When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."
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@EndlessMason@hachyderm.io @neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org As a sidenote, I've seen things you wouldn't believe in the last few months that has me genuinely convinced that it's humans that made LLMs look bad, rather than LLMs being bad intrinsically (aside from the copyright issues, power drain, freshwater use, global warming, financial abuse, privacy issues, deals with government...).
The math models (locally hosted, fitting on gaming GPUs) can be fairly easily be made useful and helpful (a few days of effort after work) in menial tasks that can't be completed deterministically, provided basic oversight. They cost pennies, and they're private.@phil @neurovagrant
HahhahahahhahhahhahhhahhHhHahjahahhahahahhahahhahahhaHhHHHhz aside from escalating the rate at which we're rendering the hahhhha planet unliveable hahHahahjhaha fucking good point man. Oh boy -
@phil @EndlessMason "guns don't kill people" hasn't been convincing for decades.
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Guns, like any tool, need to be carefully managed by any human owning/ controlling them. LLMs can do a crapload of damage, but they can't be held accountable, just like a computer can't be held accountable for what sysadmins do. -
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To my knowledge, the fundamental forces of the universe, just like dead matter (including LLMs), don't have agency of their own.
Humans do.@phil @neurovagrant
I don't.I'm a stimulus-response machine. I'm governed by the laws of physics exclusively.
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@phil @neurovagrant
HahhahahahhahhahhahhhahhHhHahjahahhahahahhahahhahahhaHhHHHhz aside from escalating the rate at which we're rendering the hahhhha planet unliveable hahHahahjhaha fucking good point man. Oh boy@EndlessMason@hachyderm.io @neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org
Running Qwen3.5 on my 7900xtx eats as much power as running any video game. I have zero issue with running LLMs locally to assist with my journals/ notes. Nothing compared to a data center. -
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Running Qwen3.5 on my 7900xtx eats as much power as running any video game. I have zero issue with running LLMs locally to assist with my journals/ notes. Nothing compared to a data center.@phil @EndlessMason this has gotten a bit tedious for me, if y'all want to continue, please start a thread between yourselves/untag me, thanks
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When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."
I would like to thank every LLM provider and startup for changing this paradigm by introducing a much weaker link in the chain.
@neurovagrant We invented tech vulnerable to classic computer viruses, and social engineering too! Best of both worlds!
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@phil @EndlessMason this has gotten a bit tedious for me, if y'all want to continue, please start a thread between yourselves/untag me, thanks
@neurovagrant nah I'm good
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@neurovagrant nah I'm good
@EndlessMason i hear that
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When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."
I would like to thank every LLM provider and startup for changing this paradigm by introducing a much weaker link in the chain.
@neurovagrant i suspect we have two weak links now, great!
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When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."
I would like to thank every LLM provider and startup for changing this paradigm by introducing a much weaker link in the chain.
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When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."
I would like to thank every LLM provider and startup for changing this paradigm by introducing a much weaker link in the chain.
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When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."
I would like to thank every LLM provider and startup for changing this paradigm by introducing a much weaker link in the chain.
@neurovagrant To err is human, but to *really* agree things up you need a computer.
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@cR0w @neurovagrant
Or *was* it? <dramatic music> -
@cR0w @neurovagrant
Or *was* it? <dramatic music> -
When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."
I would like to thank every LLM provider and startup for changing this paradigm by introducing a much weaker link in the chain.
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When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."
I would like to thank every LLM provider and startup for changing this paradigm by introducing a much weaker link in the chain.
@neurovagrant Well we do have humans carelessly accepting AI submits without an review: one could consider them an even weaker chain.
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When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."
I would like to thank every LLM provider and startup for changing this paradigm by introducing a much weaker link in the chain.
@neurovagrant It's still kind of a human's fault for installing that weak link. The weakest link are the c-suite making terrible decisions.
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When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."
I would like to thank every LLM provider and startup for changing this paradigm by introducing a much weaker link in the chain.
@neurovagrant okay, now the weakest link is the human who decided "I think I'll outsource my work to a dumbass who's wrong about everything."
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When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."
I would like to thank every LLM provider and startup for changing this paradigm by introducing a much weaker link in the chain.
@neurovagrant now the weakest link is the human who decided to implement AI.
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Running Qwen3.5 on my 7900xtx eats as much power as running any video game. I have zero issue with running LLMs locally to assist with my journals/ notes. Nothing compared to a data center.@phil @neurovagrant @EndlessMason similar experience. humans can drive these models if they have a decent engineering/security understanding. i've got no issue with leveraging it to offload tedious tasks and operational burden.
but to your point on the human factor, there's been a lot of footgunning lately. even with principal staff getting lazy.
running models on a ada4000-20gb works pretty nicely and way less power use than a dc or some 5090 monster i need a new circuit for
