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  3. Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 06 - 3 Mar - Ravières - Paris - Lille - Orchies - Tournai - Bruxelles Midi - Almere

Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 06 - 3 Mar - Ravières - Paris - Lille - Orchies - Tournai - Bruxelles Midi - Almere

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  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

    @hopla I am not sure the AGC is much different, or at least not better! Those also rock sideways more!

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    @jon rollercoaster ride at a fraction of the cost of an Europa Park ticket ✨
    That said, I'm thinking of something: "track deformation slow creep": when a train track deteriorates over time but just slow enough so that train drivers doing it daily don't immediately notice something abnormal developing and thus don't report it for the infra operator to go check the geometry with measurement engines outside scheduled audits. (the budget to do any fixing about it is another story)

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    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

      @hopla Also it must be said that this line ought to be an Intercités really. The Régiolis does a steady 150km/h for long sections here. And it is not really designed as that sort of train...

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      @jon the Coradia Liner wouldn't differ much in terms of design on that aspect I guess.. but as newer intercités rolling stock there's Oxygène (entirely CAF design IIRC, I know relatively little about it except it's to be built in Reichshoffen too)

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      • hopla@zug.networkH hopla@zug.network

        @jon the Coradia Liner wouldn't differ much in terms of design on that aspect I guess.. but as newer intercités rolling stock there's Oxygène (entirely CAF design IIRC, I know relatively little about it except it's to be built in Reichshoffen too)

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        @hopla CAF‘s Media Distancia EMUs in Spain are horrid. I hope they install better suspension!

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        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

          Waving metaphorically to @ffeth at Sens

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          Made it across Paris in one piece

          The city might have solid bike infrastructure, but damn many cyclists here are annoying, or have death wishes, or both

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          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

            Made it across Paris in one piece

            The city might have solid bike infrastructure, but damn many cyclists here are annoying, or have death wishes, or both

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            And while Paris Nord is often associated with nasty train boarding experiences, it is an amazing station if you have time and calm to appreciate it

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            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

              Made it across Paris in one piece

              The city might have solid bike infrastructure, but damn many cyclists here are annoying, or have death wishes, or both

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              @jon

              C'est vrai!

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              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                And while Paris Nord is often associated with nasty train boarding experiences, it is an amazing station if you have time and calm to appreciate it

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                @jon "Monsieur vous ne pouvez pas attendre sur les quais!" is my typical gare du nord experience

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                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                  @hopla CAF‘s Media Distancia EMUs in Spain are horrid. I hope they install better suspension!

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                  @jon oh they better... Or else: no 200 kph.

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                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                    And while Paris Nord is often associated with nasty train boarding experiences, it is an amazing station if you have time and calm to appreciate it

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                    #CrossBorderRail 2026 Spring Tour Train 14 of 80
                    TGV 7025
                    10:12 Paris Nord - Lille Flandres 11:18
                    SNCF Voyageurs

                    Train type: Alstom TGV Duplex, 8 short double deck carriages, 2 power cars
                    ⚡️ (25kV ac)
                    🚲: ⛔️
                    🦽: ✅ (step free, then lift down inside)
                    🛜: ✅
                    🍽️: ⛔️ (there is a dining car but it’s not open)
                    🧳: 😐 (it’s empty today, so it’s passable)
                    🧽: 🙂
                    Interrail: 😐 (needs compulsory reservation, costs at least €10)

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                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                      And while Paris Nord is often associated with nasty train boarding experiences, it is an amazing station if you have time and calm to appreciate it

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                      @jon that is a very very big if.

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                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                        #CrossBorderRail 2026 Spring Tour Train 14 of 80
                        TGV 7025
                        10:12 Paris Nord - Lille Flandres 11:18
                        SNCF Voyageurs

                        Train type: Alstom TGV Duplex, 8 short double deck carriages, 2 power cars
                        ⚡️ (25kV ac)
                        🚲: ⛔️
                        🦽: ✅ (step free, then lift down inside)
                        🛜: ✅
                        🍽️: ⛔️ (there is a dining car but it’s not open)
                        🧳: 😐 (it’s empty today, so it’s passable)
                        🧽: 🙂
                        Interrail: 😐 (needs compulsory reservation, costs at least €10)

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                        TGV 7025
                        10:12 Paris Nord - Lille Flandres 11:18

                        Distance: 225.2km
                        Average speed: 205km/h

                        1 stops:
                        Lille Flandres

                        This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#8/50.097679/2.449951

                        #CrossBorderRail

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                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                          TGV 7025
                          10:12 Paris Nord - Lille Flandres 11:18

                          Distance: 225.2km
                          Average speed: 205km/h

                          1 stops:
                          Lille Flandres

                          This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#8/50.097679/2.449951

                          #CrossBorderRail

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                          I meanwhile wondered if SNCF Connect has finally put their problem of their lack of international booking right... so I tried Paris - Mainz

                          Type Mainz into DB and it gives you Mainz Hbf as the first option in the search

                          SNCF Connect calls Mainz Hbf "Mayence (Mainz)" but drops Hbf. Put Hbf and it gives you Hbf (Ersatzverkehr). What? 😳

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                            I meanwhile wondered if SNCF Connect has finally put their problem of their lack of international booking right... so I tried Paris - Mainz

                            Type Mainz into DB and it gives you Mainz Hbf as the first option in the search

                            SNCF Connect calls Mainz Hbf "Mayence (Mainz)" but drops Hbf. Put Hbf and it gives you Hbf (Ersatzverkehr). What? 😳

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                            And if you put Mainz and choose "Ville" from the list, not "Gare", it gives you routes to Mainz Römisches Theater, changing at Bad Munster am Stein

                            Obviously 🤷‍♂️

                            I presume because Römisches Theater is closest to the geographical centre of Mainz?

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                            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                              Made it across Paris in one piece

                              The city might have solid bike infrastructure, but damn many cyclists here are annoying, or have death wishes, or both

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                              @jon Fact.

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                              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                And if you put Mainz and choose "Ville" from the list, not "Gare", it gives you routes to Mainz Römisches Theater, changing at Bad Munster am Stein

                                Obviously 🤷‍♂️

                                I presume because Römisches Theater is closest to the geographical centre of Mainz?

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                                But weirdly it does give prices... and even sort of Sparpreis. But with €15 price difference.

                                Why?

                                How?

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                                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                  I meanwhile wondered if SNCF Connect has finally put their problem of their lack of international booking right... so I tried Paris - Mainz

                                  Type Mainz into DB and it gives you Mainz Hbf as the first option in the search

                                  SNCF Connect calls Mainz Hbf "Mayence (Mainz)" but drops Hbf. Put Hbf and it gives you Hbf (Ersatzverkehr). What? 😳

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                                  @jon also Perl somehow belongs to the Région Occitanie now according to SNCF Connect

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                                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                    But weirdly it does give prices... and even sort of Sparpreis. But with €15 price difference.

                                    Why?

                                    How?

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                                    @jon And if you hit "continue" will DB actually offer you a ticket?

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                                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                      I meanwhile wondered if SNCF Connect has finally put their problem of their lack of international booking right... so I tried Paris - Mainz

                                      Type Mainz into DB and it gives you Mainz Hbf as the first option in the search

                                      SNCF Connect calls Mainz Hbf "Mayence (Mainz)" but drops Hbf. Put Hbf and it gives you Hbf (Ersatzverkehr). What? 😳

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                                      @jon In this case I think it's not entirely SNCFs fault as DB also uses the "Ersatzverkehr" name in their system for the bus stop. Which is a bit odd and regulary confuses some passengers.

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                                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                        But weirdly it does give prices... and even sort of Sparpreis. But with €15 price difference.

                                        Why?

                                        How?

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                                        Oh and this is an interesting one

                                        SNCF Connect *will* give me a 13 min connection in Mannheim, off the France-Germany ICE

                                        DB will NOT give me that connection, I presume because they know that Dobrindt's illegal non- #Schengen compliant border controls will almost certainly mean the connection is missed in Mannheim. DB puts you on a later ICE in Frankfurt instead

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                                          @jon And if you hit "continue" will DB actually offer you a ticket?

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                                          @f09fa681 Of course. Why would it not?

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