an act of resistance. 🦜

              🙂

              @_elena @kawunngg

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              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                Dear Fedi friends,

                I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                Do you have any recommendations?

                So far, at the top of my list I have:

                @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                dataknightmare@mastodon.xyzD This user is from outside of this forum
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                dataknightmare@mastodon.xyz
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                #68

                @_elena also consider David Gerard @davidgerard (his wonderful Pivot to AI podcast is a gem)

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                • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                  @_elena @kawunngg Thank you!

                  The sentence that inspired most of my humble resistance, was the one I read by the author of Nepenthes:

                  “I’m just fed up, and you know what? Let’s fight back, even if it’s not successful. Be indigestible. Grow spikes.”

                  (src: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/01/ai-haters-build-tarpits-to-trap-and-trick-ai-scrapers-that-ignore-robots-txt/ )

                  707kat@mastodon.art7 This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #69

                  @davidrevoy Been a fan since I first saw your beautiful illustrations on @Framasoft years back and your comic contributions and words in the fight against Loud Literal Machines TM has made me smile so much.

                  Thank you, David!

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                  • ckl@ioc.exchangeC ckl@ioc.exchange

                    @_elena @jwildeboer @jan
                    I had the very same idea for such a story as well, although apparently vi is out of scope now
                    https://ioc.exchange/@CKL/116161896679343123

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                    #70

                    @CKL #EVi to the rescue! https://mastodon.social/@mrmasterkeyboard/116206795065369412

                    @_elena @jwildeboer @jan

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                    • romuald@piaille.frR romuald@piaille.fr

                      @_elena Pas immédiatement l’IA, mais sur la matérialité du numérique et des centres de données il y a @lenuageetaitsousnospieds et @tunubesecamirio . @Aepasek a publié une très bonne brochure sur comment résister aux datacenters, et sur la géopolitique du numérique je ne peux que conseiller le livre de @opheliecoelho ! @dataforgood fait du bon boulot également 👍

                      aepasek@scholar.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                      wrote last edited by
                      #71

                      @romuald @_elena @lenuageetaitsousnospieds @tunubesecamirio @opheliecoelho @dataforgood

                      merci!

                      Si un veux le lire: https://emmlab.info/Resources_page/Lutter%20contre%20les%20data%20centers.pdf

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                      • aepasek@scholar.socialA aepasek@scholar.social

                        @romuald @_elena @lenuageetaitsousnospieds @tunubesecamirio @opheliecoelho @dataforgood

                        merci!

                        Si un veux le lire: https://emmlab.info/Resources_page/Lutter%20contre%20les%20data%20centers.pdf

                        _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @Aepasek merci Anne !

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                        • dataknightmare@mastodon.xyzD dataknightmare@mastodon.xyz

                          @_elena also consider David Gerard @davidgerard (his wonderful Pivot to AI podcast is a gem)

                          _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @DataKnightmare thanks! putting you both on my list 🙏

                          P.S.: your SUPERB podcast is really my favorite these days... I wish everyone spoke Italian so they could enjoy it 🥲

                          @davidgerard

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                          • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                            @_elena @kawunngg Thank you!

                            The sentence that inspired most of my humble resistance, was the one I read by the author of Nepenthes:

                            “I’m just fed up, and you know what? Let’s fight back, even if it’s not successful. Be indigestible. Grow spikes.”

                            (src: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/01/ai-haters-build-tarpits-to-trap-and-trick-ai-scrapers-that-ignore-robots-txt/ )

                            _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #74

                            @davidrevoy awww I LOVE this quote. Thanks for sharing David!!! And taking this opportunity to thank you for your extraordinary work

                            @kawunngg

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                            • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

                              @esi @_elena henlo 👋

                              I also write critically about tech, including "AI", for Polish media, specifically OKO.press:
                              https://oko.press/autor/michal-rysiek-wozniak

                              Some relevant examples:
                              https://oko.press/sztuczna-inteligencja-prace-nam-zabiera-czy-to-tylko-bajera
                              https://oko.press/chinski-deepseek-upuscil-powietrza-z-amerykanskiej-banki-ai-co-teraz
                              https://oko.press/ai-nie-rozwiaze-kryzysu-klimatycznego

                              _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @rysiek of course I should have already thought of you. Adding you to the list! ❤️

                              @esi

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                              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                Dear Fedi friends,

                                I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                                Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                                Do you have any recommendations?

                                So far, at the top of my list I have:

                                @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                                plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                                Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                                drewtowler@mas.toD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante I'm a cloud app developer and I post from a fairly rabid anti-AI viewpoint sometimes - though whether that makes me recommendable I have no idea.

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                                • anildash@me.dmA anildash@me.dm

                                  @Standard_Phil @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante I think they’re all real researchers, I’m just a commentator here.

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                                  @anildash you 1000% belong to my list Anil ! And thanks @Standard_Phil for the suggestion

                                  FYI Anil if you don't know @jaredwhite he has a superb podcast titled Vibe Coded ("about the perils & pitfalls of creative intellectual automation; and why the future of good Internet vibes is for the humans, by the humans") : https://jaredwhite.com/projects/

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                                  • hikingdude@mastodon.socialH hikingdude@mastodon.social

                                    @_elena
                                    That's difficult.
                                    Aislop and hype are one side, there are good uses for it as well. So, just blaming LLMs feels like blaming a knife for murder.

                                    justin@social.younger.wtfJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #78

                                    @hikingdude @_elena smoking a cigarette feels good but it's still bad and we should talk about it being bad all the time and never say good things about it

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