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  3. Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 06 - 3 Mar - Ravières - Paris - Lille - Orchies - Tournai - Bruxelles Midi - Almere

Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 06 - 3 Mar - Ravières - Paris - Lille - Orchies - Tournai - Bruxelles Midi - Almere

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  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

    Here's today's #CrossBorderRail intro video https://peertube.netzbegruenung.de/w/q43wxMi1MiPck4MhZM2qZT

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    @jon sudden cliffhanger at the end 😂

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    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

      Musing about bumpy ride quality on trains this morning

      As ever I am on a Régiolis EMU to Paris this morning - an Alstom design, now owned by CAF

      These trains have a rather jerky, bumpy sort of ride, and the suspension makes clanking noises all the time (not just today)

      Are the jabobs bogies between carriages poorly designed?

      Wdyt @hopla @wrzlbrnft ?

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      @jon (the design of the Coradia Polyvalent is still Alstom and AFAIK so is the software maintenance, but the assembly and hardware maintenance is contracted to CAF Reichshoffen as part of the Alstom-Bombardier merger deal -the latter having an assembly workshop in Crespin)

      The Régiolis' suspensions are kinda "harder" than those of the AGC, they usually hold rather well very bumpy tracks such as the Bruyères - Arches line (whereas on AGC one can feel sometimes metal hitting metal in the suspensions). That is, as long the air pressure is nominal, the air cushion in good state and the train not overloaded. I'm unaware if there's a difference in design between bimode (+fuel weight) and pure electric in that aspect. I'd need to experience it to judge if that's abnormal noise/movement ^^

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        @jon (the design of the Coradia Polyvalent is still Alstom and AFAIK so is the software maintenance, but the assembly and hardware maintenance is contracted to CAF Reichshoffen as part of the Alstom-Bombardier merger deal -the latter having an assembly workshop in Crespin)

        The Régiolis' suspensions are kinda "harder" than those of the AGC, they usually hold rather well very bumpy tracks such as the Bruyères - Arches line (whereas on AGC one can feel sometimes metal hitting metal in the suspensions). That is, as long the air pressure is nominal, the air cushion in good state and the train not overloaded. I'm unaware if there's a difference in design between bimode (+fuel weight) and pure electric in that aspect. I'd need to experience it to judge if that's abnormal noise/movement ^^

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        @hopla I am not sure the AGC is much different, or at least not better! Those also rock sideways more!

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        • hopla@zug.networkH hopla@zug.network

          @jon (the design of the Coradia Polyvalent is still Alstom and AFAIK so is the software maintenance, but the assembly and hardware maintenance is contracted to CAF Reichshoffen as part of the Alstom-Bombardier merger deal -the latter having an assembly workshop in Crespin)

          The Régiolis' suspensions are kinda "harder" than those of the AGC, they usually hold rather well very bumpy tracks such as the Bruyères - Arches line (whereas on AGC one can feel sometimes metal hitting metal in the suspensions). That is, as long the air pressure is nominal, the air cushion in good state and the train not overloaded. I'm unaware if there's a difference in design between bimode (+fuel weight) and pure electric in that aspect. I'd need to experience it to judge if that's abnormal noise/movement ^^

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          @hopla Also it must be said that this line ought to be an Intercités really. The Régiolis does a steady 150km/h for long sections here. And it is not really designed as that sort of train...

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          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

            @hopla I am not sure the AGC is much different, or at least not better! Those also rock sideways more!

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            @jon rollercoaster ride at a fraction of the cost of an Europa Park ticket ✨
            That said, I'm thinking of something: "track deformation slow creep": when a train track deteriorates over time but just slow enough so that train drivers doing it daily don't immediately notice something abnormal developing and thus don't report it for the infra operator to go check the geometry with measurement engines outside scheduled audits. (the budget to do any fixing about it is another story)

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            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

              @hopla Also it must be said that this line ought to be an Intercités really. The Régiolis does a steady 150km/h for long sections here. And it is not really designed as that sort of train...

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              @jon the Coradia Liner wouldn't differ much in terms of design on that aspect I guess.. but as newer intercités rolling stock there's Oxygène (entirely CAF design IIRC, I know relatively little about it except it's to be built in Reichshoffen too)

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              • hopla@zug.networkH hopla@zug.network

                @jon the Coradia Liner wouldn't differ much in terms of design on that aspect I guess.. but as newer intercités rolling stock there's Oxygène (entirely CAF design IIRC, I know relatively little about it except it's to be built in Reichshoffen too)

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                @hopla CAF‘s Media Distancia EMUs in Spain are horrid. I hope they install better suspension!

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                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                  Waving metaphorically to @ffeth at Sens

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                  Made it across Paris in one piece

                  The city might have solid bike infrastructure, but damn many cyclists here are annoying, or have death wishes, or both

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                    Made it across Paris in one piece

                    The city might have solid bike infrastructure, but damn many cyclists here are annoying, or have death wishes, or both

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                    And while Paris Nord is often associated with nasty train boarding experiences, it is an amazing station if you have time and calm to appreciate it

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                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                      Made it across Paris in one piece

                      The city might have solid bike infrastructure, but damn many cyclists here are annoying, or have death wishes, or both

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                      @jon

                      C'est vrai!

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                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                        And while Paris Nord is often associated with nasty train boarding experiences, it is an amazing station if you have time and calm to appreciate it

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                        @jon "Monsieur vous ne pouvez pas attendre sur les quais!" is my typical gare du nord experience

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                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                          @hopla CAF‘s Media Distancia EMUs in Spain are horrid. I hope they install better suspension!

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                          @jon oh they better... Or else: no 200 kph.

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                            And while Paris Nord is often associated with nasty train boarding experiences, it is an amazing station if you have time and calm to appreciate it

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                            #CrossBorderRail 2026 Spring Tour Train 14 of 80
                            TGV 7025
                            10:12 Paris Nord - Lille Flandres 11:18
                            SNCF Voyageurs

                            Train type: Alstom TGV Duplex, 8 short double deck carriages, 2 power cars
                            ⚡️ (25kV ac)
                            🚲: ⛔️
                            🦽: ✅ (step free, then lift down inside)
                            🛜: ✅
                            🍽️: ⛔️ (there is a dining car but it’s not open)
                            🧳: 😐 (it’s empty today, so it’s passable)
                            🧽: 🙂
                            Interrail: 😐 (needs compulsory reservation, costs at least €10)

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                              And while Paris Nord is often associated with nasty train boarding experiences, it is an amazing station if you have time and calm to appreciate it

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                              @jon that is a very very big if.

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                              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                #CrossBorderRail 2026 Spring Tour Train 14 of 80
                                TGV 7025
                                10:12 Paris Nord - Lille Flandres 11:18
                                SNCF Voyageurs

                                Train type: Alstom TGV Duplex, 8 short double deck carriages, 2 power cars
                                ⚡️ (25kV ac)
                                🚲: ⛔️
                                🦽: ✅ (step free, then lift down inside)
                                🛜: ✅
                                🍽️: ⛔️ (there is a dining car but it’s not open)
                                🧳: 😐 (it’s empty today, so it’s passable)
                                🧽: 🙂
                                Interrail: 😐 (needs compulsory reservation, costs at least €10)

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                                TGV 7025
                                10:12 Paris Nord - Lille Flandres 11:18

                                Distance: 225.2km
                                Average speed: 205km/h

                                1 stops:
                                Lille Flandres

                                This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#8/50.097679/2.449951

                                #CrossBorderRail

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                                  TGV 7025
                                  10:12 Paris Nord - Lille Flandres 11:18

                                  Distance: 225.2km
                                  Average speed: 205km/h

                                  1 stops:
                                  Lille Flandres

                                  This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#8/50.097679/2.449951

                                  #CrossBorderRail

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                                  I meanwhile wondered if SNCF Connect has finally put their problem of their lack of international booking right... so I tried Paris - Mainz

                                  Type Mainz into DB and it gives you Mainz Hbf as the first option in the search

                                  SNCF Connect calls Mainz Hbf "Mayence (Mainz)" but drops Hbf. Put Hbf and it gives you Hbf (Ersatzverkehr). What? 😳

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                                    I meanwhile wondered if SNCF Connect has finally put their problem of their lack of international booking right... so I tried Paris - Mainz

                                    Type Mainz into DB and it gives you Mainz Hbf as the first option in the search

                                    SNCF Connect calls Mainz Hbf "Mayence (Mainz)" but drops Hbf. Put Hbf and it gives you Hbf (Ersatzverkehr). What? 😳

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                                    And if you put Mainz and choose "Ville" from the list, not "Gare", it gives you routes to Mainz Römisches Theater, changing at Bad Munster am Stein

                                    Obviously 🤷‍♂️

                                    I presume because Römisches Theater is closest to the geographical centre of Mainz?

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                                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                      Made it across Paris in one piece

                                      The city might have solid bike infrastructure, but damn many cyclists here are annoying, or have death wishes, or both

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                                      @jon Fact.

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                                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                        And if you put Mainz and choose "Ville" from the list, not "Gare", it gives you routes to Mainz Römisches Theater, changing at Bad Munster am Stein

                                        Obviously 🤷‍♂️

                                        I presume because Römisches Theater is closest to the geographical centre of Mainz?

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                                        But weirdly it does give prices... and even sort of Sparpreis. But with €15 price difference.

                                        Why?

                                        How?

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                                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                          I meanwhile wondered if SNCF Connect has finally put their problem of their lack of international booking right... so I tried Paris - Mainz

                                          Type Mainz into DB and it gives you Mainz Hbf as the first option in the search

                                          SNCF Connect calls Mainz Hbf "Mayence (Mainz)" but drops Hbf. Put Hbf and it gives you Hbf (Ersatzverkehr). What? 😳

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                                          @jon also Perl somehow belongs to the Région Occitanie now according to SNCF Connect

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