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When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."

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  • phil@fed.bajsicki.comP phil@fed.bajsicki.com

    @EndlessMason@hachyderm.io @neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org
    Running Qwen3.5 on my 7900xtx eats as much power as running any video game. I have zero issue with running LLMs locally to assist with my journals/ notes. Nothing compared to a data center.

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    @phil @EndlessMason this has gotten a bit tedious for me, if y'all want to continue, please start a thread between yourselves/untag me, thanks

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    • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

      When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."

      I would like to thank every LLM provider and startup for changing this paradigm by introducing a much weaker link in the chain.

      the_blackwell_ninja@mastodon.onlineT This user is from outside of this forum
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      @neurovagrant We invented tech vulnerable to classic computer viruses, and social engineering too! Best of both worlds!

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      • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

        @phil @EndlessMason this has gotten a bit tedious for me, if y'all want to continue, please start a thread between yourselves/untag me, thanks

        endlessmason@hachyderm.ioE This user is from outside of this forum
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        @neurovagrant nah I'm good

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        • endlessmason@hachyderm.ioE endlessmason@hachyderm.io

          @neurovagrant nah I'm good

          neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN This user is from outside of this forum
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          @EndlessMason i hear that

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          • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

            When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."

            I would like to thank every LLM provider and startup for changing this paradigm by introducing a much weaker link in the chain.

            ox1de@cyberplace.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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            @neurovagrant i suspect we have two weak links now, great!

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            • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

              When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."

              I would like to thank every LLM provider and startup for changing this paradigm by introducing a much weaker link in the chain.

              kitkat_blue@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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              @neurovagrant

              :sigh: better than humans *again*!

              the end is nigh....

              (/s)

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              • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."

                I would like to thank every LLM provider and startup for changing this paradigm by introducing a much weaker link in the chain.

                cr0w@infosec.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
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                @neurovagrant

                massive bong rip

                Who decided to deploy the LLMs? It wasn't a computer...

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                • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                  When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."

                  I would like to thank every LLM provider and startup for changing this paradigm by introducing a much weaker link in the chain.

                  misusecase@twit.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @neurovagrant To err is human, but to *really* agree things up you need a computer.

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                  • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

                    @neurovagrant

                    massive bong rip

                    Who decided to deploy the LLMs? It wasn't a computer...

                    lerxst@az.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @cR0w @neurovagrant
                    Or *was* it? <dramatic music>

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                    • lerxst@az.socialL lerxst@az.social

                      @cR0w @neurovagrant
                      Or *was* it? <dramatic music>

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                      @lerxst @neurovagrant

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                      • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                        When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."

                        I would like to thank every LLM provider and startup for changing this paradigm by introducing a much weaker link in the chain.

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                        @neurovagrant

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                        • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                          When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."

                          I would like to thank every LLM provider and startup for changing this paradigm by introducing a much weaker link in the chain.

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                          @neurovagrant Well we do have humans carelessly accepting AI submits without an review: one could consider them an even weaker chain.

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                          • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                            When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."

                            I would like to thank every LLM provider and startup for changing this paradigm by introducing a much weaker link in the chain.

                            starkrg@myside-yourside.netS This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @neurovagrant It's still kind of a human's fault for installing that weak link. The weakest link are the c-suite making terrible decisions.

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                            • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                              When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."

                              I would like to thank every LLM provider and startup for changing this paradigm by introducing a much weaker link in the chain.

                              madengineering@mastodon.cloudM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @neurovagrant okay, now the weakest link is the human who decided "I think I'll outsource my work to a dumbass who's wrong about everything."

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                              • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                                When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."

                                I would like to thank every LLM provider and startup for changing this paradigm by introducing a much weaker link in the chain.

                                chasalin@mastodon.chasalin.nlC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @neurovagrant now the weakest link is the human who decided to implement AI.
                                So what's changed?

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                                • phil@fed.bajsicki.comP phil@fed.bajsicki.com

                                  @EndlessMason@hachyderm.io @neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org
                                  Running Qwen3.5 on my 7900xtx eats as much power as running any video game. I have zero issue with running LLMs locally to assist with my journals/ notes. Nothing compared to a data center.

                                  jae@mastodon.bsd.cafeJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @phil @neurovagrant @EndlessMason similar experience. humans can drive these models if they have a decent engineering/security understanding. i've got no issue with leveraging it to offload tedious tasks and operational burden.

                                  but to your point on the human factor, there's been a lot of footgunning lately. even with principal staff getting lazy.

                                  running models on a ada4000-20gb works pretty nicely and way less power use than a dc or some 5090 monster i need a new circuit for

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                                  • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                                    When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."

                                    I would like to thank every LLM provider and startup for changing this paradigm by introducing a much weaker link in the chain.

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                                    @neurovagrant it still is the human. They just changed how they break things. Instead of breaking things themselves they trust a machine that does it.

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                                    • jae@mastodon.bsd.cafeJ jae@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                      @phil @neurovagrant @EndlessMason similar experience. humans can drive these models if they have a decent engineering/security understanding. i've got no issue with leveraging it to offload tedious tasks and operational burden.

                                      but to your point on the human factor, there's been a lot of footgunning lately. even with principal staff getting lazy.

                                      running models on a ada4000-20gb works pretty nicely and way less power use than a dc or some 5090 monster i need a new circuit for

                                      phil@fed.bajsicki.comP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @jae@mastodon.bsd.cafe @neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org @EndlessMason@hachyderm.io
                                      I just give the LLM some tools to read my journals, and then type my notes into my note git repo in a separate place.

                                      https://codeberg.org/bajsicki/gptel-got

                                      I've a bunch of re-writes locally, but they're not ready to be out in public yet until I test more and gain confidence.

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                                      • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                                        When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."

                                        I would like to thank every LLM provider and startup for changing this paradigm by introducing a much weaker link in the chain.

                                        neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        Thank you to everyone saying "it's still the human."

                                        No, it isn't. It's product deployment without any concern for security or impact. This is the equivalent of suggesting every customer catch a falling knife, for their own benefit.

                                        This is nondeterministic, autonomous malicious enablement, and we cannot blame the user as much as I'd like to.

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                                        • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                                          When I started in security, one of the prevailing attitudes was "The weakest link in the chain will always be the human."

                                          I would like to thank every LLM provider and startup for changing this paradigm by introducing a much weaker link in the chain.

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                                          @neurovagrant

                                          Turns out the weakest link was just waiting for a better prompt.

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