When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."
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@phil @EndlessMason "guns don't kill people" hasn't been convincing for decades.
@neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org @EndlessMason@hachyderm.io
Guns, like any tool, need to be carefully managed by any human owning/ controlling them. LLMs can do a crapload of damage, but they can't be held accountable, just like a computer can't be held accountable for what sysadmins do. -
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To my knowledge, the fundamental forces of the universe, just like dead matter (including LLMs), don't have agency of their own.
Humans do.@phil @neurovagrant
I don't.I'm a stimulus-response machine. I'm governed by the laws of physics exclusively.
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@phil @neurovagrant
HahhahahahhahhahhahhhahhHhHahjahahhahahahhahahhahahhaHhHHHhz aside from escalating the rate at which we're rendering the hahhhha planet unliveable hahHahahjhaha fucking good point man. Oh boy@EndlessMason@hachyderm.io @neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org
Running Qwen3.5 on my 7900xtx eats as much power as running any video game. I have zero issue with running LLMs locally to assist with my journals/ notes. Nothing compared to a data center. -
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Running Qwen3.5 on my 7900xtx eats as much power as running any video game. I have zero issue with running LLMs locally to assist with my journals/ notes. Nothing compared to a data center.@phil @EndlessMason this has gotten a bit tedious for me, if y'all want to continue, please start a thread between yourselves/untag me, thanks
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When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."
I would like to thank every LLM provider and startup for changing this paradigm by introducing a much weaker link in the chain.
@neurovagrant We invented tech vulnerable to classic computer viruses, and social engineering too! Best of both worlds!
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@phil @EndlessMason this has gotten a bit tedious for me, if y'all want to continue, please start a thread between yourselves/untag me, thanks
@neurovagrant nah I'm good
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@neurovagrant nah I'm good
@EndlessMason i hear that
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When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."
I would like to thank every LLM provider and startup for changing this paradigm by introducing a much weaker link in the chain.
@neurovagrant i suspect we have two weak links now, great!
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When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."
I would like to thank every LLM provider and startup for changing this paradigm by introducing a much weaker link in the chain.
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When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."
I would like to thank every LLM provider and startup for changing this paradigm by introducing a much weaker link in the chain.
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When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."
I would like to thank every LLM provider and startup for changing this paradigm by introducing a much weaker link in the chain.
@neurovagrant To err is human, but to *really* agree things up you need a computer.
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@cR0w @neurovagrant
Or *was* it? <dramatic music> -
@cR0w @neurovagrant
Or *was* it? <dramatic music> -
When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."
I would like to thank every LLM provider and startup for changing this paradigm by introducing a much weaker link in the chain.
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When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."
I would like to thank every LLM provider and startup for changing this paradigm by introducing a much weaker link in the chain.
@neurovagrant Well we do have humans carelessly accepting AI submits without an review: one could consider them an even weaker chain.
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When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."
I would like to thank every LLM provider and startup for changing this paradigm by introducing a much weaker link in the chain.
@neurovagrant It's still kind of a human's fault for installing that weak link. The weakest link are the c-suite making terrible decisions.
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When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."
I would like to thank every LLM provider and startup for changing this paradigm by introducing a much weaker link in the chain.
@neurovagrant okay, now the weakest link is the human who decided "I think I'll outsource my work to a dumbass who's wrong about everything."
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When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."
I would like to thank every LLM provider and startup for changing this paradigm by introducing a much weaker link in the chain.
@neurovagrant now the weakest link is the human who decided to implement AI.
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Running Qwen3.5 on my 7900xtx eats as much power as running any video game. I have zero issue with running LLMs locally to assist with my journals/ notes. Nothing compared to a data center.@phil @neurovagrant @EndlessMason similar experience. humans can drive these models if they have a decent engineering/security understanding. i've got no issue with leveraging it to offload tedious tasks and operational burden.
but to your point on the human factor, there's been a lot of footgunning lately. even with principal staff getting lazy.
running models on a ada4000-20gb works pretty nicely and way less power use than a dc or some 5090 monster i need a new circuit for
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When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."
I would like to thank every LLM provider and startup for changing this paradigm by introducing a much weaker link in the chain.
@neurovagrant it still is the human. They just changed how they break things. Instead of breaking things themselves they trust a machine that does it.
