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  3. Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 06 - 3 Mar - Ravières - Paris - Lille - Orchies - Tournai - Bruxelles Midi - Almere

Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 06 - 3 Mar - Ravières - Paris - Lille - Orchies - Tournai - Bruxelles Midi - Almere

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  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

    And while Paris Nord is often associated with nasty train boarding experiences, it is an amazing station if you have time and calm to appreciate it

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    @jon "Monsieur vous ne pouvez pas attendre sur les quais!" is my typical gare du nord experience

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    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

      @hopla CAF‘s Media Distancia EMUs in Spain are horrid. I hope they install better suspension!

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      @jon oh they better... Or else: no 200 kph.

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      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

        And while Paris Nord is often associated with nasty train boarding experiences, it is an amazing station if you have time and calm to appreciate it

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        #CrossBorderRail 2026 Spring Tour Train 14 of 80
        TGV 7025
        10:12 Paris Nord - Lille Flandres 11:18
        SNCF Voyageurs

        Train type: Alstom TGV Duplex, 8 short double deck carriages, 2 power cars
        ⚡️ (25kV ac)
        🚲: ⛔️
        🦽: ✅ (step free, then lift down inside)
        🛜: ✅
        🍽️: ⛔️ (there is a dining car but it’s not open)
        🧳: 😐 (it’s empty today, so it’s passable)
        🧽: 🙂
        Interrail: 😐 (needs compulsory reservation, costs at least €10)

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        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

          And while Paris Nord is often associated with nasty train boarding experiences, it is an amazing station if you have time and calm to appreciate it

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          @jon that is a very very big if.

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          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

            #CrossBorderRail 2026 Spring Tour Train 14 of 80
            TGV 7025
            10:12 Paris Nord - Lille Flandres 11:18
            SNCF Voyageurs

            Train type: Alstom TGV Duplex, 8 short double deck carriages, 2 power cars
            ⚡️ (25kV ac)
            🚲: ⛔️
            🦽: ✅ (step free, then lift down inside)
            🛜: ✅
            🍽️: ⛔️ (there is a dining car but it’s not open)
            🧳: 😐 (it’s empty today, so it’s passable)
            🧽: 🙂
            Interrail: 😐 (needs compulsory reservation, costs at least €10)

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            TGV 7025
            10:12 Paris Nord - Lille Flandres 11:18

            Distance: 225.2km
            Average speed: 205km/h

            1 stops:
            Lille Flandres

            This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#8/50.097679/2.449951

            #CrossBorderRail

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            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

              TGV 7025
              10:12 Paris Nord - Lille Flandres 11:18

              Distance: 225.2km
              Average speed: 205km/h

              1 stops:
              Lille Flandres

              This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#8/50.097679/2.449951

              #CrossBorderRail

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              I meanwhile wondered if SNCF Connect has finally put their problem of their lack of international booking right... so I tried Paris - Mainz

              Type Mainz into DB and it gives you Mainz Hbf as the first option in the search

              SNCF Connect calls Mainz Hbf "Mayence (Mainz)" but drops Hbf. Put Hbf and it gives you Hbf (Ersatzverkehr). What? 😳

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              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                I meanwhile wondered if SNCF Connect has finally put their problem of their lack of international booking right... so I tried Paris - Mainz

                Type Mainz into DB and it gives you Mainz Hbf as the first option in the search

                SNCF Connect calls Mainz Hbf "Mayence (Mainz)" but drops Hbf. Put Hbf and it gives you Hbf (Ersatzverkehr). What? 😳

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                And if you put Mainz and choose "Ville" from the list, not "Gare", it gives you routes to Mainz Römisches Theater, changing at Bad Munster am Stein

                Obviously 🤷‍♂️

                I presume because Römisches Theater is closest to the geographical centre of Mainz?

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                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                  Made it across Paris in one piece

                  The city might have solid bike infrastructure, but damn many cyclists here are annoying, or have death wishes, or both

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                  @jon Fact.

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                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                    And if you put Mainz and choose "Ville" from the list, not "Gare", it gives you routes to Mainz Römisches Theater, changing at Bad Munster am Stein

                    Obviously 🤷‍♂️

                    I presume because Römisches Theater is closest to the geographical centre of Mainz?

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                    But weirdly it does give prices... and even sort of Sparpreis. But with €15 price difference.

                    Why?

                    How?

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                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                      I meanwhile wondered if SNCF Connect has finally put their problem of their lack of international booking right... so I tried Paris - Mainz

                      Type Mainz into DB and it gives you Mainz Hbf as the first option in the search

                      SNCF Connect calls Mainz Hbf "Mayence (Mainz)" but drops Hbf. Put Hbf and it gives you Hbf (Ersatzverkehr). What? 😳

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                      @jon also Perl somehow belongs to the Région Occitanie now according to SNCF Connect

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                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                        But weirdly it does give prices... and even sort of Sparpreis. But with €15 price difference.

                        Why?

                        How?

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                        @jon And if you hit "continue" will DB actually offer you a ticket?

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                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                          I meanwhile wondered if SNCF Connect has finally put their problem of their lack of international booking right... so I tried Paris - Mainz

                          Type Mainz into DB and it gives you Mainz Hbf as the first option in the search

                          SNCF Connect calls Mainz Hbf "Mayence (Mainz)" but drops Hbf. Put Hbf and it gives you Hbf (Ersatzverkehr). What? 😳

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                          @jon In this case I think it's not entirely SNCFs fault as DB also uses the "Ersatzverkehr" name in their system for the bus stop. Which is a bit odd and regulary confuses some passengers.

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                          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                            But weirdly it does give prices... and even sort of Sparpreis. But with €15 price difference.

                            Why?

                            How?

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                            Oh and this is an interesting one

                            SNCF Connect *will* give me a 13 min connection in Mannheim, off the France-Germany ICE

                            DB will NOT give me that connection, I presume because they know that Dobrindt's illegal non- #Schengen compliant border controls will almost certainly mean the connection is missed in Mannheim. DB puts you on a later ICE in Frankfurt instead

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                            • f09fa681@digitalcourage.socialF f09fa681@digitalcourage.social

                              @jon And if you hit "continue" will DB actually offer you a ticket?

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                              @f09fa681 Of course. Why would it not?

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                              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                And if you put Mainz and choose "Ville" from the list, not "Gare", it gives you routes to Mainz Römisches Theater, changing at Bad Munster am Stein

                                Obviously 🤷‍♂️

                                I presume because Römisches Theater is closest to the geographical centre of Mainz?

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                                @jon [eye twitch at their title casing code messing up and capitalising Am]

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                                • onterof@sueden.socialO onterof@sueden.social

                                  @jon In this case I think it's not entirely SNCFs fault as DB also uses the "Ersatzverkehr" name in their system for the bus stop. Which is a bit odd and regulary confuses some passengers.

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                                  @onterof But Hbf, and Hbf Ersatzverkehr would be OK. Station called Mainz (no Hbf) and then Hbf Ersatzverkehr leads to confusion.

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                                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                    But weirdly it does give prices... and even sort of Sparpreis. But with €15 price difference.

                                    Why?

                                    How?

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                                    @jon
                                    Because of different contingents for the international train probably.

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                                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                      Oh and this is an interesting one

                                      SNCF Connect *will* give me a 13 min connection in Mannheim, off the France-Germany ICE

                                      DB will NOT give me that connection, I presume because they know that Dobrindt's illegal non- #Schengen compliant border controls will almost certainly mean the connection is missed in Mannheim. DB puts you on a later ICE in Frankfurt instead

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                                      Also the other day I found a Germany-France case where SNCF would not give me a tight connection in Strasbourg, but DB would

                                      Now here is a case where SNCF will give me a tight connection in Mannheim, and DB will not

                                      Vive la coopération !
                                      Es lebe die Zusammenarbeit!

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                                      • q@glauca.spaceQ q@glauca.space

                                        @jon [eye twitch at their title casing code messing up and capitalising Am]

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                                        @q @jon the loss of the umlaut dots is far more annoying considering the french also got diacretics and shit

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                                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                          Oh and this is an interesting one

                                          SNCF Connect *will* give me a 13 min connection in Mannheim, off the France-Germany ICE

                                          DB will NOT give me that connection, I presume because they know that Dobrindt's illegal non- #Schengen compliant border controls will almost certainly mean the connection is missed in Mannheim. DB puts you on a later ICE in Frankfurt instead

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                                          @jon
                                          Trust DB in this case 🥴

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