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  3. Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 06 - 3 Mar - Ravières - Paris - Lille - Orchies - Tournai - Bruxelles Midi - Almere

Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 06 - 3 Mar - Ravières - Paris - Lille - Orchies - Tournai - Bruxelles Midi - Almere

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  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

    TGV 7025
    10:12 Paris Nord - Lille Flandres 11:18

    Distance: 225.2km
    Average speed: 205km/h

    1 stops:
    Lille Flandres

    This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#8/50.097679/2.449951

    #CrossBorderRail

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    I meanwhile wondered if SNCF Connect has finally put their problem of their lack of international booking right... so I tried Paris - Mainz

    Type Mainz into DB and it gives you Mainz Hbf as the first option in the search

    SNCF Connect calls Mainz Hbf "Mayence (Mainz)" but drops Hbf. Put Hbf and it gives you Hbf (Ersatzverkehr). What? 😳

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    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

      I meanwhile wondered if SNCF Connect has finally put their problem of their lack of international booking right... so I tried Paris - Mainz

      Type Mainz into DB and it gives you Mainz Hbf as the first option in the search

      SNCF Connect calls Mainz Hbf "Mayence (Mainz)" but drops Hbf. Put Hbf and it gives you Hbf (Ersatzverkehr). What? 😳

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      And if you put Mainz and choose "Ville" from the list, not "Gare", it gives you routes to Mainz Römisches Theater, changing at Bad Munster am Stein

      Obviously 🤷‍♂️

      I presume because Römisches Theater is closest to the geographical centre of Mainz?

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      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

        Made it across Paris in one piece

        The city might have solid bike infrastructure, but damn many cyclists here are annoying, or have death wishes, or both

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        #27

        @jon Fact.

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        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

          And if you put Mainz and choose "Ville" from the list, not "Gare", it gives you routes to Mainz Römisches Theater, changing at Bad Munster am Stein

          Obviously 🤷‍♂️

          I presume because Römisches Theater is closest to the geographical centre of Mainz?

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          #28

          But weirdly it does give prices... and even sort of Sparpreis. But with €15 price difference.

          Why?

          How?

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          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

            I meanwhile wondered if SNCF Connect has finally put their problem of their lack of international booking right... so I tried Paris - Mainz

            Type Mainz into DB and it gives you Mainz Hbf as the first option in the search

            SNCF Connect calls Mainz Hbf "Mayence (Mainz)" but drops Hbf. Put Hbf and it gives you Hbf (Ersatzverkehr). What? 😳

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            @jon also Perl somehow belongs to the Région Occitanie now according to SNCF Connect

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            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

              But weirdly it does give prices... and even sort of Sparpreis. But with €15 price difference.

              Why?

              How?

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              @jon And if you hit "continue" will DB actually offer you a ticket?

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              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                I meanwhile wondered if SNCF Connect has finally put their problem of their lack of international booking right... so I tried Paris - Mainz

                Type Mainz into DB and it gives you Mainz Hbf as the first option in the search

                SNCF Connect calls Mainz Hbf "Mayence (Mainz)" but drops Hbf. Put Hbf and it gives you Hbf (Ersatzverkehr). What? 😳

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                @jon In this case I think it's not entirely SNCFs fault as DB also uses the "Ersatzverkehr" name in their system for the bus stop. Which is a bit odd and regulary confuses some passengers.

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                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                  But weirdly it does give prices... and even sort of Sparpreis. But with €15 price difference.

                  Why?

                  How?

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                  #32

                  Oh and this is an interesting one

                  SNCF Connect *will* give me a 13 min connection in Mannheim, off the France-Germany ICE

                  DB will NOT give me that connection, I presume because they know that Dobrindt's illegal non- #Schengen compliant border controls will almost certainly mean the connection is missed in Mannheim. DB puts you on a later ICE in Frankfurt instead

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                  • f09fa681@digitalcourage.socialF f09fa681@digitalcourage.social

                    @jon And if you hit "continue" will DB actually offer you a ticket?

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                    @f09fa681 Of course. Why would it not?

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                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                      And if you put Mainz and choose "Ville" from the list, not "Gare", it gives you routes to Mainz Römisches Theater, changing at Bad Munster am Stein

                      Obviously 🤷‍♂️

                      I presume because Römisches Theater is closest to the geographical centre of Mainz?

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                      @jon [eye twitch at their title casing code messing up and capitalising Am]

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                      • onterof@sueden.socialO onterof@sueden.social

                        @jon In this case I think it's not entirely SNCFs fault as DB also uses the "Ersatzverkehr" name in their system for the bus stop. Which is a bit odd and regulary confuses some passengers.

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                        @onterof But Hbf, and Hbf Ersatzverkehr would be OK. Station called Mainz (no Hbf) and then Hbf Ersatzverkehr leads to confusion.

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                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                          But weirdly it does give prices... and even sort of Sparpreis. But with €15 price difference.

                          Why?

                          How?

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                          @jon
                          Because of different contingents for the international train probably.

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                          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                            Oh and this is an interesting one

                            SNCF Connect *will* give me a 13 min connection in Mannheim, off the France-Germany ICE

                            DB will NOT give me that connection, I presume because they know that Dobrindt's illegal non- #Schengen compliant border controls will almost certainly mean the connection is missed in Mannheim. DB puts you on a later ICE in Frankfurt instead

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                            Also the other day I found a Germany-France case where SNCF would not give me a tight connection in Strasbourg, but DB would

                            Now here is a case where SNCF will give me a tight connection in Mannheim, and DB will not

                            Vive la coopération !
                            Es lebe die Zusammenarbeit!

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                            • q@glauca.spaceQ q@glauca.space

                              @jon [eye twitch at their title casing code messing up and capitalising Am]

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                              @q @jon the loss of the umlaut dots is far more annoying considering the french also got diacretics and shit

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                              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                Oh and this is an interesting one

                                SNCF Connect *will* give me a 13 min connection in Mannheim, off the France-Germany ICE

                                DB will NOT give me that connection, I presume because they know that Dobrindt's illegal non- #Schengen compliant border controls will almost certainly mean the connection is missed in Mannheim. DB puts you on a later ICE in Frankfurt instead

                                Link Preview ImageLink Preview Image
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                                @jon
                                Trust DB in this case 🥴

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                                • 16af93@wetdry.world1 16af93@wetdry.world

                                  @q @jon the loss of the umlaut dots is far more annoying considering the french also got diacretics and shit

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                                  @16af93 @jon oh didn't even see that. gods how do you even manage that, surely everything is UTF-8 these days...

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                                  • 16af93@wetdry.world1 16af93@wetdry.world

                                    @q @jon the loss of the umlaut dots is far more annoying considering the french also got diacretics and shit

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                                    @16af93 @jon oh didn't even see that. gods how do you even manage that, surely everything is UTF-8 these days...

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                                    • _hemmschuh@zug.network_ _hemmschuh@zug.network

                                      @jon
                                      Because of different contingents for the international train probably.

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                                      @_Hemmschuh But what ticket would I then get? Or would I then get 2 PDFs? One for the international bit, one for the German bit?

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                                      • _hemmschuh@zug.network_ _hemmschuh@zug.network

                                        @jon
                                        Trust DB in this case 🥴

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                                        @_Hemmschuh Yes, sadly. But this is... tricky! There is no error shown!

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                                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                          Also the other day I found a Germany-France case where SNCF would not give me a tight connection in Strasbourg, but DB would

                                          Now here is a case where SNCF will give me a tight connection in Mannheim, and DB will not

                                          Vive la coopération !
                                          Es lebe die Zusammenarbeit!

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                                          #44

                                          But back to what I was *trying* to work out, before SNCF Connect's weird takes on German stations confused me...

                                          SNCF *CAN* sell a bunch of connections in Germany again

                                          But it *CANNOT* sell a Paris - Brugge 🇧🇪 or Marseille - Genova 🇮🇹. There it tries to sell me half the journey

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