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  • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

    @adipoeserPursch @ralen good to know. i added wikipedia link so people can find all other options that i missed.

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    @nixCraft Here's their english written link: https://www.twint.ch/en/press/twint-makes-switzerlands-payment-infrastructure-more-independent/
    @ralen

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    • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

      Good! Europeans are dumping VISA and MasterCard.

      Adieu Visa et Mastercard : 130 millions d'Européens basculent vers un paiement 100 % souverain dès 2026 ( English translation: Goodbye Visa and Mastercard: 130 million Europeans will switch to 100% sovereign payment by 2026 ) https://www.lesnumeriques.com/banque-en-ligne/adieu-visa-et-mastercard-130-millions-d-europeens-basculent-vers-un-paiement-100-souverain-des-2026-n250918.html

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      #16

      @nixCraft Wero is currently hosted on AWS, but it's also requiring your bank app which is most likely exclusively distributed through Google and Apple market places, and I have not heard any plan about addressing that second part.

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      • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

        Here are other sovereign payment networks designed to bypass the traditional US big tech based credit/debit card (unsorted list):
        a) EU - Wero & EPI
        b) China - UnionPay, Alipay & WeChat Pay
        c) India - UPI/RuPay
        d) Brazil - Pix
        e) Turkey - TROY
        f) Pan African nations are also building or have independent payment networks

        More https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Credit_card_issuer_associations

        We will see more digital sovereignty for security, privacy and to have independent control over their digital assets, infrastructure and data

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        #17

        @nixCraft Bizum in Spain.

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        • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

          Good! Europeans are dumping VISA and MasterCard.

          Adieu Visa et Mastercard : 130 millions d'Européens basculent vers un paiement 100 % souverain dès 2026 ( English translation: Goodbye Visa and Mastercard: 130 million Europeans will switch to 100% sovereign payment by 2026 ) https://www.lesnumeriques.com/banque-en-ligne/adieu-visa-et-mastercard-130-millions-d-europeens-basculent-vers-un-paiement-100-souverain-des-2026-n250918.html

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          @nixCraft
          ...sauf que Wero dépend des services AWS, donc d'Amazon

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          • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

            Good! Europeans are dumping VISA and MasterCard.

            Adieu Visa et Mastercard : 130 millions d'Européens basculent vers un paiement 100 % souverain dès 2026 ( English translation: Goodbye Visa and Mastercard: 130 million Europeans will switch to 100% sovereign payment by 2026 ) https://www.lesnumeriques.com/banque-en-ligne/adieu-visa-et-mastercard-130-millions-d-europeens-basculent-vers-un-paiement-100-souverain-des-2026-n250918.html

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            @nixCraft Wero runs on US infrastructure and as long as there is no unified Wero App that works across all banks I see zero chance of Wero becoming close to mainstream.
            And even then, mainstream would mean replacing PayPal at most.
            Replacing credit cards would also mean offering a system for in-person payments.

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            • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

              Good! Europeans are dumping VISA and MasterCard.

              Adieu Visa et Mastercard : 130 millions d'Européens basculent vers un paiement 100 % souverain dès 2026 ( English translation: Goodbye Visa and Mastercard: 130 million Europeans will switch to 100% sovereign payment by 2026 ) https://www.lesnumeriques.com/banque-en-ligne/adieu-visa-et-mastercard-130-millions-d-europeens-basculent-vers-un-paiement-100-souverain-des-2026-n250918.html

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              @nixCraft Isn’t this the thing that requires an app on Apple’s App Store or Google Play, and only useful for sending money to other people (which doesn’t usually use credit cards and is already doable with SEPA)?
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              • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                Here are other sovereign payment networks designed to bypass the traditional US big tech based credit/debit card (unsorted list):
                a) EU - Wero & EPI
                b) China - UnionPay, Alipay & WeChat Pay
                c) India - UPI/RuPay
                d) Brazil - Pix
                e) Turkey - TROY
                f) Pan African nations are also building or have independent payment networks

                More https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Credit_card_issuer_associations

                We will see more digital sovereignty for security, privacy and to have independent control over their digital assets, infrastructure and data

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                @nixCraft PIX MENTIONED

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                • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                  Here are other sovereign payment networks designed to bypass the traditional US big tech based credit/debit card (unsorted list):
                  a) EU - Wero & EPI
                  b) China - UnionPay, Alipay & WeChat Pay
                  c) India - UPI/RuPay
                  d) Brazil - Pix
                  e) Turkey - TROY
                  f) Pan African nations are also building or have independent payment networks

                  More https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Credit_card_issuer_associations

                  We will see more digital sovereignty for security, privacy and to have independent control over their digital assets, infrastructure and data

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                  @nixCraft Poland also has its own payment system called BLIK. It allows for online payments (which are more popular in Poland than online card payments), contactless terminal payments, and instant mobile transfers using just a phone number.

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                  • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                    Here are other sovereign payment networks designed to bypass the traditional US big tech based credit/debit card (unsorted list):
                    a) EU - Wero & EPI
                    b) China - UnionPay, Alipay & WeChat Pay
                    c) India - UPI/RuPay
                    d) Brazil - Pix
                    e) Turkey - TROY
                    f) Pan African nations are also building or have independent payment networks

                    More https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Credit_card_issuer_associations

                    We will see more digital sovereignty for security, privacy and to have independent control over their digital assets, infrastructure and data

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                    @nixCraft don’t forget in Indonesia we have GPN (Gerbang Pembayaran Nasional) and QRIS (Quick Response Code Indonesian Standard) that are also domestic payment network to completely independent from US-based payments.

                    GPN: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerbang_Pembayaran_Nasional
                    QRIS: https://www.bi.go.id/id/fungsi-utama/sistem-pembayaran/ritel/kanal-layanan/qris/default.aspx

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                    • mxk@hachyderm.ioM mxk@hachyderm.io

                      @nixCraft Wero runs on US infrastructure and as long as there is no unified Wero App that works across all banks I see zero chance of Wero becoming close to mainstream.
                      And even then, mainstream would mean replacing PayPal at most.
                      Replacing credit cards would also mean offering a system for in-person payments.

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                      @mxk @nixCraft

                      Why do we need an unified wero app? I can send and receive money from my banking app to every other wero user.

                      For me it looks like wero is just a database for mapping phone numbers or email adresses to IBANs

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                      • snejpro@digitalcourage.socialS snejpro@digitalcourage.social

                        @mxk @nixCraft

                        Why do we need an unified wero app? I can send and receive money from my banking app to every other wero user.

                        For me it looks like wero is just a database for mapping phone numbers or email adresses to IBANs

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                        @SnejPro @nixCraft if I can't answer how to get started with Wero to my friends, how should this gain traction?
                        If I want to convince someone to use it, the current answer is: maybe your bank has an app for it. Or maybe it's integrated in a big online banking app and you need that. Or something different all together.
                        And if you don't use an iPhone or Google Android you probably can't use Wero at all.

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                          @niesluch @nixCraft Yes, but only contactless payments are based on MasterCard system. Online payments aren’t.

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                          • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                            Here are other sovereign payment networks designed to bypass the traditional US big tech based credit/debit card (unsorted list):
                            a) EU - Wero & EPI
                            b) China - UnionPay, Alipay & WeChat Pay
                            c) India - UPI/RuPay
                            d) Brazil - Pix
                            e) Turkey - TROY
                            f) Pan African nations are also building or have independent payment networks

                            More https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Credit_card_issuer_associations

                            We will see more digital sovereignty for security, privacy and to have independent control over their digital assets, infrastructure and data

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                            @nixCraft

                            argentina: transferencia. Between bank or wallet accounts. Free.

                            Altho most of it is done by wallets and not banks and I don't know exactly why

                            Anyways, usa is investigating pix as if brazil was some kind of terrorist state for *check notes* handling their own shit

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                            • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                              Here are other sovereign payment networks designed to bypass the traditional US big tech based credit/debit card (unsorted list):
                              a) EU - Wero & EPI
                              b) China - UnionPay, Alipay & WeChat Pay
                              c) India - UPI/RuPay
                              d) Brazil - Pix
                              e) Turkey - TROY
                              f) Pan African nations are also building or have independent payment networks

                              More https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Credit_card_issuer_associations

                              We will see more digital sovereignty for security, privacy and to have independent control over their digital assets, infrastructure and data

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                              @nixCraft also: most banks and argentinian wallets now have a service to pay in brazil by pix with no extra fee

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                              • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                Here are other sovereign payment networks designed to bypass the traditional US big tech based credit/debit card (unsorted list):
                                a) EU - Wero & EPI
                                b) China - UnionPay, Alipay & WeChat Pay
                                c) India - UPI/RuPay
                                d) Brazil - Pix
                                e) Turkey - TROY
                                f) Pan African nations are also building or have independent payment networks

                                More https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Credit_card_issuer_associations

                                We will see more digital sovereignty for security, privacy and to have independent control over their digital assets, infrastructure and data

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                                @nixCraft I kinda wish Wero was less ass on my bank. I cannot send money to people via e-mail and only to people in my phones contacts.

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