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  3. Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 06 - 3 Mar - Ravières - Paris - Lille - Orchies - Tournai - Bruxelles Midi - Almere

Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 06 - 3 Mar - Ravières - Paris - Lille - Orchies - Tournai - Bruxelles Midi - Almere

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  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

    Also here's a bit of reading material for you this morning, with plenty of #CrossBorderRail themes in it: my extra newsletter, sent out yesterday https://jonworth.eu/tgv-les-laumes-alesia-asterix-is-having-a-laugh/

    Stories from France, Czechia, Germany and Denmark!

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    #CrossBorderRail 2026 Spring Tour Train 13 of 80
    TER 17750
    06:21 Nuits-sous-Ravières - Paris Bercy 08:38
    SNCF for TER Mobigo

    Train type: Alstom Régiolis EMU, 2x 6 short carriages
    ⚡️ (1.5kV dc)
    🚲: ✅
    🦽: ✅ (step free if station allows, Nuits doesn’t, Bercy does)
    🛜: ⛔️
    🍽️: ⛔️
    🧳: 🙂
    🧽: 😐 (grimy windows)
    Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

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      #CrossBorderRail 2026 Spring Tour Train 13 of 80
      TER 17750
      06:21 Nuits-sous-Ravières - Paris Bercy 08:38
      SNCF for TER Mobigo

      Train type: Alstom Régiolis EMU, 2x 6 short carriages
      ⚡️ (1.5kV dc)
      🚲: ✅
      🦽: ✅ (step free if station allows, Nuits doesn’t, Bercy does)
      🛜: ⛔️
      🍽️: ⛔️
      🧳: 🙂
      🧽: 😐 (grimy windows)
      Interrail: 🙂 (accepted)

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      TER 17750
      06:21 Nuits-sous-Ravières - Paris Bercy 08:38

      Distance: 224.5km
      Average speed: 98km/h (reduced average as it uses the slow line Montereau-Melun)

      6 stops:
      Tonnerre
      St-Florentin-Vergigny
      Laroche-Migennes
      Joigny
      Sens
      Paris-Bercy

      This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#9/48.287249/3.297270

      #CrossBorderRail

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      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

        TER 17750
        06:21 Nuits-sous-Ravières - Paris Bercy 08:38

        Distance: 224.5km
        Average speed: 98km/h (reduced average as it uses the slow line Montereau-Melun)

        6 stops:
        Tonnerre
        St-Florentin-Vergigny
        Laroche-Migennes
        Joigny
        Sens
        Paris-Bercy

        This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#9/48.287249/3.297270

        #CrossBorderRail

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        And why am I heading towards Netherlands (other than to visit more #CrossBorderRail borders, obviously!)

        Tomorrow I am speaking at RailTech Europe in Utrecht (about my #CrossChannelRail work) and then meeting the other founders of @erpu (@redjives @patrick @partim) in Utrecht - public meeting, others very welcome!

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        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

          And why am I heading towards Netherlands (other than to visit more #CrossBorderRail borders, obviously!)

          Tomorrow I am speaking at RailTech Europe in Utrecht (about my #CrossChannelRail work) and then meeting the other founders of @erpu (@redjives @patrick @partim) in Utrecht - public meeting, others very welcome!

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          Musing about bumpy ride quality on trains this morning

          As ever I am on a Régiolis EMU to Paris this morning - an Alstom design, now owned by CAF

          These trains have a rather jerky, bumpy sort of ride, and the suspension makes clanking noises all the time (not just today)

          Are the jabobs bogies between carriages poorly designed?

          Wdyt @hopla @wrzlbrnft ?

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          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

            Musing about bumpy ride quality on trains this morning

            As ever I am on a Régiolis EMU to Paris this morning - an Alstom design, now owned by CAF

            These trains have a rather jerky, bumpy sort of ride, and the suspension makes clanking noises all the time (not just today)

            Are the jabobs bogies between carriages poorly designed?

            Wdyt @hopla @wrzlbrnft ?

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            Waving metaphorically to @ffeth at Sens

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            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

              Waving metaphorically to @ffeth at Sens

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              @jon hiii!

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              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                Here's today's #CrossBorderRail intro video https://peertube.netzbegruenung.de/w/q43wxMi1MiPck4MhZM2qZT

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                @jon sudden cliffhanger at the end 😂

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                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                  Musing about bumpy ride quality on trains this morning

                  As ever I am on a Régiolis EMU to Paris this morning - an Alstom design, now owned by CAF

                  These trains have a rather jerky, bumpy sort of ride, and the suspension makes clanking noises all the time (not just today)

                  Are the jabobs bogies between carriages poorly designed?

                  Wdyt @hopla @wrzlbrnft ?

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                  @jon (the design of the Coradia Polyvalent is still Alstom and AFAIK so is the software maintenance, but the assembly and hardware maintenance is contracted to CAF Reichshoffen as part of the Alstom-Bombardier merger deal -the latter having an assembly workshop in Crespin)

                  The Régiolis' suspensions are kinda "harder" than those of the AGC, they usually hold rather well very bumpy tracks such as the Bruyères - Arches line (whereas on AGC one can feel sometimes metal hitting metal in the suspensions). That is, as long the air pressure is nominal, the air cushion in good state and the train not overloaded. I'm unaware if there's a difference in design between bimode (+fuel weight) and pure electric in that aspect. I'd need to experience it to judge if that's abnormal noise/movement ^^

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                  • hopla@zug.networkH hopla@zug.network

                    @jon (the design of the Coradia Polyvalent is still Alstom and AFAIK so is the software maintenance, but the assembly and hardware maintenance is contracted to CAF Reichshoffen as part of the Alstom-Bombardier merger deal -the latter having an assembly workshop in Crespin)

                    The Régiolis' suspensions are kinda "harder" than those of the AGC, they usually hold rather well very bumpy tracks such as the Bruyères - Arches line (whereas on AGC one can feel sometimes metal hitting metal in the suspensions). That is, as long the air pressure is nominal, the air cushion in good state and the train not overloaded. I'm unaware if there's a difference in design between bimode (+fuel weight) and pure electric in that aspect. I'd need to experience it to judge if that's abnormal noise/movement ^^

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                    @hopla I am not sure the AGC is much different, or at least not better! Those also rock sideways more!

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                    • hopla@zug.networkH hopla@zug.network

                      @jon (the design of the Coradia Polyvalent is still Alstom and AFAIK so is the software maintenance, but the assembly and hardware maintenance is contracted to CAF Reichshoffen as part of the Alstom-Bombardier merger deal -the latter having an assembly workshop in Crespin)

                      The Régiolis' suspensions are kinda "harder" than those of the AGC, they usually hold rather well very bumpy tracks such as the Bruyères - Arches line (whereas on AGC one can feel sometimes metal hitting metal in the suspensions). That is, as long the air pressure is nominal, the air cushion in good state and the train not overloaded. I'm unaware if there's a difference in design between bimode (+fuel weight) and pure electric in that aspect. I'd need to experience it to judge if that's abnormal noise/movement ^^

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                      @hopla Also it must be said that this line ought to be an Intercités really. The Régiolis does a steady 150km/h for long sections here. And it is not really designed as that sort of train...

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                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                        @hopla I am not sure the AGC is much different, or at least not better! Those also rock sideways more!

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                        @jon rollercoaster ride at a fraction of the cost of an Europa Park ticket ✨
                        That said, I'm thinking of something: "track deformation slow creep": when a train track deteriorates over time but just slow enough so that train drivers doing it daily don't immediately notice something abnormal developing and thus don't report it for the infra operator to go check the geometry with measurement engines outside scheduled audits. (the budget to do any fixing about it is another story)

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                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                          @hopla Also it must be said that this line ought to be an Intercités really. The Régiolis does a steady 150km/h for long sections here. And it is not really designed as that sort of train...

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                          @jon the Coradia Liner wouldn't differ much in terms of design on that aspect I guess.. but as newer intercités rolling stock there's Oxygène (entirely CAF design IIRC, I know relatively little about it except it's to be built in Reichshoffen too)

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                            @jon the Coradia Liner wouldn't differ much in terms of design on that aspect I guess.. but as newer intercités rolling stock there's Oxygène (entirely CAF design IIRC, I know relatively little about it except it's to be built in Reichshoffen too)

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                            @hopla CAF‘s Media Distancia EMUs in Spain are horrid. I hope they install better suspension!

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                              Waving metaphorically to @ffeth at Sens

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                              Made it across Paris in one piece

                              The city might have solid bike infrastructure, but damn many cyclists here are annoying, or have death wishes, or both

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                                Made it across Paris in one piece

                                The city might have solid bike infrastructure, but damn many cyclists here are annoying, or have death wishes, or both

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                                And while Paris Nord is often associated with nasty train boarding experiences, it is an amazing station if you have time and calm to appreciate it

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                                  Made it across Paris in one piece

                                  The city might have solid bike infrastructure, but damn many cyclists here are annoying, or have death wishes, or both

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                                  @jon

                                  C'est vrai!

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                                    And while Paris Nord is often associated with nasty train boarding experiences, it is an amazing station if you have time and calm to appreciate it

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                                    @jon "Monsieur vous ne pouvez pas attendre sur les quais!" is my typical gare du nord experience

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                                      @hopla CAF‘s Media Distancia EMUs in Spain are horrid. I hope they install better suspension!

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                                      @jon oh they better... Or else: no 200 kph.

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                                        And while Paris Nord is often associated with nasty train boarding experiences, it is an amazing station if you have time and calm to appreciate it

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                                        #CrossBorderRail 2026 Spring Tour Train 14 of 80
                                        TGV 7025
                                        10:12 Paris Nord - Lille Flandres 11:18
                                        SNCF Voyageurs

                                        Train type: Alstom TGV Duplex, 8 short double deck carriages, 2 power cars
                                        ⚡️ (25kV ac)
                                        🚲: ⛔️
                                        🦽: ✅ (step free, then lift down inside)
                                        🛜: ✅
                                        🍽️: ⛔️ (there is a dining car but it’s not open)
                                        🧳: 😐 (it’s empty today, so it’s passable)
                                        🧽: 🙂
                                        Interrail: 😐 (needs compulsory reservation, costs at least €10)

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                                          And while Paris Nord is often associated with nasty train boarding experiences, it is an amazing station if you have time and calm to appreciate it

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                                          @jon that is a very very big if.

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