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  3. Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 06 - 3 Mar - Ravières - Paris - Lille - Orchies - Tournai - Bruxelles Midi - Almere

Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail 2026 Tour Day 06 - 3 Mar - Ravières - Paris - Lille - Orchies - Tournai - Bruxelles Midi - Almere

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  • hopla@zug.networkH hopla@zug.network

    @jon (the design of the Coradia Polyvalent is still Alstom and AFAIK so is the software maintenance, but the assembly and hardware maintenance is contracted to CAF Reichshoffen as part of the Alstom-Bombardier merger deal -the latter having an assembly workshop in Crespin)

    The Régiolis' suspensions are kinda "harder" than those of the AGC, they usually hold rather well very bumpy tracks such as the Bruyères - Arches line (whereas on AGC one can feel sometimes metal hitting metal in the suspensions). That is, as long the air pressure is nominal, the air cushion in good state and the train not overloaded. I'm unaware if there's a difference in design between bimode (+fuel weight) and pure electric in that aspect. I'd need to experience it to judge if that's abnormal noise/movement ^^

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    @hopla Also it must be said that this line ought to be an Intercités really. The Régiolis does a steady 150km/h for long sections here. And it is not really designed as that sort of train...

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      @hopla I am not sure the AGC is much different, or at least not better! Those also rock sideways more!

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      @jon rollercoaster ride at a fraction of the cost of an Europa Park ticket ✨
      That said, I'm thinking of something: "track deformation slow creep": when a train track deteriorates over time but just slow enough so that train drivers doing it daily don't immediately notice something abnormal developing and thus don't report it for the infra operator to go check the geometry with measurement engines outside scheduled audits. (the budget to do any fixing about it is another story)

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        @hopla Also it must be said that this line ought to be an Intercités really. The Régiolis does a steady 150km/h for long sections here. And it is not really designed as that sort of train...

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        @jon the Coradia Liner wouldn't differ much in terms of design on that aspect I guess.. but as newer intercités rolling stock there's Oxygène (entirely CAF design IIRC, I know relatively little about it except it's to be built in Reichshoffen too)

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        • hopla@zug.networkH hopla@zug.network

          @jon the Coradia Liner wouldn't differ much in terms of design on that aspect I guess.. but as newer intercités rolling stock there's Oxygène (entirely CAF design IIRC, I know relatively little about it except it's to be built in Reichshoffen too)

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          @hopla CAF‘s Media Distancia EMUs in Spain are horrid. I hope they install better suspension!

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          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

            Waving metaphorically to @ffeth at Sens

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            Made it across Paris in one piece

            The city might have solid bike infrastructure, but damn many cyclists here are annoying, or have death wishes, or both

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              Made it across Paris in one piece

              The city might have solid bike infrastructure, but damn many cyclists here are annoying, or have death wishes, or both

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              And while Paris Nord is often associated with nasty train boarding experiences, it is an amazing station if you have time and calm to appreciate it

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              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                Made it across Paris in one piece

                The city might have solid bike infrastructure, but damn many cyclists here are annoying, or have death wishes, or both

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                @jon

                C'est vrai!

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                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                  And while Paris Nord is often associated with nasty train boarding experiences, it is an amazing station if you have time and calm to appreciate it

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                  @jon "Monsieur vous ne pouvez pas attendre sur les quais!" is my typical gare du nord experience

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                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                    @hopla CAF‘s Media Distancia EMUs in Spain are horrid. I hope they install better suspension!

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                    @jon oh they better... Or else: no 200 kph.

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                      And while Paris Nord is often associated with nasty train boarding experiences, it is an amazing station if you have time and calm to appreciate it

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                      #CrossBorderRail 2026 Spring Tour Train 14 of 80
                      TGV 7025
                      10:12 Paris Nord - Lille Flandres 11:18
                      SNCF Voyageurs

                      Train type: Alstom TGV Duplex, 8 short double deck carriages, 2 power cars
                      ⚡️ (25kV ac)
                      🚲: ⛔️
                      🦽: ✅ (step free, then lift down inside)
                      🛜: ✅
                      🍽️: ⛔️ (there is a dining car but it’s not open)
                      🧳: 😐 (it’s empty today, so it’s passable)
                      🧽: 🙂
                      Interrail: 😐 (needs compulsory reservation, costs at least €10)

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                        And while Paris Nord is often associated with nasty train boarding experiences, it is an amazing station if you have time and calm to appreciate it

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                        @jon that is a very very big if.

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                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                          #CrossBorderRail 2026 Spring Tour Train 14 of 80
                          TGV 7025
                          10:12 Paris Nord - Lille Flandres 11:18
                          SNCF Voyageurs

                          Train type: Alstom TGV Duplex, 8 short double deck carriages, 2 power cars
                          ⚡️ (25kV ac)
                          🚲: ⛔️
                          🦽: ✅ (step free, then lift down inside)
                          🛜: ✅
                          🍽️: ⛔️ (there is a dining car but it’s not open)
                          🧳: 😐 (it’s empty today, so it’s passable)
                          🧽: 🙂
                          Interrail: 😐 (needs compulsory reservation, costs at least €10)

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                          TGV 7025
                          10:12 Paris Nord - Lille Flandres 11:18

                          Distance: 225.2km
                          Average speed: 205km/h

                          1 stops:
                          Lille Flandres

                          This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#8/50.097679/2.449951

                          #CrossBorderRail

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                            TGV 7025
                            10:12 Paris Nord - Lille Flandres 11:18

                            Distance: 225.2km
                            Average speed: 205km/h

                            1 stops:
                            Lille Flandres

                            This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2026-spring-tour_1361108#8/50.097679/2.449951

                            #CrossBorderRail

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                            I meanwhile wondered if SNCF Connect has finally put their problem of their lack of international booking right... so I tried Paris - Mainz

                            Type Mainz into DB and it gives you Mainz Hbf as the first option in the search

                            SNCF Connect calls Mainz Hbf "Mayence (Mainz)" but drops Hbf. Put Hbf and it gives you Hbf (Ersatzverkehr). What? 😳

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                              I meanwhile wondered if SNCF Connect has finally put their problem of their lack of international booking right... so I tried Paris - Mainz

                              Type Mainz into DB and it gives you Mainz Hbf as the first option in the search

                              SNCF Connect calls Mainz Hbf "Mayence (Mainz)" but drops Hbf. Put Hbf and it gives you Hbf (Ersatzverkehr). What? 😳

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                              And if you put Mainz and choose "Ville" from the list, not "Gare", it gives you routes to Mainz Römisches Theater, changing at Bad Munster am Stein

                              Obviously 🤷‍♂️

                              I presume because Römisches Theater is closest to the geographical centre of Mainz?

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                                Made it across Paris in one piece

                                The city might have solid bike infrastructure, but damn many cyclists here are annoying, or have death wishes, or both

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                                @jon Fact.

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                                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                  And if you put Mainz and choose "Ville" from the list, not "Gare", it gives you routes to Mainz Römisches Theater, changing at Bad Munster am Stein

                                  Obviously 🤷‍♂️

                                  I presume because Römisches Theater is closest to the geographical centre of Mainz?

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                                  But weirdly it does give prices... and even sort of Sparpreis. But with €15 price difference.

                                  Why?

                                  How?

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                                    I meanwhile wondered if SNCF Connect has finally put their problem of their lack of international booking right... so I tried Paris - Mainz

                                    Type Mainz into DB and it gives you Mainz Hbf as the first option in the search

                                    SNCF Connect calls Mainz Hbf "Mayence (Mainz)" but drops Hbf. Put Hbf and it gives you Hbf (Ersatzverkehr). What? 😳

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                                    @jon also Perl somehow belongs to the Région Occitanie now according to SNCF Connect

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                                      But weirdly it does give prices... and even sort of Sparpreis. But with €15 price difference.

                                      Why?

                                      How?

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                                      @jon And if you hit "continue" will DB actually offer you a ticket?

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                                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                        I meanwhile wondered if SNCF Connect has finally put their problem of their lack of international booking right... so I tried Paris - Mainz

                                        Type Mainz into DB and it gives you Mainz Hbf as the first option in the search

                                        SNCF Connect calls Mainz Hbf "Mayence (Mainz)" but drops Hbf. Put Hbf and it gives you Hbf (Ersatzverkehr). What? 😳

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                                        @jon In this case I think it's not entirely SNCFs fault as DB also uses the "Ersatzverkehr" name in their system for the bus stop. Which is a bit odd and regulary confuses some passengers.

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                                          But weirdly it does give prices... and even sort of Sparpreis. But with €15 price difference.

                                          Why?

                                          How?

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                                          Oh and this is an interesting one

                                          SNCF Connect *will* give me a 13 min connection in Mannheim, off the France-Germany ICE

                                          DB will NOT give me that connection, I presume because they know that Dobrindt's illegal non- #Schengen compliant border controls will almost certainly mean the connection is missed in Mannheim. DB puts you on a later ICE in Frankfurt instead

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