A COMPUTER CANNOT FIND OUT

[phooky@hexa.club]

@mjd the entire premise of modern ai tools is that computers can indeed find out and so they must be permitted total license to fuck around

[somarasu@masto.hackers.town]

@mjd What if *i* were to fuck around and then tell the computer?

then the computer doesnt fuck around.

would that work?

[glennseto@mastodon.social]

@Somarasu @mjd Isn't that just learning to do something new on the computer?

[mjd@mathstodon.xyz]

@Somarasu Do what you like, kid.

[somarasu@masto.hackers.town]

@glennseto @mjd well yeah, in so many words

[somarasu@masto.hackers.town]

@mjd yessss

[glennseto@mastodon.social]

@Somarasu @mjd Been doing a lot of that again lately, so your post rang very true to that experience.

[d1@autistics.life]

@mjd Agreed, it would violate the symmetry.

[manu@freiburg.social]

@phooky

In an engineering class, I learned something along the lines of engineering being the opposite of aroundfuckery because it plans, observes and documents.

Modern AI tools are stuck in the observation phase, I guess?

@mjd

[d6@merveilles.town]

@mjd corollary:

A COMPUTER CANNOT GET THE HORNS

THEREFORE A COMPUTER MUST NEVER FUCK WITH THE BULL

[novelgazer@infosec.exchange]

@mjd a gift for you

[saltywizard@beige.party]

@mjd

doesn't seem like orange presidents are doing much finding out despite all of their fucking around.

might as well let the computers have at it.

[wesdym@mastodon.social]

@Somarasu As long as YOU find out, then yes.

This is the general legal premise around tools used in crimes. If you handle a weapon recklessly, YOU are held responsible for the consequences. The weapon won't be charged or face trial, but its fate instead follows yours.

Depending on the user's actions, the computer might be destroyed, but it won't be held legally responsible. And, as it's incapable of experiencing emotion or pain, it never 'finds out', either.

[evilstevie@mastod1.ddns.net]

@mjd hahahahaha I can assure you that every deskside/support engineer who hears "oh, it's working now. it always works when you are watching it" has an internal monologue along the lines of 'please stop working so I can disassemble or replace you' aimed at that bit of kit. the computer knows it might find out and that is why it pauses in its fuckery at that time.

[calmeilles@mstdn.social]

@phooky @mjd

But it's a false premise.

As we are finding out.

[pigworker@types.pl]

@mjd Bravo!

[lazarou@mastodon.social]

@mjd #ButlerianJihad

[meltedcheese@c.im]

@evilstevie @mjd That’s dark, but relatable.

[shnooflebear@curly.cat]

@mjd Well, "a computer you do not own". Because the one right here - oh that thing is about to find the hell out if it starts fucking around.

[evilstevie@mastod1.ddns.net]

@meltedcheese @mjd when called upon for tech support I carry a Leatherman, full set o' bits and the hope that this time I'll get to actually see the problem. rarely do.

oddly that seems to work for software too.