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  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

    Dear Fedi friends,

    I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

    Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

    Do you have any recommendations?

    So far, at the top of my list I have:

    @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

    plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

    Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

    esi@merveilles.townE This user is from outside of this forum
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    esi@merveilles.town
    wrote last edited by
    #54

    @_elena You might want to check out @rysiek and his blog at https://rys.io/en/index.html

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    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

      Dear Fedi friends,

      I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

      Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

      Do you have any recommendations?

      So far, at the top of my list I have:

      @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

      plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

      Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

      eivind@mastodon.fjerland.noE This user is from outside of this forum
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      eivind@mastodon.fjerland.no
      wrote last edited by
      #55

      @_elena I certainly don't expect to be on such a list, but I sympahtise, and I am of course strongly opposed to LLMs. I think you got good suggestions already, so I'll just chime in to say I agree.

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      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

        Dear Fedi friends,

        I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

        Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

        Do you have any recommendations?

        So far, at the top of my list I have:

        @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

        plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

        Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

        onepict@chaos.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote last edited by
        #56

        @_elena We also have projects that are explicitly not accepting AI like @gentoo .

        We also have folk like @xgranade who is working on a fork of calibre. Which I am very grateful for.

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        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

          Dear Fedi friends,

          I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

          Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

          Do you have any recommendations?

          So far, at the top of my list I have:

          @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

          plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

          Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

          fasterandworse@hci.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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          wrote last edited by
          #57

          @_elena @zzt @davidgerard @froztbyte @kimcrawley / @crowgirl

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          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

            Dear Fedi friends,

            I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

            Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

            Do you have any recommendations?

            So far, at the top of my list I have:

            @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

            plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

            Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

            glamcode@openbiblio.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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            glamcode@openbiblio.social
            wrote last edited by
            #58

            @_elena I have a “Critical AI reading list” on Mastodon that contains among others and among the ones you listed:

            - @baldur
            - @RainerMuehlhoff
            - @Weizenbaum_Institut
            - @olivia
            - @quinta
            - @lapcatsoftware
            - @dylan

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            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

              Dear Fedi friends,

              I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

              Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

              Do you have any recommendations?

              So far, at the top of my list I have:

              @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

              plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

              Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

              brib@disabled.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
              brib@disabled.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
              brib@disabled.social
              wrote last edited by
              #59

              @_elena I'm noisy enough about it to release a slopfree index and blog about it a bit, although I try (only semi-successfully) to balance out my feed with stuff that isn't AI

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              • glamcode@openbiblio.socialG glamcode@openbiblio.social

                @_elena I have a “Critical AI reading list” on Mastodon that contains among others and among the ones you listed:

                - @baldur
                - @RainerMuehlhoff
                - @Weizenbaum_Institut
                - @olivia
                - @quinta
                - @lapcatsoftware
                - @dylan

                lapcatsoftware@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                wrote last edited by
                #60

                @glamcode @_elena Don’t read me! I don’t even pretend to be an expert. I just rant sometimes. 😉

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                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                  @davidgerard THANK YOU!!!

                  kimcrawley@zeroes.caK This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #61

                  @_elena @davidgerard ❤️

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                  • esi@merveilles.townE esi@merveilles.town

                    @_elena You might want to check out @rysiek and his blog at https://rys.io/en/index.html

                    rysiek@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #62

                    @esi @_elena henlo 👋

                    I also write critically about tech, including "AI", for Polish media, specifically OKO.press:
                    https://oko.press/autor/michal-rysiek-wozniak

                    Some relevant examples:
                    https://oko.press/sztuczna-inteligencja-prace-nam-zabiera-czy-to-tylko-bajera
                    https://oko.press/chinski-deepseek-upuscil-powietrza-z-amerykanskiej-banki-ai-co-teraz
                    https://oko.press/ai-nie-rozwiaze-kryzysu-klimatycznego

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                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                      @kawunngg YES of course!!! I LOVE his work ❤️

                      @davidrevoy

                      davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
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                      wrote last edited by
                      #63

                      @_elena @kawunngg Thank you!

                      The sentence that inspired most of my humble resistance, was the one I read by the author of Nepenthes:

                      “I’m just fed up, and you know what? Let’s fight back, even if it’s not successful. Be indigestible. Grow spikes.”

                      (src: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/01/ai-haters-build-tarpits-to-trap-and-trick-ai-scrapers-that-ignore-robots-txt/ )

                      mkj@social.mkj.earthM 707kat@mastodon.art7 _elena@mastodon.social_ 3 Replies Last reply
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                      • lapcatsoftware@mastodon.socialL lapcatsoftware@mastodon.social

                        @glamcode @_elena Don’t read me! I don’t even pretend to be an expert. I just rant sometimes. 😉

                        glamcode@openbiblio.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                        wrote last edited by
                        #64

                        @lapcatsoftware @_elena Ranting counts as „publicly resisting“ 😝

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                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                          Dear Fedi friends,

                          I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                          Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                          Do you have any recommendations?

                          So far, at the top of my list I have:

                          @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                          plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                          Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                          hikingdude@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                          hikingdude@mastodon.social
                          wrote last edited by
                          #65

                          @_elena
                          That's difficult.
                          Aislop and hype are one side, there are good uses for it as well. So, just blaming LLMs feels like blaming a knife for murder.

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                          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                            Dear Fedi friends,

                            I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                            Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                            Do you have any recommendations?

                            So far, at the top of my list I have:

                            @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                            plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                            Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                            dataknightmare@mastodon.xyzD This user is from outside of this forum
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                            dataknightmare@mastodon.xyz
                            wrote last edited by
                            #66

                            @_elena
                            Outside of academia, yours truly was likely one of the first ones.

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                            • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                              @_elena @kawunngg Thank you!

                              The sentence that inspired most of my humble resistance, was the one I read by the author of Nepenthes:

                              “I’m just fed up, and you know what? Let’s fight back, even if it’s not successful. Be indigestible. Grow spikes.”

                              (src: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/01/ai-haters-build-tarpits-to-trap-and-trick-ai-scrapers-that-ignore-robots-txt/ )

                              mkj@social.mkj.earthM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #67

                              @davidrevoy Let's all make something imperfect, as an act of resistance. 🦜

                              🙂

                              @_elena @kawunngg

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                              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                Dear Fedi friends,

                                I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                                Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                                Do you have any recommendations?

                                So far, at the top of my list I have:

                                @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                                plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                                Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                                dataknightmare@mastodon.xyzD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                dataknightmare@mastodon.xyz
                                wrote last edited by
                                #68

                                @_elena also consider David Gerard @davidgerard (his wonderful Pivot to AI podcast is a gem)

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                                • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                  @_elena @kawunngg Thank you!

                                  The sentence that inspired most of my humble resistance, was the one I read by the author of Nepenthes:

                                  “I’m just fed up, and you know what? Let’s fight back, even if it’s not successful. Be indigestible. Grow spikes.”

                                  (src: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/01/ai-haters-build-tarpits-to-trap-and-trick-ai-scrapers-that-ignore-robots-txt/ )

                                  707kat@mastodon.art7 This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #69

                                  @davidrevoy Been a fan since I first saw your beautiful illustrations on @Framasoft years back and your comic contributions and words in the fight against Loud Literal Machines TM has made me smile so much.

                                  Thank you, David!

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                                  • ckl@ioc.exchangeC ckl@ioc.exchange

                                    @_elena @jwildeboer @jan
                                    I had the very same idea for such a story as well, although apparently vi is out of scope now
                                    https://ioc.exchange/@CKL/116161896679343123

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                                    #70

                                    @CKL #EVi to the rescue! https://mastodon.social/@mrmasterkeyboard/116206795065369412

                                    @_elena @jwildeboer @jan

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                                    • romuald@piaille.frR romuald@piaille.fr

                                      @_elena Pas immédiatement l’IA, mais sur la matérialité du numérique et des centres de données il y a @lenuageetaitsousnospieds et @tunubesecamirio . @Aepasek a publié une très bonne brochure sur comment résister aux datacenters, et sur la géopolitique du numérique je ne peux que conseiller le livre de @opheliecoelho ! @dataforgood fait du bon boulot également 👍

                                      aepasek@scholar.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #71

                                      @romuald @_elena @lenuageetaitsousnospieds @tunubesecamirio @opheliecoelho @dataforgood

                                      merci!

                                      Si un veux le lire: https://emmlab.info/Resources_page/Lutter%20contre%20les%20data%20centers.pdf

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                                      • aepasek@scholar.socialA aepasek@scholar.social

                                        @romuald @_elena @lenuageetaitsousnospieds @tunubesecamirio @opheliecoelho @dataforgood

                                        merci!

                                        Si un veux le lire: https://emmlab.info/Resources_page/Lutter%20contre%20les%20data%20centers.pdf

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                                        #72

                                        @Aepasek merci Anne !

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                                        • dataknightmare@mastodon.xyzD dataknightmare@mastodon.xyz

                                          @_elena also consider David Gerard @davidgerard (his wonderful Pivot to AI podcast is a gem)

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                                          @DataKnightmare thanks! putting you both on my list 🙏

                                          P.S.: your SUPERB podcast is really my favorite these days... I wish everyone spoke Italian so they could enjoy it 🥲

                                          @davidgerard

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