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  • mjd@mathstodon.xyzM This user is from outside of this forum
    mjd@mathstodon.xyzM This user is from outside of this forum
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    A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT

    THEREFORE A COMPUTER MUST NEVER BE ALLOWED TO FUCK AROUND

    phooky@hexa.clubP somarasu@masto.hackers.townS d1@autistics.lifeD d6@merveilles.townD novelgazer@infosec.exchangeN 23 Replies Last reply
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    • mjd@mathstodon.xyzM mjd@mathstodon.xyz

      A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT

      THEREFORE A COMPUTER MUST NEVER BE ALLOWED TO FUCK AROUND

      phooky@hexa.clubP This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @mjd the entire premise of modern ai tools is that computers can indeed find out and so they must be permitted total license to fuck around

      manu@freiburg.socialM calmeilles@mstdn.socialC dpflug@hachyderm.ioD 3 Replies Last reply
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      • mjd@mathstodon.xyzM mjd@mathstodon.xyz

        A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT

        THEREFORE A COMPUTER MUST NEVER BE ALLOWED TO FUCK AROUND

        somarasu@masto.hackers.townS This user is from outside of this forum
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        somarasu@masto.hackers.town
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        #3

        @mjd What if *i* were to fuck around and then tell the computer?

        then the computer doesnt fuck around.

        would that work?

        glennseto@mastodon.socialG mjd@mathstodon.xyzM wesdym@mastodon.socialW 3 Replies Last reply
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        • somarasu@masto.hackers.townS somarasu@masto.hackers.town

          @mjd What if *i* were to fuck around and then tell the computer?

          then the computer doesnt fuck around.

          would that work?

          glennseto@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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          @Somarasu @mjd Isn't that just learning to do something new on the computer?

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          • somarasu@masto.hackers.townS somarasu@masto.hackers.town

            @mjd What if *i* were to fuck around and then tell the computer?

            then the computer doesnt fuck around.

            would that work?

            mjd@mathstodon.xyzM This user is from outside of this forum
            mjd@mathstodon.xyzM This user is from outside of this forum
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            @Somarasu Do what you like, kid.

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            • glennseto@mastodon.socialG glennseto@mastodon.social

              @Somarasu @mjd Isn't that just learning to do something new on the computer?

              somarasu@masto.hackers.townS This user is from outside of this forum
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              @glennseto @mjd well yeah, in so many words

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              • mjd@mathstodon.xyzM mjd@mathstodon.xyz

                @Somarasu Do what you like, kid.

                somarasu@masto.hackers.townS This user is from outside of this forum
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                @mjd yessss

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                • somarasu@masto.hackers.townS somarasu@masto.hackers.town

                  @glennseto @mjd well yeah, in so many words

                  glennseto@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @Somarasu @mjd Been doing a lot of that again lately, so your post rang very true to that experience.

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                  • mjd@mathstodon.xyzM mjd@mathstodon.xyz

                    A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT

                    THEREFORE A COMPUTER MUST NEVER BE ALLOWED TO FUCK AROUND

                    d1@autistics.lifeD This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @mjd Agreed, it would violate the symmetry.

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                    • phooky@hexa.clubP phooky@hexa.club

                      @mjd the entire premise of modern ai tools is that computers can indeed find out and so they must be permitted total license to fuck around

                      manu@freiburg.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @phooky

                      In an engineering class, I learned something along the lines of engineering being the opposite of aroundfuckery because it plans, observes and documents.

                      Modern AI tools are stuck in the observation phase, I guess?

                      @mjd

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                      • mjd@mathstodon.xyzM mjd@mathstodon.xyz

                        A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT

                        THEREFORE A COMPUTER MUST NEVER BE ALLOWED TO FUCK AROUND

                        d6@merveilles.townD This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @mjd corollary:

                        A COMPUTER CANNOT GET THE HORNS

                        THEREFORE A COMPUTER MUST NEVER FUCK WITH THE BULL

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                        • mjd@mathstodon.xyzM mjd@mathstodon.xyz

                          A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT

                          THEREFORE A COMPUTER MUST NEVER BE ALLOWED TO FUCK AROUND

                          novelgazer@infosec.exchangeN This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @mjd a gift for you

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                          • mjd@mathstodon.xyzM mjd@mathstodon.xyz

                            A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT

                            THEREFORE A COMPUTER MUST NEVER BE ALLOWED TO FUCK AROUND

                            saltywizard@beige.partyS This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @mjd

                            doesn't seem like orange presidents are doing much finding out despite all of their fucking around.

                            might as well let the computers have at it.

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                            • somarasu@masto.hackers.townS somarasu@masto.hackers.town

                              @mjd What if *i* were to fuck around and then tell the computer?

                              then the computer doesnt fuck around.

                              would that work?

                              wesdym@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @Somarasu As long as YOU find out, then yes.

                              This is the general legal premise around tools used in crimes. If you handle a weapon recklessly, YOU are held responsible for the consequences. The weapon won't be charged or face trial, but its fate instead follows yours.

                              Depending on the user's actions, the computer might be destroyed, but it won't be held legally responsible. And, as it's incapable of experiencing emotion or pain, it never 'finds out', either.

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                              • mjd@mathstodon.xyzM mjd@mathstodon.xyz

                                A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT

                                THEREFORE A COMPUTER MUST NEVER BE ALLOWED TO FUCK AROUND

                                evilstevie@mastod1.ddns.netE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @mjd hahahahaha I can assure you that every deskside/support engineer who hears "oh, it's working now. it always works when you are watching it" has an internal monologue along the lines of 'please stop working so I can disassemble or replace you' aimed at that bit of kit. the computer knows it might find out and that is why it pauses in its fuckery at that time.

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                                • phooky@hexa.clubP phooky@hexa.club

                                  @mjd the entire premise of modern ai tools is that computers can indeed find out and so they must be permitted total license to fuck around

                                  calmeilles@mstdn.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @phooky @mjd

                                  But it's a false premise.

                                  As we are finding out.

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                                  • mjd@mathstodon.xyzM mjd@mathstodon.xyz

                                    A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT

                                    THEREFORE A COMPUTER MUST NEVER BE ALLOWED TO FUCK AROUND

                                    pigworker@types.plP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @mjd Bravo!

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                                    • mjd@mathstodon.xyzM mjd@mathstodon.xyz

                                      A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT

                                      THEREFORE A COMPUTER MUST NEVER BE ALLOWED TO FUCK AROUND

                                      lazarou@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @mjd #ButlerianJihad

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                                      • evilstevie@mastod1.ddns.netE evilstevie@mastod1.ddns.net

                                        @mjd hahahahaha I can assure you that every deskside/support engineer who hears "oh, it's working now. it always works when you are watching it" has an internal monologue along the lines of 'please stop working so I can disassemble or replace you' aimed at that bit of kit. the computer knows it might find out and that is why it pauses in its fuckery at that time.

                                        meltedcheese@c.imM This user is from outside of this forum
                                        meltedcheese@c.imM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @evilstevie @mjd That’s dark, but relatable.

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                                        • mjd@mathstodon.xyzM mjd@mathstodon.xyz

                                          A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT

                                          THEREFORE A COMPUTER MUST NEVER BE ALLOWED TO FUCK AROUND

                                          shnooflebear@curly.catS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @mjd Well, "a computer you do not own". Because the one right here - oh that thing is about to find the hell out if it starts fucking around.

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